Attorney Taitz battles Attorneys General - Discovery to Begin!

The Post & Mail ^ | September 12, 2009 | John Charlton

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Attorney Taitz battles Attorney Generals — Discovery to Begin!

September 12, 2009 by John Charlton

IN TWO SEPARATE CASES, AGs WORK TO FORESTALL

by John Charlton

(Sept. 12, 2009: 9:45 PM Eastern DLST) — Just minutes ago Niel Turner issued a public announcement, based on his personal communications with Attorney Orly Taitz, who is presently in Washington, D.C.; regarding Taitz’s two cases, Captain Pamela Barnett vs. Obama, and Captain Connie Rhodes, M.D., vs. McDonald.

In the more recent case, Rhodes vs. McDonald, in GA Federal Court, which regards Capt. Rhodes request for an emergency stay of her deployment to Afghanistan, on the grounds that Barack Hussein Obama has not demonstrated his lawful holding of the office of U.S. President, Attorney Taitz disputed the claim of the government attorneys, that Capt. Rhodes “failed to show in Court”, according to Turner.

Turner declared: “The Government attorneys lied to Judge Land in court (in Columbus, GA) on Friday when they told the judge that the Flight Surgeon, Capt. Rhodes (who is the plaintiff refusing to obey orders for deployment until they can be proved to be ‘lawful orders’) , just failed to show in Court, when they knew that she was ordered to remain on base back in Kansas.”

During the hearing on Friday, in this case, Attorney Taitz rebutted this false claim, by producing “a notarized statement from the plaintiff (that had been scanned and then emailed to her), stating the facts of the matter.” It was “perjury, pure and simple,” says Turner; ” And, needless to say, the Judge was ‘PISSED’ (Orly’s words – in English, and in Russian, I believe).”

Attorney Taitz will be back in Court, on behalf of Capt. Connie Rhodes, in the Columbus Federal Court House, at noon, on Monday.

In the meantime, Dr. Orly Taitz will return to California, to begin discovery in the case, Barnett et al. vs. Obama et al.

The Post & Email had previously reported widespread speculation that discovery would commence in the principal action. At that time Mr. Turner could not verify exactly for The Post & Email the status of the matter. Now Turner, after speaking with Taitz has clarified, declaring that discovery will begin.

Orly is proceeding with ‘DISCOVERY’ based on:

a. Judge Carter’s words in Court to proceed in a timely and expeditious manner;

b. the Government’s (Cardona) Application for Stay: “This court should stay … with the exception of any discovery which Plaintiffs can demonstrate …that they need in order to counter said motion (to dismiss).” It is arguable that the original hospital birth certificate is absolutely essential to demonstrate that dismissal is not appropriate in this case;

c. and the actual COURT ORDER by Judge David O. Carter setting a Scheduling Conference for October 5, 2009 (CASE NO. SA CV09-0082-DOC (ANx) in the Case of BARNETT et al v. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA et al., especially lines 3 – 6 (page 2): … the Court encourages the parties to begin discovery before the Scheduling Conference. The parties shall comply fully with the letter and spirit of Rule 26(a) and thereby obtain and produce most of what would be produced in the early stages of discovery, because at the Scheduling Conference the Court will impose tight deadlines to complete discovery.

“Let the subpoenas and the servings begin,” concludes Turner.

[EternalVigilance]

You’re right.

[txhurl]

The only thing I’d question, were I suspicious of that BC is the birth length of 18 inches. With 0’s height, I’d expect 20 inches.

I would be curious about the length between shoulders - 6 inches? unless 0 was born quite premature.

[Non-Sequitur]

Is Turner a State Atty General for Georgia?

Georgia's Attorney General is a gentleman named Thurbert Baker. Niel Turner is some blogger.

[Non-Sequitur]

The only thing I’d question, were I suspicious of that BC is the birth length of 18 inches.

I'd be suspicious about the date being in mm/dd/yyyy format. European norm is dd/mm/yyyy. That and the fact that at the time Kenya was a colony and not a protectorate.

[sneakers]

bc bump!

[Diogenesis]

[txhurl]

I’ll bet you my frname that that’s his actual footprint.

You can see from footage he has a pigeon-toe tendency and a wide splay at the toes.

[bunster]

Thank you N-S. Read the thing 3 times and couldn’t figure who he was — Atty Gen or someone’s spokesperson — and then it mentions Orly being in DC — and that really confused me. So in other words this post carries no weight at all. My apologies to Thurbert for not knowing who AG of Georgia was (smile).

[deport]

Not sure what the following means per se but it is from Judge Carter's orders from Sept. 8, 2009. Somewhere I read or at least I thought I read that the discovery to be carried out is pretty much perfunctory in order to get the basics out of the way and or started. I maybe total in error on that remembrance.

http://ia301520.us.archive.org/2/items/gov.uscourts.cacd.435591/gov.uscourts.cacd.435591.58.0.pdf
snip p. 6 bottom.
iv. Discovery
The Court indicated at oral argument that it would consider whether discovery
matters should continue to be handled by Magistrate Judge Nakazato. The Court finds that,
since the Court and Judge Nakazato are closely communicating and coordinating in this case, the
continued handling of discovery matters by Judge Nakazato is appropriate.

[oldfart]

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t ‘discovery’ entail serving subpoenas on third parties too? In this case the State of Hawaii could be so served thus “cutting out” any involvement of and by Obama. Again, correct me if I’m wrong, but compelling Obama to furnish records that could impeach him would be treading pretty close to the edge of the 5th Amendmant protection from self-incrimination.

Not that I’d care too much. Frankly, I’d like to see the SOB hauled out of the White House by the scruff of his neck, painted liberally with tar, then rolled in feathers. After that maybe we could find a suitable punishment for him.

[RetSignman]

[Federal Court House, at noon, on Monday.]

MONDAY..MONDAY...MONDAY, everything is going to break on MONDAY, fer cryin’ out loud, why not pick a Tuesday once in awhile.

[spacejunkie01]

I ran into Orly in DC, right in the middle of the march, and she said that the judge called for early discovery.

Please, GOD, let this be the case!!!

[Non-Sequitur]

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t ‘discovery’ entail serving subpoenas on third parties too?

For some information. But I don't see Carter approving subpoenas before ruling on the motion to dismiss. Basically at this point discovery means that Taitz has to show the defense what she's got on hand and the defense has to do the same.

If I were Taitz I would worry less about discovery and more about my response to the motion to dismiss, which is due in to the court a week from tomorrow. If she misses that deadline I don't see Carter cutting her any more slack. He's gone above and beyond a number of times already.

[Deepest End]

[oldfart]

Thanks for the explanation. Regardless of what any of us think we’ll just have to wait for the wheels to grind. I’d sure like to be a fly on the wall when Obambi finds out his records are in the hands of Taitz and the court. It might happen...

[Non-Sequitur]

I’d sure like to be a fly on the wall when Obambi finds out his records are in the hands of Taitz and the court. It might happen...

Every other suit to date has been dismissed due to lack of standing. Why should we expect this one to escape that same fate?

[oldfart]

There is that very real possibility but that particular card is usually played early in the proceedings. My understanding of the MTD filed by the government is that they were once again flying the “standing” flag since it had always worked so well before. Judge Carter could still rule as all the other judges have but his declaration to try the case on its merits gives me hope that he won’t do that. I guess we’ll find out on October 5th.

In thge other case on the east coast the judge was reported to be “angry” or “perturbed” at the way the government has handled their side of the case.

All this brings to mind the Randy Weaver trial in which the government did everything it could to hinder discovery by the defense. In the end, the defense didn’t even call a witness, relying instead on the obvious underhandedness of the government lawyers. In that case, Randy Weaver won. We can always hope for lightning to strike twice.

On a connecting issue: Id sure like to have Orly’s ‘Frequent Flyer Miles.’ She’s been back and forth across the country enough to have been in all 57 states.

[Non-Sequitur]

There is that very real possibility but that particular card is usually played early in the proceedings. My understanding of the MTD filed by the government is that they were once again flying the “standing” flag since it had always worked so well before.

Shouldn't the fact that it has worked so well before tell you something?

Judge Carter could still rule as all the other judges have but his declaration to try the case on its merits gives me hope that he won’t do that.

If the case has no standing then it has no merit, does it?

Taitz has twisted that quote over and over again. Judge Carter made that comment after he could have quite properly dismissed the case back July when Taitz hadn't properly served the defense. Judge Carter then said that the case would be decided - not tried - on its merits. That is no guarantee that this will ever get to trial.

In thge other case on the east coast the judge was reported to be “angry” or “perturbed” at the way the government has handled their side of the case.

According to reports I've read, Judge Carter has found dealing with Taitz to be extremely exasperating.

On a connecting issue: Id sure like to have Orly’s ‘Frequent Flyer Miles.’ She’s been back and forth across the country enough to have been in all 57 states.

And as I said earlier, rather than showing up in D.C. for the cameras maybe she should be working on her response to the defense motion to dismiss. It's due a week from tomorrow, and if she misses that deadline then that's it.

[oldfart]

You and I obviously look at the same data and arrive at different conclusions. I watch the proceedings (via the net) and hope for an outcome that will toss the SOB out on his ear. You (as far as I can discern) seem to be more interested in seeing all the “t’s” dotted and the “I’s” crossed. While it is important that all the proper steps be taken I think it is far more important that we get to the bottom of the issue. I hope and believe that Judge Carter will try the case on its merits. I could very well be disappointed in the end but we’ll just have to wait and see.

BTW, do you just sit around all day and night pecking at the keyboard? I have an excuse since I’m retired and mildly disabled... I don’t have much of anything else to do.

[danamco]

As I understand it, the discovery is only the verification of the first Kenyan B.C., that one on the plaited tablecloth and relating to an Australian copy???