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Where do AP, ABC, NBC, CNN, and FOX get their DC912 crowd estimates from?
bvw | 13 September 2009 | bvw

Posted on 09/13/2009 6:42:01 AM PDT by bvw

Where do AP, ABC, NBC, CNN, and FOX get their DC912 crowd estimates from?

IMO The same place I do. And I say 2.5 million. Based on anecdotal twitter feed and the same camera shots everybody has seen. In other words a rough guess, but not uninformed.

True science requires that method and data both be described, so that the result can be validated.


TOPICS: Politics; Reference; Science
KEYWORDS: 912; 912project; dc912; marchondc; teaparty
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1 posted on 09/13/2009 6:42:02 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Thin air.


2 posted on 09/13/2009 6:45:19 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: bvw

I saw one helicopter circling overhead yesterday. There were no news choppers, just two trucks, FNC and CNN.


3 posted on 09/13/2009 6:47:59 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Audit the FED NOW!)
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To: bvw

These figures are pulled out of their a$$.


4 posted on 09/13/2009 6:57:02 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

what also is not counted are the mini rallies all across the usa. im a realtor. and i seen 3 dif mini rallies across nw indiana yesterday. it was so inspiring!!!!!! the funny thing is people are so mad the media and the dummicrats got another thing coming in 2010!! lets not stop now!


5 posted on 09/13/2009 6:57:52 AM PDT by remaxagnt (`)
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To: bvw
Just for grins, I recall at the time of the innauguration, someone in the media spoke with a "crowd expert" and asked how size was estimated. The expert said that you have to know the square footage of the area covered by the crowd, and then you have to calculate that every 3-foot by 3-foot square would hold 6 people, and you just do the math ...

The media guy commented that they had tried to get 6 people to stand within a 3-foot square but that this hadn't worked.

Bottomline: size estimates are used to show what they want to show.

6 posted on 09/13/2009 6:58:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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Yep. That’s why, imo, we should be using the 2.5 million figure in DC and 3 million nationwide.


7 posted on 09/13/2009 7:01:23 AM PDT by bvw
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I was just discussing the exact same thing with my father yesterday. You have a huge event in our nations capitol and Fox (the most powerful cable network on earth) could pony up a copter let alone a few decent aerial shots?

Some little pissant local network in Knoxville Tenn. can have a traffic chopper calling the situation daily and Fox can’t dedicate a chopper for this????

Embarrassing.


8 posted on 09/13/2009 7:01:29 AM PDT by traderrob6
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Oh, and of course in the meantime coming up with real numbers from photos and other sources. Personally, I’d like to see the turnstile counts in the metro yesterday, and compare them to other Septembers and other major rallies.


9 posted on 09/13/2009 7:03:56 AM PDT by bvw
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ACORN supplies them with the information.


10 posted on 09/13/2009 7:08:10 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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As we marched passed the CNN truck, we all chanted “We Love Fox News”! ~~~~snicker~~~~


11 posted on 09/13/2009 7:09:36 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Audit the FED NOW!)
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I know it doesnt seem to make sense, but it is based on statistical measures. for example, when you are standing on a crowd there are always people walking around. While it would be difficult to have six people standing on a square yard of ground, it DOES make more sense when people are meandering around.

Generally speaking, when I look at crowd size, I tend to just compare one crowd to another. For example, how did this compare to an inauguration, or the “million man”march, or the Civil rights march in the sixties.


12 posted on 09/13/2009 7:11:26 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ein Volk, Ein Riech, Ein Ein.)
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To: traderrob6
You have a huge event in our nations capitol and Fox (the most powerful cable network on earth) could pony up a copter let alone a few decent aerial shots?

I do wonder if Homeland Security, FAA, may have discouraged/prevented some flights.....Just a guess.....

13 posted on 09/13/2009 7:14:40 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: bvw

Same place as the wishful-thinking two million figure: thin air.


14 posted on 09/13/2009 7:15:11 AM PDT by GoldStandard
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There were very clearly 1.5 million protesters in DC. No matter what the biased MSM say. They would not even show themselves in public.


15 posted on 09/13/2009 7:15:33 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama installs a fifth column inside the US Government. Why?)
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The chopper was probably from the White House sneaking a look.

As an attendee to the protest, I saw no MSM in attendance. They were in hiding; now they are in denial.

16 posted on 09/13/2009 7:17:44 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama installs a fifth column inside the US Government. Why?)
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To: traderrob6
Some little pissant local network in Knoxville Tenn. can have a traffic chopper calling the situation daily and Fox can’t dedicate a chopper for this????

Well actually DC is the one city where it's pretty hard to get clearance to fly anything.

17 posted on 09/13/2009 7:17:57 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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The truth is that there were so many people that NO BODY can say it was a failure of any sort. I think the politicians are stunned. I think the new people are stunned. The fact is they can ignore us on the news but they can’t ignore us at the ballot box. I wish Sarah Palin had been invited to speak. There would have been an earth quake in DC.


18 posted on 09/13/2009 7:18:25 AM PDT by politicalmerc (If Birthers are so silly, then why not show the BC and put them to shame?)
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hey, everyone, there is a great pic of the crowd on lucianne.com......taken from a rooftop nearby........crowd looks MASSIVE....


19 posted on 09/13/2009 7:20:43 AM PDT by tioga ("You lie!" Joe Wilson 9-9-09)
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There were very clearly 1.5 million protesters in DC.

Not even close to 1.5m. Not even close to 150k. I know everyone's pumped up about this, but we need to be realistic about this or we will be laughed at like we laughed at the claims of the organizers of the million man march. I was there and it was the equivalent of a full large football stadium. Perhaps 70,000.

20 posted on 09/13/2009 7:25:06 AM PDT by KevinB (Those who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either being made.)
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