Posted on 09/11/2009 7:41:14 AM PDT by Alaphiah123
“Na na na na na you have no Standing” has been the legal argument that President Barry Soetoro, his attorneys and now the attorneys of the U.S. Justice Department, have used to have dozens eligibility suits dismissed throughout the country.
As legally profound and convincing as that argument is on September 8, 2009 in a California Federal Court, Judge of the Central District David Carter has for the first time since this issue has been brought up has scheduled a case to be heard on its merits. Image that someone in black robes has finally said okay let’s get to the bottom of this controversy once and for all. That ought to make all of the anti-birthiers happy.
The first case was filed before Barry Soetoro received the Democrat’s nomination to be the Democrat candidate for the presidency. It was filed in Philadelphia by attorney Philip Berg a Hillary Clinton supporter who feared that if Sen. Soetoro received the Democrat Nomination Republicans would be able to use the fact that there was were questions surrounding the birth of Sen. Soetoro however Sen. John McCain never raised those questions. Democrats in the DNC all knew of the questions regarding a lack of a birth certificate because they were served notice by Mr. Berg in fact all of the major players knew but no one did anything about it for whatever reason(s)...
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EXACTLY, mr. stevie. But if the goal of this case is to get some evidence submitted to a court room ... the rooters here have succeeded in that limited goal.
Now the rooters can print out that Kenyan BC and mail it around the country noting that it is a piece of evidence from a federal case. Perhaps this counts for something. I am not expecting impeachment hearings to interrupt regularly scheduled programming during this NFL season.
I sure hope so!
But (a) in case you haven't noticed, a fellow who is clearly not a "Natural Born Citizen," has somehow taken the Presidency. I think that is serious enough to warrant a question or two, perhaps to be answered by legal clarification.
(b) The Birthers are, IMHO, patriots. The tragedy is that many of their efforts are in vain, and more than likely, will remain that way. And yes, for some Birthers, the quest for the BC has taken on aspects of the search for the Holy Grail.
On the whole, I would say this religious movement is far less dangerous to the country than the religion of the President and his handlers, which is Marxism.
I rest my case.
Too much "Matlock" with a dose of "Perry Mason", and not enough actual law school.
well, thank all the Patriots for their patiotism. On this 9/11. I am off to the Tea Party express, I hope.
I played golf with 2 guys recently. One guy, Bob, was very enthusiastic and Bill was ambivalent. We added up the scores, Bob = 118, Bill 81. Enthusiasm only goes so far. Bob needs to learn to play golf.
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Dr. Orly Taitz has two good news items that she is very busy with right now:
1. Judge Carter is “giving her expedited discovery — immediately.”
Filed & Entered: 09/10/2009 Minutes of In Chambers Order/Directive — no proceeding held.
Filed & Entered: 09/10/2009 Ex Parte Application for Order re Discovery Matter
2. Judge Land will allow her to present before the court in Georgia.
Dr. Taitz will be appearing before Judge Land at the Federal Building in Columbus, GA at 2:00 pm today (9/11/09). She would like as many military supporters to be there as possible.
And, here is the Order setting the schedule for Keyes v Obama. http://www.scribd.com/doc/19548434/KEYES-v-OBAMA-57-ORDER-SETTING-SCHEDULING-CONFERENCE-FOR-1052009-at-830-AM
Taitz was three for three Tuesday.
From Dr. Orly’s Facebook page:
“I just got word from Ms. Sweeden, clerk for District Court Judge for the Middle District of GA. We were granted an emergency hearing for Captain Connie Rhodes, MD, flight surgeon, who is scheduled to be shipped to Iraq day after tomorrow on September the 12th. Captain Rhodes states that she is willing to go to Iraq, as long as she knows that the orders going down the chain of command are lawful orders.”
“I need Georgia patriots and members of the military at Ft. Benning in the courtroom tomorrow, please support the fight of the Courageous Captain Connie Rhodes, MD to uphold her oath of office and Constitution of this country against Kenyan-Indonesian Usurper and his cronies in the government, in the top brass of the military, in the US attorneys office and in the media. It is up to you — whether your Constitution will (post ended there).”
Click here http://www.scribd.com/doc/19547316/Keyes-v-Obama-Motions-Hearing-8SEP-2009
for a “Summary of Hearing in Barnett V Obama.” It’s about 10 pages.
Here is a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmYm9TGrKPM
of the Sept. 8, 2009, news conference after Federal Judge David O. Carter set trial dates & hearings, temporarily denying U.S. Attorney’s last minute stealth motion to dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction and standing.
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This great American is trying to keep his file up and running on a social security income.
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My contention is that the long form holds information concerning his legitimacy to hold the office of President or some information that is horribly personally embarrassing or politically damaging.
I have always wondered if his mother had him established as an Indonesian Citizen and renounced his American Citizenship. This would cast doubt on his ability to be President even if he was born in Hawaii as I think he probably was. SOMETHING STINKS!
Generally speaking, I find Orly’s incompetence amusing.
I have to say, though, I find her constant requests for supporters to pack the courtroom and her recent request to have people actually call Judge Carter outrageous. She is not an activist or a performance artist.
Unless it shows that his father was an American Citizen, it can't really tell us much. We already know that he is ineligible.
...horribly personally embarrassing or politically damaging....
Could be.
if his mother had him established as an Indonesian Citizen and renounced his American Citizenship
Can't be done. If you are a citizen, or a dual; citizen, that's it. It can't be renounced for you. But, you do have to re-affirm your US citizenship upon reaching your majority
It's not coming out of his pocket, is it?
There are a couple of reasons I can think of but in the end it's all speculation. The long and short of it is Obama doesn't leagally have to produce any more than he has, and he doesn't seem to want to humor those who insist that he do.
My contention is that the long form holds information concerning his legitimacy to hold the office of President or some information that is horribly personally embarrassing or politically damaging.
Leaving aside the embarassing part since that isn't applicable to the question at hand, assuming he does have a birth certificate in Hawaii then what on it could compromise his qualifications for the presidency?
I have always wondered if his mother had him established as an Indonesian Citizen and renounced his American Citizenship.
That's not possible. Natural-born citizenship is a birthright that by law can only be given up by the individual, and only when that peson is an adult. It cannot be forfited on their behalf by anyone, be it parent or whoever. And even if Obama did do that, it wouldn't be reflected on his birth certificate.
SOMETHING STINKS!
A whole lot stinks about Obama, particularly in his policy areas. But the Birther controversy is, in my opinion, the least of it.
Palin was probably scolded for being too aggressive by McCain. It will be interesting to see what she can do without those hinderances. I really like what I see so far
Bob, aka Dr. Taitz, is learning by doing and by the kind instruction of many judges, who, although they have had to rule against her, have by and large been happy to subtly and not so subtly, point her down more appropriate legal paths.
Dr. Taitz often has her own ideas of how to play, and has not always been a willing pupil. But she is getting better at it.
She is still a better Russian dentist than an American lawyer ... but, her last few rounds have shown tremendous improvement. Good luck to her!
There are a couple of reasons I can think of but in the end it's all speculation. The long and short of it is Obama doesn't legally have to produce any more than he has, and he doesn't seem to want to humor those who insist that he do.
A whole lot stinks about Obama, particularly in his policy areas. But the Birther controversy is, in my opinion, the least of it.
Well that's a glass of ice water in the face during a long marathon. But that really is about it.
Standing is one of several grounds raised in the motions to dismiss. It has not yet been resolved.
Absolutely.
Soon to be punked by a judge who sees through their BS argument.
Alan Keyes was a candidate for president, on the ballot in what, 27 states? Methinks he has standing.
This is going to be fun...
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Fellow Freepers: If you have ears to hear, listen to this, please. We will not win if the Constitution is weakened. We must have the foundation for preventing even worse future events. Laws must be passed that are permanent, reaffirming and unconditional as to who is a "natural born citizen."
We are one in our passion. We all want see his muslim a(behind)ss nailed to the wall. Are we not weakening our cause each time we take the BC route in court? The BC is a long-shot! Let's do it the right way. Much better to do it for the sake of future generations who will reap the rewards or else face the possibility of the death of what we hold so dear.
It will only resolve the issue of his birthplace, and perhaps legally document who his father was. After that, if he was not born in the US, case is pretty much over. But if he was born in the US, then someone, probably the Supreme Court, will have to decide if having a non-citizen father disqualifies one from being a natural born citizen, under Article II section 1 of the Constitution. I believe it does, but it would be a question of first impression for the SCOTUS.
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