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USD Clamor; The USD won’t go quietly
Commodity News Center ^ | 9/9/09 | Chris

Posted on 09/09/2009 2:26:12 PM PDT by h20skier66

As gold tries to break and hold $1000 it brings up the larger question of how long the USD has to last. At the very least, after the markets digest the debate over deflation which is USD bullish, the question becomes: how long can the USD hold together before it falls in value drastically.

Big drumbeat out there

I am sure that you know about China vigorously complaining about the abuse of the USD, most loudly complaining about the Fed's quantitative easing (buying any and all bad assets from banks and putting them on their balance sheet - called monetization, which is printing the money to replace the losses). The Fed had to back off this Summer from that plan and significantly reduce those policies, said in large part due to China's vigorous complaints.

No, we cannot

Or, in other words, the Fed is finding it cannot just print its way out of its problems, it cannot just ‘drop money from helicopters', Bernanke does not have the latitude he thought he would have when he made that infamous statement, the bond markets won't tolerate that without crashing the USD and skyrocketing interest rates. Skyrocketing interest rates would totally stop any remaining credit growth, which will strangle the remaining life out of the economy.

If you agree with that, then the prognosis for the US and Western economies will be a second round of credit deflation, and must result in much lower stock markets.

(Excerpt) Read more at commoditynewscenter.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: china; debt; usd; yuan

1 posted on 09/09/2009 2:26:13 PM PDT by h20skier66
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To: h20skier66

x


2 posted on 09/09/2009 2:30:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Deflation makes our money worth more. It also makes it harder to get credit because interest rates tend to zero out. Besides, who wants to loan you a dollar today if it’s worth more tomorrow. Better to just keep those dollars in hand.


3 posted on 09/09/2009 2:31:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: h20skier66

Excerpt:

But a recent development just out, that the UN stated that a new world currency not dependent on the USD must be created:

“In a radical report, the UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) has said the system of currencies and capital rules which binds the world economy is not working properly, and was largely responsible for the financial and economic crises.

It added that the present system, under which the dollar acts as the world’s reserve currency , should be subject to a wholesale reconsideration. Although a number of countries, including China and Russia, have suggested replacing the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, the UNCTAD report is the first time a major multinational institution has posited such a suggestion...” Telegraph.co.uk


4 posted on 09/09/2009 2:32:53 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Doesn't matter what the UN wants. The world reserve currency gets picked by economic forces beyond the control of any one nation or group of nations.

The UN and China can issue a new currency and peasants throughout the world will continue to stuff counterfeit $100 bills in their mattresses.

5 posted on 09/09/2009 2:39:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: h20skier66

What will happen when 0bama runs out of political capital?

Will he just print more?


6 posted on 09/09/2009 2:43:02 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 231 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: h20skier66

Simple solution.
Tie the USD to the international price of Gold.


7 posted on 09/09/2009 3:03:18 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: h20skier66

The dollar is deflated domestically, because...yes, we’re not buying! :-) It’s inflating internationally. So we’ll do better with domestic production, as soon as we’re willing to do real work again.


8 posted on 09/09/2009 3:11:09 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: jongaltsr

And how much might that be?? I’d feel sorry for anyone who had gold fillings in their teeth, they’d be targets.


9 posted on 09/09/2009 3:23:00 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: h20skier66

Tie the USD to the price of Ammo.


10 posted on 09/09/2009 3:24:17 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: h20skier66

But when it goes, it will go violently.


11 posted on 09/09/2009 3:57:30 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 50... 49... 48...)
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To: Freedom4US
And how much might that be?? I’d feel sorry for anyone who had gold fillings in their teeth, they’d be targets.

What kind of paranoid type response is that?
Gold Fillings are an alloy which is partially gold, silver, copper and other metals. It costs more money to separate the metals than would be worth the effort.
The gold standard exists today and very few are ever killed for their fillings and that is usually an afterthought from ignorant criminals who don't realize that it is more effort than it is worth.
When we were taken off the gold standard was when we started having our monetary problems (Thank you President Roosevelt).
Gold lends itself to stability because it is a world wide commodity.
12 posted on 09/09/2009 6:45:43 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Tie the USD to the price of Ammo.....
I like that idea a lot...
It would cause the value of the USD to go up depending on how much we bought and the more we bought the more the politicians would reconsider a lot of their votes.

13 posted on 09/09/2009 6:49:01 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: jongaltsr

I’m jus’ sayin’. Paranoia got nothin to do with it. Do the math — If gold is revalued at eleventy zillion, that ain’t gonna work. Maybe there are less expensive alternatives for fillings? Gold isn’t “essential” in many industrial applications, although it has a few where it is about perfect. Platinum is used for catalysts, Silver is a better conductor of electricity, etc.


14 posted on 09/10/2009 9:57:21 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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