Ping!
PING AND BOOKMARK!
PING WHY EYE!
How will this actually change anything?
bttt
“If we allow persons born in the US of alien fathers to be President of the US then Kim Jong Il, Osama Bin Laden and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are all eligible to have their direct offspring become President of the United States and Commander In Chief of our Armed Forces.”
The DNC is looking into drafting procedures even as we speak.
I wonder what laws were signed by President Arthur. Were any states admitted to the Union during his term? Maybe they will try to invalidate that admission . . .
(I’m in my own little world, I know.)
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Most definitely bookmarked.
BTTT
Doesn’t this also mean that all those “anchor” babies are not anchored at all?
THAT would be a nice outcome of this study and report.
Has someone notified Dr. Orly Taitz about this?
The principle asserted by Collins, which essentially considers citizenship at birth to be solely patrilineal (except in the case of an illegitimate child), is archaic, having been superseded several times by successive US statutes. The same holds for Collins' outright dismissal of any notion of dual (or multiple) citizenship at birth; the fact is that American law has since recognized that some persons are categorized as such. And his idea that descendants of Chinese immigrants born in the US can never be citizens at birth was reversed by a SCOTUS decision in the 1890s which granted citizenship to such persons based upon the 14th Amendment.
The specific subject of POTUS eligibility is not even addressed in Collins' article, as it did not seem to be a concern of his, despite the fact that Arthur - the president, coincidentally, at the time the article was written - would seemingly not qualify for the presidency under Collins' doctrine, given what we now know about Arthur's father's British citizenship status at the time of Arthur's birth.
Ping.
Yup.
He is not a “natural born citizen”. His father WAS NOT an American Citizen.
All the argument about where he was born is kind of fluff and irrelevant. If it could be proved he was born in Kenya, that solidifies the case.
But he could have been born on the White House steps - and he still would not be a “Natural born Citizen”.
Thank you very much for posting this. Despite the charges of nuts and conspiracy theorists, this topic has been very well covered on the FR. This being only the most recent example. If they had 1/10th the discussion in the media a year ago, this would have been settled before the election.
Bookmarked for when I fix my computer... :(
This is from Leo Donofrio’s web site? Looks like Leo is still in the game.
If their offspring were born in the United States, then they are Natural Born Citizens and eligible for the Presidency no matter how loathsome their fathers might have been.
Most importantly, however, they have to receive more votes than their opponents.
Was Obama’s Mother a US Citizen At The Time of Obama’s Birth?
We know for a fact that Obama’s father was a UKC citizen and never became a US citizen and was never permanently domiciled in the US. As to Obama’s mother, everyone has always assumed she was a US citizen at the time of Obama Jr.’s birth.
But it’s very possible Stanley Ann Obama was not a US citizen by the time Obama was born.
The British Nationality Act of 1948 established Barack Obama Sr. as a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies. But as to the relevance of the BNA 1948 to Obama’s mother, please take a look at Section “6(2)”:
(2) Subject to the provisions of subsection (3) of this section, a woman who has been married to a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies shall be entitled, on making application therefor to the Secretary of State in the prescribed manner, and, if she is a British protected person or an alien, on taking an oath of allegiance in the form specified in the First Schedule to this Act, to be registered as a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies, whether or not she is of full age and capacity.
How do we know Stanley Ann Obama didn’t avail herself - after she was married, but before Obama Jr. was born - of the BNA 1948 by registering to be a UKC citizen? ... But back in 1961, registering as a UKC citizen and taking the oath listed above would have provided ample evidence of an intent to renounce US citizenship. Therefore, at the time of his birth, Obama Jr. would have been born of two British citizen parents.
I do not make any claim to know whether Obama’s mother did become a registered UKC citizen after marrying Obama Sr. But it’s certainly fair to point out that, like so many other things about him we are not allowed to know, we also do not know whether Obama was born of two British parents. And I see no reason why we should assume his mother didn’t register as a UKC citizen considering her noted preference for living abroad.
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