Posted on 08/24/2009 10:29:17 AM PDT by foutsc
If they can do it to Mr. Bary, they can do it to you
ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - The fate of a 17-year-old girl who ran away from her Ohio home because she says she feared punishment for converting from Islam to Christianity could be decided in an Orlando courtroom Friday.My first thought was, this one's easy.The teenager disappeared last month and police used phone and computer records to track her to the Rev. Blake Lorenz, pastor of Orlando, Fla.-based Global Revolution Church, who she had met through an online Facebook prayer group.
Send her back to her family and prosecute Reverend Blake Lorenz for luring a minor child.
Yes, I know about the Muslim husband who cut his wife's head off in New York, as well as the Muslim father in Georgia who strangled his daughter to death because of his twisted, 7th century sense of honor. We also have the Texas "honor" killings.Still in question is whether this young lady, Rifqa Bary, is in that kind of danger. He parents found out awhile back, and they were mad as hell, I'm sure. But she's still alive, which says something in her father's defense.
Too many things don't smell right. 17 year old girls are famous for being drama queens, even more so than Muslims are for decapitations. I saw the
YouTube video and all I kept thinking was, she's saying exactly what those church people want to hear. And this whole episode is quite an advertisement and money boost for the pastor who used the internet to lure her to Florida. Striking a blow against Islam is just icing on the cake. Could this be merely a cultural and generational clash gone viral? I'd like to know more about what went on back in Ohio. How are her grades? Are boyfriends or some other teen-parent conflict behind this? Any parent can tell you how a simple matter can spin out of control when angry parents and emotional teens are involved. Religious conviction in the mix just makes the situation hotter. Her Christian faith could be sincere and her parents could be really mad, but that doesn't prove her dad will kill her.Hillary Clinton and Marian Wright Edelman Would be Proud
The family unit is sacrosanct, and unless lawbreaking is going on, no judge or pastor or anyone else has any business poking their nose in. This is a fundamental freedom that conservative Christians usually stand up for.
I guess if you agreed with preemptive war, it's not much of a stretch to support preemptive justice. It's all well and good until Uncle Sam decides to bust up your Jesus Camp and liberate your brain-washed kids from your home and your authority.
To those who are convinced this is a black and white case, ask yourself this question: If this were a 17-year old girl from a fundamentalist Christian family running into the arms of an imam, would you still be sticking up for the girl and the mosque?
Once again, you can't use the honor killing excuse. If such arguments were valid, the Branch Davidian episode could be used to outlaw Christians having custody of their children. It remains to be seen if this girl's life is really in danger. I trust the good judge in Florida will sort that out in due time,One thing's for certain: Reverend Blake Lorenz must be prosecuted under Florida law for Luring a Minor.
ABC News Breitbart Bailaman YouTube - Rifqa Bary
Pfft, much todo about nothing. Emancipate her and be done with it.
I guess when she gets her throat slit, you will say that fate is not as bad as going to a church.
YOu want a wake up call on Islam and the Muslims,? They will kill her. Is not America standing up for life, all life anymore? Check out the site atlasshrugs.com or frontpagemag.com to stay up to date on how Islam is perverting America’s laws and minds! This young girl needs protected, from her parents, and from his ties in Ohio, and Obama.
That won’t be enough. She needs protection from her father and her brothers!
You’re nuts.
At 17, the girl is old enough to have a say in her custody. True, teenage girls ARE drama queens. But this is serious enough a charge that great care should be taken before returning her to the custody of her parents.
Logic isn’t your strong point I see.
This one is easy: Defend the young lady against Islamic barbarians! I watched the video and believe her. The first step towards Sharia Law in the USA would be to send her back to her Muslim parents in order to be murdered.
Speaking of honor - American honor is at stake here. If we allow a defenseless young woman to be killed on the altar of leftist political correctness, we have failed as a nation.
“Once again, you can’t use the honor killing excuse.”
Good try, but that dog don’t hunt.
Your atttempt to remove from the table the core issue of the girl’s situation is fitting for an Imam.
I am not saying you are either a closet Muzzie, nor in the pay of one. I am saying that your tactic is one they would like.
Yes, goobers in gooberment agencies can’t control/raise children. Yes, siad goobers will only stop when they meet resistance, ultimately backed with the knowledge that the citizenry will resort to force if necessary (2nd Amendment, and all that good stuff).
But, this girl left her home state and fled to another state where she wishes to remain.
Got State’s Rights?
LOL! I love the lead-in line to the "BUT".
She is apostate now, and it is not only the father but the whole community that is duty bound to kill her in order to avenge the slight and defend the honor of Islam.
B. She can carry a gun in Florida
C. She should get a job
No judge in his right mind is going to send this girl home unless he’s 150% sure nothing is going to happen to her. If something happens, he doesn’t want it to happen on his watch.
The Ohio authorities don’t seem to be eager to get her back home either.
Maybe she’s lying, maybe not. Who wants to take the chance with these crazy people?
No, they can’t do it do me. This sort of thing only needs to apply to girls that come from homes run by savage cults. I don’t belong to a savage cult, so... there’s that.
Oh, and before you say it: yes, it’s a double standard. I’m OK with that.
>>But she’s still alive, which says something in her father’s defense.<<
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Wow, is this how we now measure the ROP?
Father doesn’t kill daughter = father is a nice guy.
I know... Just send her back. If nothing happens to her, then no harm, no foul. If she’s killed, well, let’s just remember that one culture is equivalent to another, no biggie.
Mark
Your logic is very skewed.
This is Floriduh... I have 2 names for you. Elian Gonzolez and Terri Shiavo.
Mark
You want to send her back to this?
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On several occasions friends of Rifqa would bring her down to the school counselor because of bruises on her legs and her arms, beatings suffered at the hands of her father and brother (sounds like Islam Said). The middle school, in a serious dereliction of duty, did not report these beatings to child welfare services. Beatings were random, violent, unprovoked. Take, for example, when Rifqa and her father Mohammad were driving in the car. He would force her to wear the hijab, which she hated. In her discomfort she would slouch down, embarrassed, and her father would haul off and sock her in the face so that she never forgot to sit up straight in her costume. The beatings were regular and so much a part of the landscape of Rifqa’s life, she became inured to them, just like Amina and Sarah and Aqsa and every “honor” victim.
Rifqa: “He took that laptop and waved it in the air and he was about to beat me with it, and he said, “If you have this Jesus in your heart, you’re dead to me. You’re not my daughter.” And I refused to speak but he said, “I will kill you. Tell me the truth.” In these words, bad words, cuss words. So I knew that I had to get away”
Nuts!!!
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