Schumer Says "We Will Have a Public Option"; Hatch Says It Would "Bankrupt the Country" - Video

Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | August 23, 2009 | BrianinMO

[Federalist Patriot]

Here is video of GOP Sen. Orrin Hatch and Democrat Sen. Charles Schumer duking it out over ObamaCare today on Meet the Press. Schumer flatly said that "We will have a Public Option." It is clearly a non-nogiatible to him and many of the Democrats. Orrin Hatch said it makes no sense to destroy the Health Care system working for 85% of Americans to cover the 15% who may not currently have coverage. Hatch maintains there are other ways to cover those who don't have Health Care by using subsidies for them, but leaving the current system in place. Hatch bluntly said he would "never" support a public option because it would "bankrupt the country." . . . . (Watch Video)

[Shady]

Chuck-U-Schumer living up to that moniker. What a putz.

[Oldpuppymax]

Please Orrin, just shut up. You are the type of spineless, sell-out weasel who will spend the next weeks LOOKING for ways to betray the American people.

[justkate]

I wish someone would take a moment to tell BOTH these nincompoops OUR COUNTRY IS ALREADY BANKRUPT.

And we have numbnuts like them to thank.

[Natural Law]

Shumer says the President and Dems want a bi-partisan bill, but insist that it be their way or the highway with no GOP input and no Dem concessions.......

[TigersEye]

Now that Schumer has weighed in it should be clear how bad Health Care Reform is for America.

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I oppose Health Care Reform (HCR) because it is a direct assault on individual liberties. I think that is its main purpose.

HCR is not just about rationing and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of all individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist basic human right to health care spreads throughout the legal and political system like a virus.

Congressman Anthony Weiner says that health care is not a commodity. If health care is not a commodity then doctors and nurses are not free and sovereign citizens. If health care is a right then health care workers are slaves to that right who must serve it. No health care worker could refuse to provide their services, for any reason, because that would violate the patient's basic human right to health care.

That means that health care providers have no individual rights. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set their fees, their hours or change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is provided by the government to all not protected by the government as something possessed by each person. It is also a state right because it supersedes the individual rights of others when the two come into conflict.

It isn't stated in any of the bills that a patient's rights to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights are always adjudicated in the courts. The legislation simply establishes the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the patient's collective right to health care.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it is superior to an individual right. Fascist because it is overseen by one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the true possessor of this collective right and the administrator and enforcer of it as well.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of the entire Health Care Reform legislation the House and Senate have put forth. Consider the setting up of community watch dogs to monitor various health parameters of citizens in the Senate version of the bill. Look at pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS

Even the citizens themselves will be subject to state set regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the human right of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the state's control over its health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights?

Health Care is a Liberty Issue Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights (An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)

[ExTexasRedhead]

Enjoy and please pass around.

An 11-year old with more brains than anyone in Congress and some truth from a relative of George Patton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQGRf2wo2_w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHieqM1hKsg

[ExTexasRedhead]

Chucky needs Prozac to help with his delusions of being God or King.

[TigersEye]

Can you imagine how Schmucky’s head would swell if he got some actual adulation like Zer0 does? It would quickly overtake the expanding galaxies of the universe. Scientists would have to reclassify the Big Bang as the Slow Creep theory.

[mowowie]

Schumer is such a frigging Gas Bag Clown.

How does he sleep at night?
How does he look in the mirror.
What planet is he from?

[The Wizard]

chucky cheese is and always has been an asshole...

[canuck_conservative]

Orrin Hatch said it makes no sense to destroy the Health Care system working for 85% of Americans to cover the 15% who may not currently have coverage.

At least some Republicans get it, now if only they would say it louder.

[Doc Savage]

Hatch just come out of a coma? We ARE Bankrupt!!!

[SunkenCiv]

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[kabar]

You are exactly correct. We are the world’s biggest debtor and the future looks very grim indeed. Our existing entitlement programs represent an almost $60 trillion unfunded liability and they start going bust in a decade. We have lived beyond our means for decades and now the chickens are coming home to roost. Obamacare and cap and tax will just make our misery worse by an order of magnitude of ten.