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OBAMA KNEW HE WASN’T ELIGIBLE FOR POTUS
Give Me Liberty ^ | 8/12/09 | Lynn Dartez

Posted on 08/12/2009 5:27:31 PM PDT by pissant

If one were to look at the activity on Capitol Hill during the campaign, there would be no question in their minds that both McCain and Obama were sweating the “natural born citizen” issue.

How do we arrive at that conclusion? We take McCain’s ingrained, glib advice and “Look at the record, my friends“.

Doing just that, we find that back on February 28, 2008, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a bill to the Senate for consideration. That bill was known as S. 2678: Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act. The bill was co-sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), and Sen. Thomas Coburn (R-OK).

Bill S. 2678 attempted to change article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a “natural born citizen” and hence; the entitlement to run for President of the United States. This bill met the same fate that similar attempts to change the Constitution have in the past. Attempts such as The Natural Born Citizen Act were known to have failed and the text scrubbed from the internet, with only a shadow-cached copy left, that only the most curious public can find.

Sen. McCaskill, her co-sponsors, fellow colleagues and legal counsel, contend that the Constitution is ambiguous in article II, section 1 and requires clarification. But does it? According to the framers and such drafters as John Bingham, we find the definition to be quite clear:

I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen… . . – John Bingham in the United States House on March 9, 1866

From the days of James Madison to the present, the courts have held that the amendment process be justiciable in accordance with its constitutionality and not self-serving or political. But is that what happened here? Again, we must go to the record.

Within only five short weeks after Senate Bill 2678 faded from the floor, we find Sen. Claire McCaskill back again, making another attempt with Senate Resolution 511. On April 10, 2008, she introduced a secondary proposal in the form of a non-binding resolution, recognizing John McCain as a “natural born citizen” in defiance of the Constitution. Curiously, it contained the same identical co-sponsors, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

ABCNews.com reported:

“With questions – however serious – about whether Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is eligible to run for president since he was born outside U.S. borders on an American Naval base, Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo. today introduced a non-binding resolution expressing the sense of the U.S. Senate that McCain qualifies as a “natural born Citizen,” as specified in the Constitution and eligible for the highest office in the land.

Co-sponsors include Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Barack Obama, D-Illinois; Leahy said he anticipates it will pass unanimously.”

One has to wonder — what dire urgency could there possibly have been in persisting with trying to legislate a candidate into being a “natural born citizen”? Certainly providing a birth certificate and reading the Constitution would be more than sufficient. Why did these candidates and their wishful nominees go to such lengths in the Senate when obviously, they had more pressing matters to attend to? And why were there two Senators co-sponsoring such an issue, twice, who were in direct competition with John McCain in the 2008 election?

One answer is that looking at John McCain’s long-form birth certificate reveals he was not a natural born citizen and Barack Obama hasn’t submitted his long-form at all. John McCain was born in an “unincorporated territory”, held by the courts to be not part of the United States for constitutional purposes. Barack Obama has submitted only a Certification of Live Birth, but Hawaii law will certify a live birth using that document for births that occurred even outside of the country. Furthermore, Barack Obama’s father was Kenyan and never an American citizen. Since the status of citizenship occurs at birth, this makes Barack Obama a citizen if born in Hawaii, but not a natural born citizen. One must have two citizen parents, at the time of birth, and be born on U.S. soil, to be deemed a natural born citizen and be declared eligible for the presidency. The Senate, for all their trouble, cannot legislate a person’s born status. It happens at birth, according to the law.

While Senate Bill 2678 fell to the wayside, Senate Resolution 511 was passed on April 30, 2008 as a non-binding resolution. However, S.R. 511 is not a law, but rather, a unanimous opinion. Technically, it means absolutely nothing what they’ve written as it’s not a law, nor did the matter reach the House for review. It’s a stepping-stone in the larger scheme of things that haven’t happened yet; the push to change our Constitution.

World Net Daily reported on November 13, 2008:

More than a half-dozen legal challenges have been filed in federal and state courts demanding President-elect Barack Obama’s decertification from ballots or seeking to halt elector meetings, claiming he has failed to prove his U.S. citizenship status.

An Obama campaign spokeswoman told WND the complaints are unfounded.

“All I can tell you is that it is just pure garbage,” she said. “There have been several lawsuits, but they have been dismissed.”

Perhaps someone should have informed Obama’s spokeswoman that many of these cases have not been dismissed at all, rather they are mounting, and her statements are in fact, pure “garbage”.

Then perhaps someone may prompt an answer from the Obama spokespeople as to why they were entertaining the thought of fiddling with the United States Constitution back in February and April of THIS YEAR? Perhaps because it was in the best interest of Sen. Obama.

Then what of Sen. Claire McCaskill? What possible interest could she have had in these proceedings and leading the charge with her proposals? Was it a bonafide Constitutional issue of judicial importance, or rather a political one?

Digging further into the record we find that according to Wikki and subsequent footnotes therein:

“In January 2008, Claire McCaskill decided to endorse Senator Barack Obama in his campaign for the Democratic nomination for the presidential elections of 2008, making her one of the first senators to do so. She has been one of the most visible faces for his campaign.[14] McCaskill’s support was crucial to Obama’s narrow victory in the Missouri primary in February, 2008. She had been frequently mentioned as a possible vice presidential choice of Senator Obama in the 2008 run for the White House…”

So what we see is a definite political motive being dragged into the Senate for the purposes of legitimizing the 2008 candidates. But if these candidates were legitimate already, there would obviously be no reason for these proceedings.

So political was the motive of McCaskill, even Missouri’s Governor, Matt Blunt revealed that Sen. McCaskill was involved in the “abusive use of Missouri Law Enforcement“. This was dubbed as the “Truth Squad” during the election campaign by the media. The Truth Squad was comprised of Missouri officials and attorneys who set up shop on the streets of Missouri and threatened the public with criminal penalties and lawsuits if they engaged in critical speech against Sen. Obama. The Obama campaign also issued cease and desist letters to media station managers who carried advertisers who were unfriendly towards Barack Obama, namely, the NRA. Citizen outrage prompted this response from Governor Blunt:

“Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.

What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.”

Considering these facts and the judicial record, there is every reason to believe that Sen. McCaskill had no interest in resolving Sen. McCain’s eligibility, but Sen. Obama’s long-term. She manipulated the Senate and then threatened the media and the public thereafter, politically motivated at the prospect of becoming Obama’s Vice-Presidential pick. But it didn’t stop there.

Chairman Patrick J. Leahy entered into the Senate record a legal analysis of two high-powered attorneys hired by Sen. McCain – Theodore Olson and Laurence Tribe - both of whom are extremely politically active and biased, and attached that opinion to S.R. 511.

So controversial was that legal opinion, that it prompted a rebuttal by Professor Gabriel J. Chin of The University of Arizona, James E. Rogers College of Law, in a discussion paper #08-14 entitled, Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President. Professor Chin points out clearly where Tribe-Olson sought to draw out implied theories in the law, which in reality, are simply not there and in fact have been decided by the courts already, in opposition to the suggestions offered by Tribe-Olson. Simply put, the attorneys hired by Sen. McCain attempt to fit the law into their agenda with contrived implications. Professor Chin brings the law back into focus, requiring no implied theories.

Legalities aside, in anticipation of the feared “Fairness Doctrine”, the whole of the main stream media has since acquiesced to the intimidation tactics of the Obama campaign and paraded the non-binding resolution known as S.R. 511 to the public with unfactual foolishness. S.R. 511 is neither a constitutional amendment nor legally binding in any way. Yet the media caved to political pressure and reported it to the public as Chairman Leahy dictated, giving the illusion to the pubic that said resolution was binding to the 2008 election. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

The public responded, initially by way of lawsuits contesting the eligiblity of not only John McCain, but Barack Obama and Roger Calero as well, citing them all, with equal disqualifying merit, as being constitutionally ineligible to run for President of the United States. Later, netizens of the internet caught wind of the court actions and responded with their own explosion of blogs, forums, websites, chatrooms, emails, etc. In an attempt to quell the discord, the main stream media offered personalities such as Thomas Goldstein which only served to infuriate the public further. The public saw such maneuvers as deceitful and an attempt to embarrass the now educated public.

However, the greater proof is in the activity which originated in the Senate in early 2008 which was hidden from the public, that sought to change what our representatives knew to be unconstitutional from the start. The public really needs to look no further than this activity, for it speaks to the heart of the deals that went on beyond the Senate doors. Rather than trust the preservation model our founding forefathers wrote into our Constitution, these respresentatives, beholden of the public trust, saw fit to manipulate the clauses contained therein, for the sole benefit of their own political self-interests.

Perhaps our representatives, the United States Supreme Court and the main stream media would be interested in reflecting on these records and then start answering truthfully the questions which have so far been ignored. The public has been promised transparency, but to date has only been dealt scoffing, deceitful rhetoric, if they choose to address it at all.

While the public has been patient and eduring, the questions remain and refuse to be dismissed. We expect them to be answered, preferrably prior to January 20, 2009.

We the people, deserve an answer!


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To: MHGinTN

A baby picture..LOL...that is the only picture I’ve EVER seen which shows a bit of a resemblance...NO OTHERS.....he looks more like gramps...the younger pictures of SR also have looks of JR...


61 posted on 08/12/2009 7:21:37 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: MHGinTN

Great comparison. Do you have a picture of BHO, Sr. to put beside these two to demonstrate how UNLIKE the two Obamas look? I’d like to see BHO, Sr. on one side of the baby pic and this Frank Marshall Davis on the other with the caption: “Who’s Yo Daddy”?


62 posted on 08/12/2009 7:24:55 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: RegulatorCountry

It does NOT matter!
The United States Congress has the power to write the laws, concerning citizenship.
At the time that John McCain was born, the law made John McCain a citizen at birth.
John McCain IS a Natural Born Citizen.

Yes, I call the article itself into question.

I am on very solid legal and historical ground, in doing so.

If this makes it to court, I believe my opinion will prevail.

http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html

“Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship By a Child Born Abroad

Birth Abroad to Two U.S. Citizen Parents in Wedlock: A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). One of the parents MUST have resided in the U.S. prior to the child’s birth. No specific period of time for such prior residence is required.
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.
Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Father: A child born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen father may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 301(g) INA, as made applicable by Section 309(a) INA provided:
1) a blood relationship between the applicant and the father is established by clear and convincing evidence;
2) the father had the nationality of the United States at the time of the applicant’s birth;
3) the father (unless deceased) has agreed in writing to provide financial support for the person until the applicant reaches the age of 18 years, and
4) while the person is under the age of 18 years —
A) applicant is legitimated under the law of their residence or domicile,
B) father acknowledges paternity of the person in writing under oath, or
C) the paternity of the applicant is established by adjudication court.
Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother: A child born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 301(g) INA, as made applicable by Section 309(c) INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child’s birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.”


63 posted on 08/12/2009 7:25:10 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: shield

IIRC, the ealry few months of a baby’s life after birth they resemble the father awnd father’s relatives more than the morhter’s, but bones develop quickly to take on more of the materal family appearance, facially. If you were to look at early childhood pictures of Frank Davis, I would bet he and barack/barry bear striking resemblance.


64 posted on 08/12/2009 7:27:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: FrdmLvr

I see what I can find ... BBL


65 posted on 08/12/2009 7:28:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Vendome

More like quisling treachery!


66 posted on 08/12/2009 7:30:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: pissant

If he is Davis son...then why are we wasting our time with a Kenyan birth? I would have agreed with you until I saw a post on the long thread of a link to pictures of Sr as a young man. I was surprised of his build...long legs...hands...they looked like the punk to me. I’ll go find them and post them on this thread...


67 posted on 08/12/2009 7:33:27 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Kansas58
The United States Congress has the power to write the laws, concerning citizenship.

You're mistaken, Kansas58. The Constitution specifically limits Congress to the role of naturalization, as far as statutory law concerning citizenship is concerned.

At the time of John McCain's birth, in 1936, it was even questionabl, whether he was born a citizen of the US. In 1937, a year after McCain's birth, a statute was enacted that helped him somewhat, but his citizenship was murky right up to 1952, when McCain was 16 years old. At that point, he became unquestionably a US citizen.

68 posted on 08/12/2009 7:35:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping and DUH!


69 posted on 08/12/2009 7:37:18 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MHGinTN; BP2
If I recall correctly, this item was brought up during a debate between Alan Keyes and Obama in the Illinois Senatorial race. Keyes challenged his citizenship and Obama demurred.
70 posted on 08/12/2009 7:37:26 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: shield

Pray tell what features in Sr. that you see in Jr. Do you wear glasses and did you have them on when you looked at the photos? You do know Sr. was short, right? And black as the ace of spades......and had a very round face.


71 posted on 08/12/2009 7:39:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: MHGinTN

WELL DONE!!!!!!!!!! Point made! He looks nothing like Sr.


72 posted on 08/12/2009 7:39:57 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: shield

That’s OK. I’ve seen them all multiple times.

Why waste the time? To get to the truth. And show him to be the lying SOS he is.


73 posted on 08/12/2009 7:40:05 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

No, there isn’t. Not a single feature. Either Sr. has the weakest genes ever or he isn’t his father. I’ll post some Sr. pics.


74 posted on 08/12/2009 7:41:20 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: shield

Post your *younger* pics of Sr. and show us the resemblance.


75 posted on 08/12/2009 7:42:43 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: library user; devolve; potlatch; y'all

** Or Ann T. Christ. **

- - - - - -

Did Jesus Reveal The Name Of The Anti Christ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK_zh-X21f0


76 posted on 08/12/2009 7:43:15 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: mojitojoe
Of course, he was very black. BO Jr. is half white...that doesn't count. Actually, BO jr looks like commie thug gramps. [BTW, My Dad was tall 6'1", and my brother is 5'8" takes after my Mom's Dad.]



77 posted on 08/12/2009 7:51:06 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: mojitojoe

What I noticed with SR...was his hands...looked like Jr’s to me.


78 posted on 08/12/2009 7:53:14 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: mel
How did McCaskill win in the great state of Missouri?

After midnight delivery of "votes" from St Louis and Kansas City...

79 posted on 08/12/2009 7:55:08 PM PDT by lrslattery
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To: Kansas58

You can not make a retroactive law.


80 posted on 08/12/2009 8:01:32 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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