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OBAMA KNEW HE WASN’T ELIGIBLE FOR POTUS
Give Me Liberty ^ | 8/12/09 | Lynn Dartez

Posted on 08/12/2009 5:27:31 PM PDT by pissant

If one were to look at the activity on Capitol Hill during the campaign, there would be no question in their minds that both McCain and Obama were sweating the “natural born citizen” issue.

How do we arrive at that conclusion? We take McCain’s ingrained, glib advice and “Look at the record, my friends“.

Doing just that, we find that back on February 28, 2008, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a bill to the Senate for consideration. That bill was known as S. 2678: Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act. The bill was co-sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), and Sen. Thomas Coburn (R-OK).

Bill S. 2678 attempted to change article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a “natural born citizen” and hence; the entitlement to run for President of the United States. This bill met the same fate that similar attempts to change the Constitution have in the past. Attempts such as The Natural Born Citizen Act were known to have failed and the text scrubbed from the internet, with only a shadow-cached copy left, that only the most curious public can find.

Sen. McCaskill, her co-sponsors, fellow colleagues and legal counsel, contend that the Constitution is ambiguous in article II, section 1 and requires clarification. But does it? According to the framers and such drafters as John Bingham, we find the definition to be quite clear:

I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen… . . – John Bingham in the United States House on March 9, 1866

From the days of James Madison to the present, the courts have held that the amendment process be justiciable in accordance with its constitutionality and not self-serving or political. But is that what happened here? Again, we must go to the record.

Within only five short weeks after Senate Bill 2678 faded from the floor, we find Sen. Claire McCaskill back again, making another attempt with Senate Resolution 511. On April 10, 2008, she introduced a secondary proposal in the form of a non-binding resolution, recognizing John McCain as a “natural born citizen” in defiance of the Constitution. Curiously, it contained the same identical co-sponsors, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

ABCNews.com reported:

“With questions – however serious – about whether Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is eligible to run for president since he was born outside U.S. borders on an American Naval base, Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo. today introduced a non-binding resolution expressing the sense of the U.S. Senate that McCain qualifies as a “natural born Citizen,” as specified in the Constitution and eligible for the highest office in the land.

Co-sponsors include Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Barack Obama, D-Illinois; Leahy said he anticipates it will pass unanimously.”

One has to wonder — what dire urgency could there possibly have been in persisting with trying to legislate a candidate into being a “natural born citizen”? Certainly providing a birth certificate and reading the Constitution would be more than sufficient. Why did these candidates and their wishful nominees go to such lengths in the Senate when obviously, they had more pressing matters to attend to? And why were there two Senators co-sponsoring such an issue, twice, who were in direct competition with John McCain in the 2008 election?

One answer is that looking at John McCain’s long-form birth certificate reveals he was not a natural born citizen and Barack Obama hasn’t submitted his long-form at all. John McCain was born in an “unincorporated territory”, held by the courts to be not part of the United States for constitutional purposes. Barack Obama has submitted only a Certification of Live Birth, but Hawaii law will certify a live birth using that document for births that occurred even outside of the country. Furthermore, Barack Obama’s father was Kenyan and never an American citizen. Since the status of citizenship occurs at birth, this makes Barack Obama a citizen if born in Hawaii, but not a natural born citizen. One must have two citizen parents, at the time of birth, and be born on U.S. soil, to be deemed a natural born citizen and be declared eligible for the presidency. The Senate, for all their trouble, cannot legislate a person’s born status. It happens at birth, according to the law.

While Senate Bill 2678 fell to the wayside, Senate Resolution 511 was passed on April 30, 2008 as a non-binding resolution. However, S.R. 511 is not a law, but rather, a unanimous opinion. Technically, it means absolutely nothing what they’ve written as it’s not a law, nor did the matter reach the House for review. It’s a stepping-stone in the larger scheme of things that haven’t happened yet; the push to change our Constitution.

World Net Daily reported on November 13, 2008:

More than a half-dozen legal challenges have been filed in federal and state courts demanding President-elect Barack Obama’s decertification from ballots or seeking to halt elector meetings, claiming he has failed to prove his U.S. citizenship status.

An Obama campaign spokeswoman told WND the complaints are unfounded.

“All I can tell you is that it is just pure garbage,” she said. “There have been several lawsuits, but they have been dismissed.”

Perhaps someone should have informed Obama’s spokeswoman that many of these cases have not been dismissed at all, rather they are mounting, and her statements are in fact, pure “garbage”.

Then perhaps someone may prompt an answer from the Obama spokespeople as to why they were entertaining the thought of fiddling with the United States Constitution back in February and April of THIS YEAR? Perhaps because it was in the best interest of Sen. Obama.

Then what of Sen. Claire McCaskill? What possible interest could she have had in these proceedings and leading the charge with her proposals? Was it a bonafide Constitutional issue of judicial importance, or rather a political one?

Digging further into the record we find that according to Wikki and subsequent footnotes therein:

“In January 2008, Claire McCaskill decided to endorse Senator Barack Obama in his campaign for the Democratic nomination for the presidential elections of 2008, making her one of the first senators to do so. She has been one of the most visible faces for his campaign.[14] McCaskill’s support was crucial to Obama’s narrow victory in the Missouri primary in February, 2008. She had been frequently mentioned as a possible vice presidential choice of Senator Obama in the 2008 run for the White House…”

So what we see is a definite political motive being dragged into the Senate for the purposes of legitimizing the 2008 candidates. But if these candidates were legitimate already, there would obviously be no reason for these proceedings.

So political was the motive of McCaskill, even Missouri’s Governor, Matt Blunt revealed that Sen. McCaskill was involved in the “abusive use of Missouri Law Enforcement“. This was dubbed as the “Truth Squad” during the election campaign by the media. The Truth Squad was comprised of Missouri officials and attorneys who set up shop on the streets of Missouri and threatened the public with criminal penalties and lawsuits if they engaged in critical speech against Sen. Obama. The Obama campaign also issued cease and desist letters to media station managers who carried advertisers who were unfriendly towards Barack Obama, namely, the NRA. Citizen outrage prompted this response from Governor Blunt:

“Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.

What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.”

Considering these facts and the judicial record, there is every reason to believe that Sen. McCaskill had no interest in resolving Sen. McCain’s eligibility, but Sen. Obama’s long-term. She manipulated the Senate and then threatened the media and the public thereafter, politically motivated at the prospect of becoming Obama’s Vice-Presidential pick. But it didn’t stop there.

Chairman Patrick J. Leahy entered into the Senate record a legal analysis of two high-powered attorneys hired by Sen. McCain – Theodore Olson and Laurence Tribe - both of whom are extremely politically active and biased, and attached that opinion to S.R. 511.

So controversial was that legal opinion, that it prompted a rebuttal by Professor Gabriel J. Chin of The University of Arizona, James E. Rogers College of Law, in a discussion paper #08-14 entitled, Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President. Professor Chin points out clearly where Tribe-Olson sought to draw out implied theories in the law, which in reality, are simply not there and in fact have been decided by the courts already, in opposition to the suggestions offered by Tribe-Olson. Simply put, the attorneys hired by Sen. McCain attempt to fit the law into their agenda with contrived implications. Professor Chin brings the law back into focus, requiring no implied theories.

Legalities aside, in anticipation of the feared “Fairness Doctrine”, the whole of the main stream media has since acquiesced to the intimidation tactics of the Obama campaign and paraded the non-binding resolution known as S.R. 511 to the public with unfactual foolishness. S.R. 511 is neither a constitutional amendment nor legally binding in any way. Yet the media caved to political pressure and reported it to the public as Chairman Leahy dictated, giving the illusion to the pubic that said resolution was binding to the 2008 election. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

The public responded, initially by way of lawsuits contesting the eligiblity of not only John McCain, but Barack Obama and Roger Calero as well, citing them all, with equal disqualifying merit, as being constitutionally ineligible to run for President of the United States. Later, netizens of the internet caught wind of the court actions and responded with their own explosion of blogs, forums, websites, chatrooms, emails, etc. In an attempt to quell the discord, the main stream media offered personalities such as Thomas Goldstein which only served to infuriate the public further. The public saw such maneuvers as deceitful and an attempt to embarrass the now educated public.

However, the greater proof is in the activity which originated in the Senate in early 2008 which was hidden from the public, that sought to change what our representatives knew to be unconstitutional from the start. The public really needs to look no further than this activity, for it speaks to the heart of the deals that went on beyond the Senate doors. Rather than trust the preservation model our founding forefathers wrote into our Constitution, these respresentatives, beholden of the public trust, saw fit to manipulate the clauses contained therein, for the sole benefit of their own political self-interests.

Perhaps our representatives, the United States Supreme Court and the main stream media would be interested in reflecting on these records and then start answering truthfully the questions which have so far been ignored. The public has been promised transparency, but to date has only been dealt scoffing, deceitful rhetoric, if they choose to address it at all.

While the public has been patient and eduring, the questions remain and refuse to be dismissed. We expect them to be answered, preferrably prior to January 20, 2009.

We the people, deserve an answer!


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; larrysinclairslover; obama; wronghilltodieon
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To: mojitojoe
MALCOLM X PHOTO GALLERY SEVERAL PAGES ; CLICK HERE


121 posted on 08/12/2009 9:15:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Lmo56
So we agree.

According to the the principal framer (John Armor Bingham )of the 14th amendment, particularly
Citizenship and the Citizenship Clause (Defining who was a citizen of the United States) and by Mr. Obama’s
own admission he is not a Natural Born citizen.

122 posted on 08/12/2009 9:16:44 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: shield

..lots of ‘Dreams From My Father’ and a good imagination.


123 posted on 08/12/2009 9:18:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: mojitojoe
Here's one when he was much younger. To me, he looks like a son of Louis Farrakhan. Do you think Michael Jackson was going for the wide chin with the giant cleft look of Malcolm X?



Here he is younger still:



Finally, here's one of Malcolm before he became poisoned with hate and still could show joy:


124 posted on 08/12/2009 9:19:42 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: RegulatorCountry
If Lincoln had been born in Illinois (statehood 1818), he would not have been eligible to be President by that reasoning. He was born in Kentucky (statehood 1792), so then that made the difference?

Yes, it would have.

Barry Goldwater's eligibility was called into question for this very reason, in 1964. He was born in Arizona, when Arizona was not yet a state.

Illinois was part of the Northwest Territory, Arizona was the Arizona Territory. Both were part of the nation, "The United States", even before they became states. They were not "out of the limits of the United States", any more than the District of Columbia was or is.

125 posted on 08/12/2009 9:20:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Fred Nerks

So sad to see what looks to be a good start crash and burn.


126 posted on 08/12/2009 9:21:11 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Lmo56

Sorry, the link is:
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=2

you have to turn to page 1291


127 posted on 08/12/2009 9:21:46 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: mojitojoe

I think we need to keep in mind, we all tend to see what we want to see. Those who WANT obama senior to be the father have their reasons. Those who do not, have another reason or reasons.

What may help is to keep in mind, if the obama sr myth is exposed, the entire edifice crumbles.


128 posted on 08/12/2009 9:23:40 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Actually, Chief Engineer had lots of research to back up those theories. The pictures you posted especially the last one of Sr has the looks of Jr. Yet we are to assume, his name is Barry Davis, right? There is just too much that has come out of Kenya including the grandmother’s testimony to not believe Jr is a Kenyan. Maybe Davis is his father but he was born in Kenyan. X is NOT his father.


129 posted on 08/12/2009 9:26:48 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: DaveTesla

So we agree.

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Absitively ...

This is one of those situations that the Founding Fathers could not have forseen, since their definition of “natural born citizen” was clearly and universally known to them.

It is in these situations where SCOTUS has the legal and moral obligation to “man up” and definitively put the issue to rest.

With no clear guidance from the Constitution, it is (therefore) necessary and right to look at the historical roots of the law, the Founding Fathers’ original intent (or in case of amendments - the amender’s intent), and plain common sense in order to resolve the question ...

HOWEVER, the current Court is full of chicken sh*ts that don’t want to own up to their obligations and responsibilities ...


130 posted on 08/12/2009 9:29:32 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: DaveTesla

Thx for the link :)


131 posted on 08/12/2009 9:31:14 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Fred Nerks
So sad to see what looks to be a good start crash and burn.

Before and after whatever it was that precipitated the downfall:


132 posted on 08/12/2009 9:32:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: El Gato

A territory is not a state, El Gato. The words have specific, legal meaning. There was a very real controversy over Barry Goldwater’s eligibility, for this very reason. Had he won election, we would no doubt have seen legal challenges, just as we’ve seen with Obama. And, there certainly would have been over Lincoln as well, had his place of birth not been a state.


133 posted on 08/12/2009 9:33:08 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: aruanan

Isn’t it interesting to see what alcoholism and communism can do to a child growing up, when the father figure is ‘under the influence’? I mean, Stanley senior must have loved that little Barry so much! He was the son Stanley Ann wasn’t. When you see pictures of Barry as a child with Stanley senior, there is a love there. But think of what a twisted outcome from that time to today’s pernicious pathological narcissist.


134 posted on 08/12/2009 9:33:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: BIGLOOK
I could swear I heard that dialog. I believe it was on Youtube from debates during the Illinois Senate race, and may not have had video associated. Keyes, in the midst of discussions about qualifications where Keyes’ role as ambassador and was dismissed, said “You aren't even eligible for higher office.” Obama said something like “I've got no interest in being president.” I wasn't anticipating the scrubbing of Youtube which has become the rule. I wonder if anyone has saved that recording?
135 posted on 08/12/2009 9:35:24 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Lmo56
“With no clear guidance from the Constitution”

Oh, but IMHO the framer (John Armor Bingham )of who
is an American citizen and the Citizenship Clause
also put who is Natural Born that in context as well.

136 posted on 08/12/2009 9:35:41 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Lmo56

who is Natural Born in context as well.


137 posted on 08/12/2009 9:36:57 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: aruanan

Malcolm X on the right?


138 posted on 08/12/2009 9:38:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: shield; Fred Nerks

Agreed; Malcolm Little has distinctive facial features/bone structure, and I do not see any of that in BO’s face.


139 posted on 08/12/2009 9:38:24 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Lmo56
HOWEVER, the current Court is full of chicken sh*ts that don’t want to own up to their obligations and responsibilities ...

That, or all three branches of government, the Executive, the Legislative and the Judicial, have been captured by the same interests, who want to undermine the sovreignty of the United States. Citizenship, in all it's forms, is a key to sovreignty, from the top on down to the issue of border control.

140 posted on 08/12/2009 9:39:01 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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