Posted on 08/12/2009 1:59:22 PM PDT by Slapshot68
"Not content to let General Motors grab all the shiny happy tree-huggy headlines today with its 230 mpg claim for the Chevy Volt in city operation, the gang manning the NissanEVs Twitter account needled GM's range-extended EV messiah, tweeting:
Nissan Leaf = 367 mpg, no tailpipe, and no gas required. Oh yeah, and it'll be affordable too!"
(Excerpt) Read more at autoblog.com ...
Yeah, Tesla really knows how to make an electric car look nice, don’t they? And I’ll be damned if they’re not crazy-powerful performance machines. They just need to get the price down. I mean, they’re priced well for their performance and luxury levels, but not for the average consumer.
I’d say more like 30 miles on 50 pounds of oats.
Nice. But the Model S is a lot less expensive and seats 7.
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/index.php
If GM is gonna charge in the upper 40s for the Volt, the Model S is a hands-down winner .... $49k.
“Have you actually seen a Tesla in real life? I have and it’s essentially a toy.”
I’ve ridden in one. It’s a little work to get into, but plenty comfortable when you’re inside. Easier to get into than an Elise, which it’s based on. And sure, all sports cars are toys. If, by toy, you mean something that’s a hell of a lot of fun. ;)
and my new Chrysler Klingon gets 500,000,000 miles on just one quark of anti-matter....
Our gubmint wants us all to be peasants. And worship them for the morsels they give back to us.
On a recent trip down Pikes Peak my SUV got at least 200mpg.
When I got to the bottom I had to start it though, drats!
GM is setting the base price at around 40k, with an average expected sale price of $43k (after options), and before the $7500 tax credit (annoying, but when the government is giving out your money, you might as well take it back). The Model S’s $49k is the expected price before options and after the $7,500 tax credit. So there’s actually more of a spread than it first appears.
Of course, the Volt is going to be a Chevy (albeit a nice one), while the Model S is undeniably a luxury car (with a 0-60 of 5.5 seconds, too — anyone who’s never had a chance to experience the power of a good EV really should some time).
Here is how I figure the mileage on my electric golf cart.
With a 3 amp battery charger it takes 16 hours to charge the 2 batteries from near dead to full charge. They total 55 amp hours (so 16 AH X3 = 48, close enough to dead for me)
48 amps x 120 volts =4980 watts, or call it 5kw is what I use to charge the cart. The maximum I pay per KWH is 11 cents, so it costs 55 cents to take the batteries to a full charge. And with a full charge, I can ride the golf cart 12 miles.
How much gasoline can I buy for 55 cents? At $2.20 a gallon, I can get a quarter of a gallon. So a full charge is about equal to 48 miles a gallon.
Not really much of a savings, but the cart is fun to drive....
Bob
That dashboard shot of that bad boy...thats a speedomoter
and a tach?
“I can do 230 MPG with one battery cell tied behind my bumper.”
Hey Nissan, watch out for the union thugs when you go poking fun at Obama Motors.
...but they drove with pride...
No, you must be continually subjected to lies from the Oval Office.
I was looking at the Tesla. Quite some performance. To replace batteries every 5 years would have to be taken into consideration. Prices on a non-Tesla sponsored forum calcs is range from $20K to $30K per car to a low of $12K if prices drop. They were talking 5 year replacement. Guess if you bought the cheaper model and ran it 5 years and liked it, you’d probably be better off trading it in for a new car.
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/faq.php?faq=vb3_board_faq#faq_roadsterfaq
Oh, the irony...
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