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Nissan pokes fun at Volt, claims 367 mpg equivalent for Leaf EV
Autoblog ^

Posted on 08/12/2009 1:59:22 PM PDT by Slapshot68

"Not content to let General Motors grab all the shiny happy tree-huggy headlines today with its 230 mpg claim for the Chevy Volt in city operation, the gang manning the NissanEVs Twitter account needled GM's range-extended EV messiah, tweeting:

Nissan Leaf = 367 mpg, no tailpipe, and no gas required. Oh yeah, and it'll be affordable too!"

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To: C210N
How about if a car uses magnetism for propulsion? Then, it would be Miles per Gauss.

Would they re-name all the gas stations Gauss stations?
41 posted on 08/12/2009 2:25:13 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Welcome to the Revolution.)
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To: al_c

Yeah, Tesla really knows how to make an electric car look nice, don’t they? And I’ll be damned if they’re not crazy-powerful performance machines. They just need to get the price down. I mean, they’re priced well for their performance and luxury levels, but not for the average consumer.


42 posted on 08/12/2009 2:26:58 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: icwhatudo

I’d say more like 30 miles on 50 pounds of oats.


43 posted on 08/12/2009 2:26:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: martin_fierro
Have you actually seen a Tesla in real life? I have and it's essentially a toy. It's a rich man's toy at that. It's so tiny you can't believe it.

The Volt will be a practical vehicle.
44 posted on 08/12/2009 2:27:14 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: martin_fierro

Nice. But the Model S is a lot less expensive and seats 7.

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/index.php


45 posted on 08/12/2009 2:27:25 PM PDT by al_c (Our government is not a spectator sport.)
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To: OldGuard1
Yeah, Tesla really knows how to make an electric car look nice, don’t they? And I’ll be damned if they’re not crazy-powerful performance machines. They just need to get the price down. I mean, they’re priced well for their performance and luxury levels, but not for the average consumer.

If GM is gonna charge in the upper 40s for the Volt, the Model S is a hands-down winner .... $49k.

46 posted on 08/12/2009 2:28:39 PM PDT by al_c (Our government is not a spectator sport.)
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To: truthguy

“Have you actually seen a Tesla in real life? I have and it’s essentially a toy.”

I’ve ridden in one. It’s a little work to get into, but plenty comfortable when you’re inside. Easier to get into than an Elise, which it’s based on. And sure, all sports cars are toys. If, by toy, you mean something that’s a hell of a lot of fun. ;)


47 posted on 08/12/2009 2:30:11 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: Slapshot68

and my new Chrysler Klingon gets 500,000,000 miles on just one quark of anti-matter....


48 posted on 08/12/2009 2:30:52 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: icwhatudo

Our gubmint wants us all to be peasants. And worship them for the morsels they give back to us.


49 posted on 08/12/2009 2:31:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Slapshot68

On a recent trip down Pikes Peak my SUV got at least 200mpg.

When I got to the bottom I had to start it though, drats!


50 posted on 08/12/2009 2:32:29 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: al_c

GM is setting the base price at around 40k, with an average expected sale price of $43k (after options), and before the $7500 tax credit (annoying, but when the government is giving out your money, you might as well take it back). The Model S’s $49k is the expected price before options and after the $7,500 tax credit. So there’s actually more of a spread than it first appears.

Of course, the Volt is going to be a Chevy (albeit a nice one), while the Model S is undeniably a luxury car (with a 0-60 of 5.5 seconds, too — anyone who’s never had a chance to experience the power of a good EV really should some time).


51 posted on 08/12/2009 2:33:44 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: OldGuard1

Here is how I figure the mileage on my electric golf cart.

With a 3 amp battery charger it takes 16 hours to charge the 2 batteries from near dead to full charge. They total 55 amp hours (so 16 AH X3 = 48, close enough to dead for me)

48 amps x 120 volts =4980 watts, or call it 5kw is what I use to charge the cart. The maximum I pay per KWH is 11 cents, so it costs 55 cents to take the batteries to a full charge. And with a full charge, I can ride the golf cart 12 miles.

How much gasoline can I buy for 55 cents? At $2.20 a gallon, I can get a quarter of a gallon. So a full charge is about equal to 48 miles a gallon.

Not really much of a savings, but the cart is fun to drive....

Bob


52 posted on 08/12/2009 2:35:30 PM PDT by Lokibob (When handed lemons...Refuse to sign for them. Life's lemons can't be delivered without a signature.)
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To: martin_fierro

That dashboard shot of that bad boy...thats a speedomoter
and a tach?


53 posted on 08/12/2009 2:36:37 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Slapshot68
How about this Smart Car?

Smart car

Uh, maybe not!

Smart car wreck

54 posted on 08/12/2009 2:41:04 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Slapshot68

“I can do 230 MPG with one battery cell tied behind my bumper.”

Hey Nissan, watch out for the union thugs when you go poking fun at Obama Motors.


55 posted on 08/12/2009 2:41:39 PM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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To: Vinnie

...but they drove with pride...


56 posted on 08/12/2009 2:42:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: George from New England

No, you must be continually subjected to lies from the Oval Office.

I was looking at the Tesla. Quite some performance. To replace batteries every 5 years would have to be taken into consideration. Prices on a non-Tesla sponsored forum calcs is range from $20K to $30K per car to a low of $12K if prices drop. They were talking 5 year replacement. Guess if you bought the cheaper model and ran it 5 years and liked it, you’d probably be better off trading it in for a new car.

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/faq.php?faq=vb3_board_faq#faq_roadsterfaq


57 posted on 08/12/2009 2:47:02 PM PDT by Sparko ("Reporting dissent is the highest form of patriotism! "- - Barack Obama in his dreams.)
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To: truthguy
Have you actually seen a Tesla in real life?

Let's try this again.

58 posted on 08/12/2009 2:49:30 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: truthguy
Please site the source of this 18K mile figure. You are worse than stupid,...

Oh, the irony...

59 posted on 08/12/2009 2:49:34 PM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: Vinnie
I saw that picture posted on The Truth About Cars, but the people there doubted it was a Smart. The wheels are wrong. They seemed to think it was an Aveo:



I have no idea, personally.
60 posted on 08/12/2009 2:50:19 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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