This blogger starts from an incorrect premise - it’s not necessary to assume a big conspiracy. Instead, all that’s needed is a family that is not too thrilled their an 18 year old daughter who has just given birth to their only grandchile being married to a whacky racist from Kenya in an era when mixed-race marriage was still a rarity. All it would have taken is a few entries on a form to give the newborn US citizenship, and no one at the state of HI ever gave it a second thought. The grandparents could probably see that a divorce was inevitable, and if the baby had Kenyan (British Colony) citizenship, it would give Obama Sr. an advantage over their daughter.
No proof, but just think about the family dynamics and it makes sense.
The major factor isn’t if he was born in Hawaii.
It is about whether he was a “Natural-Born Citizen”.
His putative father was not a citizen, and his minor mother could not legally pass on citizenship to him.
I am not a Natural-Born Citizen, as both of my parents were British Subjects, with ties to the Crown, at my birth.
His dad was NOT an American....end of story.
All the insane rantings of the left wing about George W. Bush and the Republican Party sure did hurt the Democrat Party. They were never able to recover from it. Now they will never recapture the White House, Congress, or Senate.
Actually, that is not so far-fetched. People do that all the time for the silliest of reasons. My family lied to me about the death of one of my uncles, and I didn't find out the truth until I ran into one of my cousins at my son's wedding. My uncle (an Annapolis grad) supposedly died of a burst appendix shortly before he was to take command of his first ship which was later sunk at Pearl Harbor. Old family story repeated time after time at family reunions.
Truth? My uncle died of colon cancer at Bethesda, MD. The family never spoke of the real reason because in the 1940s-1960s nobody ever wanted to admit that any relative succumbed to cancer.
There could be many reasons why his family would want to cover up the circumstances of Obama's birth. This was a seriously screwed up family.
As I mentioned on another thread, my mother actually tried to persuade me to fly back to CA to give birth to my oldest (leaving my husband) just so that she could claim to be a native Californian. Ostensibly this was so that she could claim the right to run for Maid of Cotton (had to be born in a cotton producing state) just in case she was pretty and would have wanted to do that! Geeeesh! My (otherwise) sane mother was off the deep end on this one.
Of course I said No, and not only because I had already paid the doctor to attend the birth! And yes, she placed birth announcements in every paper in every town where either my husband, or me, had ever lived!
That is what ambitious mothers did in 1960.
The press and even conservative pundits and Republican politicans are doing nothing but laughing about the “birther” theory and criticizing people for buying into it. What they fail to do is to refute it point-by-point.
I thought it was a kooky theory, too, at first. But, there’s much more to it than Obama’s place of birth, such as:
Does his father’s nationality affect his natural born status?
Does his stepfather’s adoption of him and his living in another country as a child affect his status?
And so many more questions.
Most of us aren’t legal scholars. But, when these questions arise, the press should answer them. Tell us. Cover the story point by point.
But, no, instead they’re demonizing anyone who even dares to talk about the story (for example, Dobbs).
The very first assertion you make is false! There need be no “conspiracy” involving state officials. They are legally bound NOT to release the birth certificate unless Obama or a close relative requests a copy.
The second assertion you make is false! It is NOT the least bit improbable that Obama was lied to, and has been himself lying, about his birthplace, because, if he was not born in Hawaii, his mother had a substantial reason to lie, from the day of his birth, because: If Obama was born in Hawaii, he was a citizen; if he was not born in Hawaii, he has never been a citizen.
There’s no particular virtue in being a “provocateur” if all you are really doing is mouthing off uninformed nonsense that other people, if they have the patience, are “provoked” into correcting.
-- Obama lied on his application to the Illinois Bar Association and the photocopy is part of legal filings in court, where he swore that he had never been known by any name except Barack Obama ... he has used Barry Dunham, Barry Obama, and Barry Soetoro as so far discovered
-- Obama's Selective Service card is so badly forged that the type face doesn't even match
-- Obama filed on the Internet a supposed copy of his CoLB he claimed was sent from Hawaii ... it is a clear forgery, a false document which, when it appeared a legal case just might get to discovery, the Obama campaign goons scrubbed fromt he Internet
-- After posting a clear forgery of a supposed CoLB, Obama presented an exhibit to the same factcheck.org people who posted his first forgery, and has claimed that this is the real CoLB from Hawaii
-- The supposed birth announcement for barry from supposedly 1961 lists an address where witnesses have said no black man with a white wife and a mixed baby ever lived, a home occupied by a different family until just three years ago
-- The driver's License listed on the parking tickets from Cambridge Mass from when Barry was in Harvard reference a Social Security number which belonged to a man more than a hundred years old, long dead
-- Barack Obama has 39 different social security numbers and they are listed in a court filing in California
“In order to believe that President Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii, you not only have to believe that a conspiracy is being created involving an entire state’s bureaucratic apparatus, but you also have to believe that President Obama has been lying, or lied to, since he was a child.”
First of all, how is it a ‘conspiracy by the entire state’s bureaucatic apparatus’? It’s a matter of privacy and anyone working in that ‘apparatus’ would be in deep trouble for divulging a person’s private information. The only thing the Hawaii government has to do is wait for the non-forthcoming request from one Barack Obama Jr.
I do believe Obama is lying and so are many people who are trying to cover this up. Every record that can be tied to a birth certificate is not available. Also, he was a student in Indonesia during a time there was no dual citizenship. Therefore, if he were born in Hawaii, he would have still had to have renounced his citizenship.
The only thing the American people have to look at are a COLB which is a fraud and Obama’s grandmother’s word; and you wonder why everyone is suspicious.
Those questioning his eligibility do not have a responsibility to disprove his status.
The use of the word “birther” is nothing more than an attempt to discredit those who are simply asking that the Constitutional Requirement that Obama is a Natural Born Citizen be affirmed.
If he proves his eligibility, the issue is resolved. As long as he does not, the issue remains unresolved unless someone is an Obama Sycophant with no interest in the Rule of Law.
Wasn't it somebody named Hillary Clinton who said that if you disagree with the Administration you are Patriotic?
It is also interesting that the same Media who left no stone unturned to dig up President Bush's College Transcripts and GPA have not found ANY information on Obama’s College records.
I do not have a conspiracy theory. I do not have anything but questions...from what I can see they are legitimate questions.
The questions arise from the actions of the President.
Why fight in court for something that is so simple?
If the long form BC is embarrassing and he doesn’t want it exposed he chose the wrong line of work
Repeating shallow assertions which have been fully & deeply refuted does not a valid opinion make.
Is it ok for any President to withhold any of his past records ? If so which ones?
“Natural Born Citizen.” Barack Obama could have been born in the White House and NOT be a natural born citizen. Why? Because his father was a Kenyan (a foreign soverneignty).
” you also have to believe that President Obama has been lying, or lied to, since he was a child.”
Obama actually said pretty much that exact thing in “Dreams From My Father.”
I don’t have “ Dreams “ here at the office, but, there is a passage where Obama writes that his grandfather told so many false stories about the family and it’s history,
that he stopped believing a word he said.
IIRC, he called him a white revisionist or typical white revisionist.
Original birth certificate — Not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Besuki School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released and under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — Lost