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Obama's Dr. Mengele Admits Health Care "Reform" Will Kill Old People Sooner
Flopping Aces ^ | 07-25-09 | Mike's America

Posted on 07/25/2009 5:12:31 PM PDT by Starman417

White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's brother, a physician, appointed to Obama health care job admits killing old people is the only way to cut costs!

DEADLY DOCTORS O ADVISERS WANT TO RATION CARE By BETSY MCCAUGHEY New York Post July 24, 2009

Emanuel: Believes in withholding care from elderly for greater good. THE health bills coming out of Congress would put the decisions about your care in the hands of presidential appointees. They'd decide what plans cover, how much leeway your doctor will have and what seniors get under Medicare.

Yet at least two of President Obama's top health advisers should never be trusted with that power.

Start with Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research.

Emanuel bluntly admits that the cuts will not be pain-free. "Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely 'lipstick' cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change," he wrote last year (Health Affairs Feb. 27, 2008).

Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, "as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others" (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008). Yes, that's what patients want their doctors to do. But Emanuel wants doctors to look beyond the needs of their patients and consider social justice, such as whether the money could be better spent on somebody else.

Many doctors are horrified by this notion; they'll tell you that a doctor's job is to achieve social justice one patient at a time. Emanuel, however, believes that "communitarianism" should guide decisions on who gets care. He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia" (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. '96). Translation: Don't give much care to a grandmother with Parkinson's or a child with cerebral palsy.

He explicitly defends discrimination against older patients: "Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years" (Lancet, Jan. 31).

"Communitarianism?" Sounds like ?

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To: GeronL

Yeah, like he’s a doctor. He needs to go.


21 posted on 07/25/2009 5:31:42 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: narses
So this is where all the social justice crap has taken us. Dr. Mengele’s health care reform should be mailed to every Bishop in the country and they should be made to respond, or will more than half of them crawl under their beds like they have over the abortion issue.
22 posted on 07/25/2009 5:38:50 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: Starman417

This is Soylent Green


23 posted on 07/25/2009 5:39:30 PM PDT by omega4179 ((/) Happened)
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To: mimaw

I agree. Mine will get a copy. Much good that will do.


24 posted on 07/25/2009 5:41:15 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: Starman417

After being forced to submit to “end-of-life” brain-washing sessions from age 65, there will probably be very few who make it to 75....except for the “indispensable” Democrat politicians, of course. Specimens such as Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd will be exempt.


25 posted on 07/25/2009 5:43:35 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: All
Headline?

As seniors do "the right thing we'll do just fine."
AARP To Lower Age Limit
Best for bottom line. "We fully support less expensive palliative care," says AARP spokesman.

26 posted on 07/25/2009 5:49:50 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: MarMema

My God (and I don’t say that in vain), this is history repeating itself. Father in Heaven help us all...


27 posted on 07/25/2009 5:51:56 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot
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To: Starman417


28 posted on 07/25/2009 5:53:08 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Starman417

The 0bamunists are trying to ‘fix’ healthcare AND the pending Social Security meltdown in the same pogrom.

Too many old folks? Too many infirm folks with no hope of improvement? Simple... Control their access to treatments and care. They’ll die quicker. VOILA! Fewer people drawing SocSec.

Problem solved...

It’s time to take back the country.


29 posted on 07/25/2009 5:55:26 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: combat_boots

Where is the part of the bill that says to withhold care from the disabled? After all “we” don’t need them either. Or at least the demoncrats don’t.


30 posted on 07/25/2009 6:02:40 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Diversity causes division and resentment.)
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To: PubliusMM

Isn’t it ironic that a democrat president is emulating hitler’s final solution when another democrat president fought to destroy hitler? And all the while accusing anyone who disagrees with them of being nazi’s.
Nazi is the german anachromym for National Socialists Workers Party. Heil ozero.


31 posted on 07/25/2009 6:03:00 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: combat_boots
The elderly, the infirm, the seriously ill, the disabled. HIV/AIDS.

HIV/AIDS? You are talking about a protected class there. That will never be rationed.

Seriously, the problem with "end-of-life" care decisions is that a lot of care can be end-of-life care if you deny it. Juvenile cancer treatment, a new born that needs a respirator, a 50 year old that need a heart bypass. All you have to do is make the waiting list long enough. Once you start making those decisions where do you stop. The answer is that you don't.

My grandfather had a bypass/valve replacement done when he was 75. Pretty sketchy, but he lived 4 more years before being felled by cancer. A lot of his health issues were due to war wounds from WWII. His legs were all messed up and he wore two different sized shoes. When they start rationing care to guys like him they will basically saying 'thanks for all the work, paying taxes, bleeding for your country, but we don't need you anymore.'

I don't want to live in a country like that.

32 posted on 07/25/2009 6:03:15 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Starman417
How do you say plus ca change in German?
33 posted on 07/25/2009 6:03:33 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (Don't blame me... I voted for PALIN!)
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To: PubliusMM

Hey, isn’t teddy kennedy a candiate? He could be put in an oldsmobile and shoved off a bridge into a river somewhere in mass. What the hell, good for the goose.....


34 posted on 07/25/2009 6:04:21 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: Paladin2

Planned Grandparenthood Clinics


35 posted on 07/25/2009 6:04:44 PM PDT by Semperfiwife (Health "care" - by the same folks who run Amtrak and the post office)
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To: webschooner

I pray to God that OBAMA gets his just desserts soon.


36 posted on 07/25/2009 6:06:13 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: PubliusMM
The 0bamunists are trying to ‘fix’ healthcare AND the pending Social Security meltdown in the same pogrom (sic!).

Its amazing how much of ALL the individual programs and efforts of these leftists dovetail with each other with an underlying agenda linking them all. From the Weatherman links to -9bama, and their touting the need to kill of 25 million... and that was many years ago. Hollywood preparing us to die by the millions in disasters (saw a preview today of an ameggedden type movie, to come out later in the summer). Helping in various ways nuke seeking whackjobs in Iran, NK... that constantly state the desire to wipe out Israel and South Korea. Then there is abortion... and this health care government-run euthenasia they are pushing. Destroying the economy is linked in too... perhaps indirectly, but it does raise unemployment while fanning flames of racism at the same time...

We NEED 2010, and need it now!

37 posted on 07/25/2009 6:48:42 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: Starman417
C'mon, America... you didn't really think they were going to stop at unborn babies, did you?
38 posted on 07/25/2009 6:51:15 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: combat_boots
Anyone who thinks the Terri case was not about this is deluded. She was the precedent.

Of course she was. I hope those who didn't get it then are starting to get it now.

39 posted on 07/25/2009 6:52:43 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: rfreedom4u

I suggest you add these up. THe word ‘disabled’ is not used, but, it’s there.........

From the twitter threads:

“PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of Dr’s time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans. We’re next.”

PG 268 Line 1141 Fed Government regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

PG 287 Line 14-25 PROOF that Government will ration HealthCare by mandating waiting periods for readmission.

PG 298 Line 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission - Government will penalize you.

Pg335 L16-25,PG 336-339 Government mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HealthCare the way they want. Rationing.

PG 341 Line 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing into Government plan.

PG 354 Line 1177 Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advance care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.

PG 438 Section 1236 The Government will develop a patient decision making aid program that you & Dr. WILL use.

PG 460 Section 1302 Knock Knock - It’s the Government and I’m here with the Medical Home Program - YOUR home.

PG 460 Section 1302 The Government WILL provide medical services in your home. Paging Nurse Pelosi!!

PG 464 Lines 17-22 Independent Patient Center Home Medical Services - Drs. don’t have to be at your home just some directed by D

PG 469 Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit organizations. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?

PG 476 19-20 Chapter 35/ title 44, (Privacy of personal records) shall not apply Home Medical Services. ACORN ACCESS

PG 489 Section 1308 Government will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt into your marriage.

PG 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.

PG 504 Line 6-10 The “Center” will collect data both published & unpublished (that means public & your private info) for ALL.

PG 525-620 deals with the Government basically taking over nursing homes,

PGs 525-620 deals with the Govt basically taking over nursing homes,long-term care facilities (think assisted living) through regulations of the facilities, the owners of sd facilities, the employees of sd facilities and even the land owners of that sd facilities reside on. Additionally as you read these 90+ pages you can come to the conclusion that any Health related svcs will be determined and rationed by the Govt for our senior citizens and others in nursing homes. This one post should do enough to raise awareness of the control the Govt is exerting over the older population of American citizens.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to assess outcomes & functional status of patients.

PG 628 Section 1443 Government will give “Multi-Stake Holders” Pre-Rule Making input into Selection of “Quality” Measures.

PG 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups including Unions & groups like ACORN deciding HealthCare quality.

PG 632 Lines 14-25 The Government may implement any “Quality measure” of HealthCare Services as they see fit.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Quality Measures” for Physician Services & Dialysis Services.

Pg 719-720 Section 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable medical equipment or home medical services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.

PG 722 Section 1639 Government Mandates Doctors must have face-to-face with patient to certify patient for Home Health Services.

PG 724 Lines 16-22 Government reserves right to apply face-to-face certification for patient to ANY other HealthCare service.

PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same Government certifications will apply to medicaid & CHIP (your kids)

Page 820-824 Sec 1801 Government will identify individuals ineligible for subsidies. Will access all personal finances.

Pg 824-829 SEC. 1802. Government Sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.

PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.

PG 936 Government will develop “Healthy People & National Public Health Performance Standards” Tell me what to eat?

PG 1001 The Government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?

PG 1003 9-11 National Medical Dev Reg ‘‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities” you WILL be tracked.

Oh, and TRICARE will go up.


40 posted on 07/25/2009 6:55:21 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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