Posted on 07/02/2009 9:12:44 AM PDT by jxb7076
The Law of Punishment and Reward
Anyone who captures a free person, brings them to another country against their will, forces them to do manual labor without pay, while physically and psychologically abusing them – denying them equal rights to resources are creating a moral and ethical system by which redress is inevitable. Although the era supported this type of behavior and it was acceptable by the legitimate government one could argue that no wrong was committed – except the one who was subjected to the treatment. For them, it was not consensual therefore it's illegal and degrading. Let’s say he/she was subjected to this type of treatment suddenly and unexpectedly. The psychological ramifications would be astronomical leaving mental scars for generations to come.
Let’s go a step further to say that his/her generation for the next two hundred years or more was subjected to this type of treatment from the time they were born to the time of their death. Let’s include the notion that the captured individual wanted to return to their home land and was not only denied the right, but was brutally killed for the thought. Taken a step further, let’s say the captured individuals tried to escape the brutality of their environment but was recaptured, ridiculed and tortured in the presence of thousands. And to conclude let’s say the captured people was suddenly freed – given the rights as free people, then the individual would probably sue and be awarded a lot money. That’s the law of punishment and reward.
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will there be reparations for the victims of Affirmative Action?
not if you’re white - sorry, I am just being honest.
I believe in reperations, and as soon as they produce a slave i will give him my paycheck.
Reparations??
Paid in full with 620,000 dead in the War between the States......
Though I firmly believe that Obama’s redistribution of wealth schemes are designed as a sort of back door, stealth reparation program...
I will take up arms and use them if one dime of my money is used to pay this.
Slavery in modern Africa
Slavery in Africa continues today. Slavery existed in Africa before the arrival of Europeans - as did a slave trade that exported millions of sub-Saharan Africans to North Africa, the Middle East, and the Persian Gulf.[1] However, slavery and bondage are still African realities. Hundreds of thousands of Africans still suffer in silence in slave-like situations of forced labour and commercial sexual exploitation from which they cannot free themselves.
Modern-day enslavers also exploit lack of political will at the highest levels of some African governments to effectively tackle trafficking and its root causes. Weak interagency co-ordination and low funding levels for ministries tasked with prosecuting traffickers, preventing trafficking and protecting victims also enable traffickers to continue their operations. The transnational criminal nature of trafficking also overwhelms many countries’ law enforcement agencies, which are not equipped to fight organised criminal gangs that operate across national boundaries with impunity.
Slavery by African country
Chad
IRIN (Integrated Regional Information Networks) of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs reports children being sold to Arab herdsmen in Chad. As part of a new identity imposed on them the herdsman "...change their name, forbid them to speak in their native dialect, ban them from conversing with people from their own ethnic group and make them adopt Islam as their religion."[2]
Mali
The Malian government denies that slavery exists, however, the slavery in Timbuktu is obvious. Slavery still continues with some Tuaregs holding Bella people.[3]
Mauritania
A system exists now by which Arab Muslims -- the bidanes -- own black slaves, the haratines.[4] An estimated 90,000 black Mauritanians remain essentially enslaved to Arab/Berber owners.[5] The ruling bidanes (the name means literally white-skinned people) are descendants of the Sanhaja Berbers and Beni Hassan Arab tribes who emigrated to northwest Africa and present-day Western Sahara and Mauritania during the Middle Ages.[6] According to some estimates, up to 600,000 black Mauritanians, or 20% of the population, are still enslaved, many of them used as bonded labour.[7] Slavery in Mauritania was finally criminalized in August 2007.[8] Malouma Messoud, a former Muslim slave has explained her enslavement to a religious leader:
"We didn't learn this history in school; we simply grew up within this social hierarchy and lived it. Slaves believe that if they do not obey their masters, they will not go to paradise. They are raised in a social and religious system that everyday reinforces this idea.[9]"
In Mauritania, despite slave ownership having been banned by law in 1981, hereditary slavery continues.[10] Moreover, according to Amnesty International:
"Not only has the government denied the existence of slavery and failed to respond to cases brought to its attention, it has hampered the activities of organisations which are working on the issue, including by refusing to grant them official recognition".[11]
Imam El Hassan Ould Benyamin of Tayarat in 1997 expressed his views about earlier proclamations ending slavery in his country as follows:
"[it] is contrary to the teachings of the fundamental text of Islamic law, the Quran ... [and] amounts to the expropriation from muslims of their goods; goods that were acquired legally. The state, if it is Islamic, does not have the right to seize my house, my wife or my slave."[12]
Niger
In Niger, where the practice of slavery was outlawed in 2003, a study found that almost 8% of the population are still slaves.[13] Slavery dates back for centuries in Niger and was finally criminalised in 2003, after five years of lobbying by Anti-Slavery International and Nigerian human-rights group, Timidria.[14] More than 870,000 people still live in conditions of forced labour, according to Timidria, a local human rights group.[15][16]
Descent-based slavery, where generations of the same family are born into bondage, is traditionally practised by at least four of Niger’s eight ethnic groups. The slave masters are mostly from the nomadic tribes — the Tuareg, Fulani, Toubou and Arabs.[17] It is especially rife among the warlike Tuareg, in the wild deserts of north and west Niger, who roam near the borders with Mali and Algeria.[18] In the region of Say on the right bank of the river Niger, it is estimated that three-quarters of the population around 1904-1905 was composed of slaves.[19]
Historically, the Tuareg swelled the ranks of their slaves during war raids into other peoples’ lands. War was then the main source of supply of slaves, although many were bought at slave markets, run mostly by indigenous peoples.[20][21]
Sudan
Francis Bok, former Sudanese slave. At the age of seven, he was captured during a raid in Southern Sudan, and enslaved for ten years.(Courtesy Unitarian Universalist Association/Jeanette Leardi)
There has been a recrudescence of jihad slavery since 1983 in the Sudan.[23][24]
Slavery in the Sudan predates Islam, but continued under Islamic rulers and has never completely died out in Sudan. In the Sudan, Christian and animist captives in the civil war are often enslaved, and female prisoners are often used sexually, with their Muslim captors claiming that Islamic law grants them permission.[25] According to CBS news, slaves have been sold for $50 apiece. [1] In 2001 CNN reported the Bush administration was under pressure from Congress, including conservative Christians concerned about religious oppression and slavery, to address issues involved in the Sudanese conflict.[26] CNN has also quoted the U.S. State Department's allegations: "The [Sudanese] government's support of slavery and its continued military action which has resulted in numerous deaths are due in part to the victims' religious beliefs." [2]
Jok Madut Jok, professor of History at Loyola Marymount University, states that the abduction of women and children of the south by north is slavery by any definition. The government of Sudan insists that the whole matter is no more than the traditional tribal feuding over resources.[27]
It is estimated that as many as 200,000 people had been taken into slavery during the Second Sudanese Civil War. The slaves are mostly Dinka people.[28][29]
Child slave trade
The trading of children has been reported in modern Nigeria and Benin.[30] The children are kidnapped or purchased for $20 - $70 each by slavers in poorer states, such as Benin and Togo, and sold into slavery in sex dens or as unpaid domestic servants for $350.00 each in wealthier oil-rich states, such as Nigeria and Gabon.[31] [32]
Ghana, Togo, Benin
In parts of Ghana, a family may be punished for an offense by having to turn over a virgin female to serve as a sex slave within the offended family.[33] In this instance, the woman does not gain the title of "wife". In parts of Ghana, Togo, and Benin, shrine slavery persists, despite being illegal in Ghana since 1998. In this system of slavery, sometimes called trokosi (in Ghana) or voodoosi in Togo and Benin, or ritual servitude, young virgin girls are given as slaves in traditional shrines and are used sexually by the priests in addition to providing free labor for the shrine.[34]
Ethiopia
Mahider Bitew, Children's Rights and Protection expert at the Ministry of Women's Affairs, says that some isolated studies conducted in Dire Dawa, Shashemene, Awassa and three other towns of the country indicate that the problem of child trafficking is very serious. According to a 2003 study about one thousand children were trafficked via Dire Dawa to countries of the Middle East. The majority of those children were girls, most of whom were forced to be sex workers after leaving the country. The International Labor Organization (ILO) has identified prostitution as the Worst Form of Child Labor.[35]
In Ethiopia, children are trafficked into prostitution, to provide cheap or unpaid labor and to work as domestic servants or beggars. The ages of these children are usually between 10 and 18 and their trafficking is from the country to urban centers and from cities to the country. Boys are often expected to work in activities such as herding cattle in rural areas and in the weaving industry in Addis Ababa, and other major towns. Girls are expected to take responsibilities for domestic chores, childcare and looking after the sick and to work as prostitutes.[35]
Can I countersue for the impact of the Great Society and the trillions paid out for welfare, lawsuits, prisons, illegitimate babies, destruction of once-proud neightborhoods etc. that are brought to us courtesy of the descendents of slaves?
...Here's my take on the entire Reparations issue: Having seen the massive failure of governmental intervention in the form of Welfare for nearly half a century, Blacks have not been well served: One of the most glaring legacies of Government Help is the staggering illegitimacy rate of 73%.
So, to answer the question (from a Black woman's perspective), Reparations would be yet another nail in our coffin. And as far as Blacks lagging behind new (legal) immigrants (including some from African nations), part of the blame does lie with the man (or woman) in the mirror. If these folks can go out, work hard and make sacrifices, the Black American can too. We no longer have the Ku Klux Klan or Jim Crow holding us back. And one positive step in that direction would be leaving the Democratic Party plantation, with its new Black Overseer.
NO
Liberia comes to mind... Abraham Lincoln...send them all back...
It already is.
It’s called ACORN and bail outs for the “redistribution of wealth”.
Nope. The Democrats have devised a brand new form of slavery and abuse. It's called government assistance. "Yes, sir, massa! Where be my check? You is a good massa, sir."
Then stock up on ammo.
let's see. I was a free person, I live in Texas but am forcibly brought into the USSA against my will, I am forced to toil with half of my labor taken from me with no pay, and I am psychologically abused by the government and the Marx-Stream-Media. So I am a slave, by definition. Waiting, not terribly patiently for the spark to rejuvenate freedom.
BTW - it's still hard to find .45 Auto ammo. I've waited 6 months for ammo from Georgia Arms, it's on back-order. None in stock at Gander Mountain - so I bought some 00Buck while it was on the shelf.
That’s all small arms ammo, the typical gangbanger has that stuff. You will need something like the M50/M60 caliber sniper weapons and at least one AT4. IED’s may be an option if you live in a remote area. lol
Thanks for the feedback T LAdy: Frankly, I believe the complexity of this topic is so vast that a begining point could easily take a generation to map out. I personally think this window passed over a two hundred years ago and we need to move on.
However, I do expect one form of monetary reparations each year and that’s my income tax return. Unfortunately, last year I had to pay the government their reparations.
Let’s see - my ancestors were slaves but I am paying reparations to the government. life really sucks!
Reparations is a bad idea - too complex to enact. Who would get paid? What criteria would be used? What percentage of ancestry would be required?
What if they are adopted from outside the US but are black? Would they fit the criteria? What about those that have both African and Caucasian (or Asian or Latino or ?) Would we judge by the color of their skin? Would it be on a percentage of current income (thus invalidating all the multi-million dollar athletes, entertainers, movie stars, business owners, politicians)? Would it be based on loss of opportunity from 150 years ago? Would it then need to be compared to a theoretical lifestyle had they been left in Africa? Would most financially successful African Americans consider it a slap in the face and a return to the plantation?
My solution: Slavery is born from racism (one race is superior to another). Racism is an attitude of the heart and that cannot be legislated, nor taxed. Changes of the heart must come from within the individual and may take some time. Both black and white must deal with the attitues in their heart - as individuals.
Answer this: What’s the attitude in your heart if your daughter wanted to marry a man from another race? Does that matter more than if he is a kind, self-controlled, hard working man?
I am still trying to understand why African Americans are so committed to the Democratic party!!!!! ....and that crap about Bill Clinton being the first black president bothered me for the entire eight years he was in office. George Bush had more african Americans in high positions in his first year than Clinton had in his entire eight years.
Anyway...... I love this country and African Americans can choose any party they want. It’s a free country. I served 25 years in the army to make sure of that.
A problem which now affect the Hispanic and Anglo communities as well. I give the Democratic leadership the benefit of the doubt that they weren't so stupid as to not see the inevitable results of attempting to replace husbands and fathers with government. This result was no accident, but a natural consequence of a deliberate attack on traditional western civilization. They wanted to destroy the nuclear family and create a "great society" of universal dependence on government.
We no longer have the Ku Klux Klan or Jim Crow holding us back
Unfortunately, that isn't completely true. Many of the anti-minority gun control laws passed as part of Jim Crow are still in effect. The shameful legacy of racism won't be completely over until liberals repent of their most horrible sin of victim disarmament. As long as vile racists like Diane Feinstein and Charles Schumer are still electable, we have a long way to go before there is true equality.
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