[Polarik]

If you think that the courts will actually rule that Obama is ineligible and should step down or be removed as President, then I have this 1961 Kenyan birth certificate I'd like to sell you.

Oh, and when you continue to crack on the fake COLB "conspiracy," you had better believe that I take it personally.

[Polarik]

Ping!

[grey_whiskers]

Nice strawman.

Your money quote which you seem to miss the implications of is here:

In other words, folks, Obama was not a British citizen at birth. Obama might have been born with no citizenship at all if he was born in Kenya. and not Hawaii.

If he has no citizenship at all, he cannot be a natural-born US citizen.

My personal thinking is that his birth certificate has a typo, which shows him either as a girl, or white.

He's too f***ing narcissistic to ever let a mistake of that sort see the light of day.

Cheers!

[PhiKapMom]

I think the ONLY action to take is in the States that every person running for office within a state has to prove with the long form with the seal that they are eligible to run. That means running for President would require 51 (DC) certified birth certificates.

It would not make a difference now but it would in 2012. The Senate certified McCain was eligible but never did certify ZERO.

[bgill]

America’s court system might just be her downfall. Cases can be dragged out for decades and never be settled. Hussein knows this and that’s why he’s sealed every last shred of evidence up tighter than Ft. Knox. I don’t blame the usurper so much as those who blindly brought him to power. Washington needs a good house cleaning.

[Yosemitest]

I found it.

President Barack Hussein Obama Kenya Birth Certificate by Seller colmado_naranja

Here's the Item Description:

This is auction is for a certified copy of President Barack Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate.

President Barack Hussein Obama II was born in The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombasa in
Kenya at 7:24 PM on August 4th 1961.

I've traveled throughout the Caribbean (including Cuba), Ibero America (i.e.,Latin America), and Africa. I have a Bachelors in Sociology, a Bachelors in Social Sciences as well as a Bachelors in Afro-Caribbean Studies. I'm a collector of old Dominican and Cuban money.

I've worked in the Democratic Republic of the Congo as an advisor in the government's Hydrology & Rain Water Management Administration.

This spring I traveled through Kenya and it's capital Nairobi. I was overwhelmed by the "iconicized" face of US President Barack Obama that displays itself throughout the country. I had lunch at a small eatery and noticed that the Club Sandwich with fried Plantains was now known as "Obama's Plate of the Day."

As an American I was bombarded with questions in english (english is the official language of Kenya) on my feelings and opinions of a Kenyan governing the United States of America. The first several times I responded in saying that not enough time had elapsed since Barack Obama's appointment as President of the USA, and that I'd have to hold my official opinion until at least January 2010, a year in office might be sufficient for me to judge his ability to govern the USA.

Natuarally I thought that by "Kenyan" they were referring to Barack Obama's blood, being that his father Barack Obama Sr was a native of Kenya. After a day and a half of my being in Nairobi I learned that they were literally referring to President Barack Obama Jr as being born in Kenya, a native of Kenya. Now I started asking questions, did his father's Kenyan blood somehow entitle Barack Jr to the equivalent of a native Kenyan? No, not all, I was to find out. They were referring to Barack Obama Jr's physical birth on Kenyan soil.

Kenyans were amused at how gullible Americans could be when it came to obvious things like the fact that Kenyans overtly admit to Barack Jr's Kenyan birth, yet the Americans continue to believe that they know better.

I delved further and found that a birth certificate was on file at The Coast Provincial General Hospital at Mombasa.

I know several American expats that reside in Kenya. I asked the three that I could reach if they were aware of President Barack Obama's Kenyan birth. All three said that they were most obviously aware of his Kenyan birth. I was shocked. They went to further say that they weren't much concerned with it, after all they'd left the US to start a new life abroad and didn't have much interest in what was taking place in the States. Besides, they said, who would believe them anyway?

Along with my Congolese brother Andylenny (brother in heart, not blood) and a 1993 BMW with only one working door I was off to Mombasa to get myself a copy (certified I hoped) of Barack Jr's birth certificate.

AND THAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS WHAT YOU ARE BIDDING ON HERE IN THIS EBAY AUCTION, CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

I am not posting any photos of the birth certificate here on Ebay. I have not seen this birth certificate anywhere on the internet, to post it here on Ebay would lead to a flood of facsimiles on the internet. This would inadvertently decrease the value of the certificate as well.

In further support of I offer the facts below:

A. Barack Obama (or anyone) has never released a copy of his "Hawaiian" birth certificate. No one has ever seen it. Only a copy of his Hawaiian "Registry of Birth" or Registration of Birth" has been released to the public. Hey, I have a registry of birth as well (along with my birth certificate). It's funny how a registry of birth is not valid as a form of identification. It can't be used to verify age or identity. Just try to use yours (yes, you have a registry of birth as well) at the DOT or DMV or even at the Social Security Administration if you ever lose your SS card and need a replacement. NO ONE WILL ACCEPT A REGISTRY OF BIRTH. Yet the President uses his to verify to all of America that he was born in the United States? And hey, you might say, "What's the deal you conspiracy freak! You're just looking for any reason discredit Barack Obama." Well then, if it's not a big deal at all, then why can't anyone produce Barack's birth certificate?

B. The Barack Obama Administration, in an attempt to put the birth certificate issue to a rest, has presented the American public with a FAKE, FORGED, FRAUDULENT Hawaiian Birth Certificate in response to a growing number of the American public that have been demanding proof that Barack was born in the US. Hey, what? You say you don't believe me? Just google it! Jay McKinnon, a Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fake Barack Obama Hawaiian birth certificate. JUST GOOGLE IT!

Message me with any questions that you might have regarding this auction for President Barack Hussein Obama Jr's Kenyan Birth Certificate (certified Birth Certificate). I reserve the right to not answer specific questions who's answers would no doubt be wallpapered across the internet by breakfast time. I will however reply to all questions. My replies may contain specific answers, and they may not. This will be at my discretion.

If the need arises I may be contacted via telephone. Contact me via Ebay message if you believe that your question or questions merit a phone call.

International bidders are welcome.

Domestic shipping is free, international will be a flat fee of $75.00. All shipping will be insured, and overnight via USPS, UPS, or FEDEX. You pick.

HAPPY BIDDING !!!



It's a real listing on e-Bay.

[Repeal The 17th]

“...his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham,
and his father, Barack Hussein Obama Sr.,
WERE NEVER MARRIED...”
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So, in addition to everything else, he is also a bastard?

[Gay State Conservative]

Legally,I believe,the fact that Hussein may or may not have been,at one time,a British citizen doesn’t matter.All countries have the right to consider anyone they want to be a citizen.My Dad and his siblings were considered to be Irish citizens from the day they were born by the Irish government even though they didn’t apply for it and they were all born here of *two* US citizens.

[mrmeangenes]

Glad to hear that you take it so seriously !

I was getting worried that the stimulus-funded grant to the university might have slowed you down.

[txoilman]

So I guess the divorce papers of OBAMA Sr and Stanley Ann Dunham are also fake!

[BP2]

If this court case should actually make it as far as the Supreme Court, and if it looks like he is going to lose the case, Obama will make a startling announcement!

Obama announces that the reason why he was withholding his original birth certificate is because he didn't want anyone to know that his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, and his father, Barack Hussein Obama Sr., WERE NEVER MARRIED!!!!

Bullsh!t -- it's a matter of court record!

And confirmed elsewhere:

The divorce papers would hold up in court -- not a "claim" that there was NOT a marriage. Furthermore, the courts must abide by THIS:

However, if you REALLY want to be sure -- simply conduct a DNA test! I'm sure that would yield some interesting results, too...

[Kandy]

Yeah, WND has the eBAY “certified Kenyan BC” sale mention:

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=102271

[ckilmer]

We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said his mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born.

If its the case (please give documentation) that british law only gives citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother

.........then since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his kenyan/british citizenship?

(the implication here is that obama got british/kenyan citizenship through place of birth and not parentage--ie kenya.)

[BP2]

British Nationality Prior to 1983

The British Nationality Act 1981 came into force on 1 January 1983. Prior to 1983, British nationality was only be transmitted from the father through one generation only, and parents were required to be married.

That can be construed as jus sanguinis or possibly even a type of lex soli in Obama Sr's case, but not jus soli (unless you want to give the Kenyan birth theory credence)

[justiceseeker93]

It seems as if the motive of those pushing the British citizen argument and disparaging the importance of the Birth Certificate are trying to drive a wedge between what they perceive as two factions of the "Birther" movement and thereby weaken it.

[MHGinTN]

It is essential to demand more than just a long form birth certificate from Barry Soetoro. We must also demand the college netrance papers, the applications for student aid, and his tuition documentation.

We must also insist on seeing his passport records from his college years. There is a smelly fish rotting in the Congress as they promoted an affirmative action figure fraud by usurping the role of the Supreme court in interpreting the Constitution and by fiat fabricating a substitute amendment to the Constitution on the eligibility issue ... for John McCain!

This same fiat usurpation of our Constitutional contract has been used to cower the feckless Roberts court into acquiescing to the demands of the affimative action candidate subtley threatening race riots of the Odinga scale if he is not ushered into the office he demands without proof of Constitutional eligibility.

It is likely that we have a felon in the White HOuse, as per his forgery used to claim Constitutional eligibility.

We the people must have ALL the evidence on this lying sack of crap the democrats have foisted upon the world. If he used an Indonesian passport based upon claimed Indonesian citizenship to travel outside the US, he has shown divided loyalties in his adult life.

If he applied for college aid claiming to be an foregin student, he has committed fraud either to US or the college requirements if he was not a foreign student. Ron, one cannot be legitimately a foreign student and a U.S resident student simultaneously in a U.S. College or UNiversity.

There is a criminal liar in the White HOuse and all three branches of the federal governemnt have been complicit in posting this affirmative action criminal there!

We the people must demand this be made right or we will have been usurped as the actual sovereigns of a Constitutional Republic because the other party in the contract has abrogated the agreement byfiat appointment of an 'extra-constitutional' liar to head a branch of the government. We are witnessing a coup d'etat and have not a clue since the enemedia is covering for the liar-in-chief they worship as their ruler.

[real_patriotic_american]

Note the amount in legal fees Obama is paying to keep his documents hidden.

Add this to an investigation: “Obama claims to have traveled to Pakistan in 1981 at age 20. At that time, Pakistan was on the U.S. “no travel” list. Thus, Obama likely didn’t use a U.S. passport to travel there. He probably used a British or Indonesian passport. If Obama used a British passport, then he was born in Kenya which was a British colony at the time of his birth (then he would NOT be a natural born American citizen). If Obama used a Indonesian passport, then his citizenship was changed to Indonesian as a minor child and he thus lost natural born American citizenship in that way....... Is Obama lying and guilty of fraud?”

[BuckeyeTexan]

It is prudent to pursue multiple paths of ineligibility rather than bet the farm on one path. You can bet that Team Obama is trying to cover their bases on all fronts.

The Indonesian and British citizenship theories are alike in one aspect and that is that the other countries’ laws and regulations are not binding on our courts. If the definition of natural born citizen is born in the U.S. to two citizen parents, then it doesn’t matter whether or not Obama Sr. and Dunham were married. The only relevant fact in that theory is that Obama Sr. was most certainly not a U.S. citizen. Therefore Obama Jr. was not born to two citizen parents. The marriage is irrelevant.

Birthers have favorite theories. Preferring one theory over another is a natural consequence of having such a diverse group of people, but that doesn’t mean that another birther’s theory is irrelevant or a red herring. Donofrio’s theory is relevant and valid. Polarik’s theory is relevant and valid. Both should be pursued to their end.

Likewise, those who have given up on removing Obama from office this term and instead want to focus on enacting state laws to establish a procedure for verifying eligibility are pursing a path to ineligibility. Their preferred method of ousting Obama is no less relevant or valid than any other method.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Polarik,

It is understandable that Tonchen’s dismissive comment regarding the COLB forgery would offend you because you’ve invested countless hours and immeasurable effort to prove the COLB forgery. Clearly Tonchen is uninformed on that subject and hasn’t taken enough time to investigate it.

Let me say publicly that my posting Tonchen’s primer was never intended to dismiss or discredit your work on the forgery. Neither was it intended to portray the British citizenship issue as the only valid theory. Neither was it intended to imply that Obama has a valid Hawaiian birth certificate.

I support both theories/methods and think they should both be fully explored. Obviously people on this forum feel strongly about one particular path to ineligibility and that’s to be expected.

[real_patriotic_american]

Interesting. Verrrrrrrrrrrry interesting.

Excerpt: “In effect, Obama, by way of his Press Secretary, just admitted to committing felony document fraud as what is posted on the Internet is a forgery, a false government identification document in violation of Federal statutes.”

[Frantzie]

Kudos to you Polarik for your tireless efforts.