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Is there a Life On Mars Conspiracy?
Times Online ^ | 06/11/2009 | Michael Brooks

Posted on 06/17/2009 10:38:00 AM PDT by Scythian

Some pesky scientists have just pointed out an appalling design error in NASA’s latest attempts to find life on Mars. This is beginning to look like a conspiracy. Does someone not want us to find life on Mars?

NASA has tried looking for signs of life on Mars precisely once, in the 1976 Viking mission. The result was positive. The reason nobody says there is life on Mars is that another experiment, part of the same mission, couldn’t find any carbon-based “organic” chemicals in Martian soil. This, NASA decided, overruled the other result: with no carbon present, there could be no microbes living on or under the surface of Mars.

Last year, the Phoenix lander repeated the carbon search and failed to find organic molecules. The problem is, we know that there ought to be organic molecules on Mars. Asteroid and comet impacts will have put them there. So what’s going on?

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; mars
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1 posted on 06/17/2009 10:38:00 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
This last line of the article sure is something.

So, the question remains: have attempts to explore Mars been secretly scuppered by religious scientists keen to keep planet Earth “special”?
2 posted on 06/17/2009 10:40:08 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian
Maybe giant robots are coming...


3 posted on 06/17/2009 10:40:28 AM PDT by wastedyears (Rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make ya strut)
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To: Scythian

The problem is, we know that there ought to be organic molecules on Mars. Asteroid and comet impacts will have put them there.


What?

And where would the asteroids and comets get “organic” molecules? Let’s assume the didn’t get them from the Earth (the only place we currently know for sure “organic” stuff exists.) Why would there be not just an expectation, but an assumption that asteroids contain organic material?


4 posted on 06/17/2009 10:48:55 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Obama hasn't just open Pandora's box, he has thrown us inside and closed the lid.)
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To: Scythian

Mars.... Needs... Women...


5 posted on 06/17/2009 10:49:12 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: wastedyears
Maybe giant robots are coming...

If they were doing that, wouldn't that deposit carbon-based “organic” chemicals in Martian soil?

6 posted on 06/17/2009 10:51:09 AM PDT by humblegunner (™)
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To: Scythian; GodGunsGuts; metmom
"This is beginning to look like a conspiracy. Does someone not want us to find life on Mars?"

No, quite to the contrary; NASA has a vested interest in faking life on Mars to keep the sham rolling, and their over-generous salaries flowing.

7 posted on 06/17/2009 10:55:14 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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8 posted on 06/17/2009 10:56:13 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Scythian
I'm puzzled. Yes, meteorites found on Earth have organic molecules in them. I'd expect these same molecules to be found on Mars as a result of meteor bombardment.

The perchlorates in the soil would oxidize the carbon in the organic molecules, especially if heated. But the carbon won't disappear. It will still be present as carbon dioxide. Didn't the experiment test for that?

9 posted on 06/17/2009 10:58:42 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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10 posted on 06/17/2009 10:59:20 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Foolish Earthlings!

While you look to Mars, the Mushroom People are planning to attack Cincinnatti!


11 posted on 06/17/2009 10:59:57 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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Quick...we need someone to photoshop Tourist Guy on Mars...


12 posted on 06/17/2009 11:00:49 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Brookhaven
I think when the term “organic” is used in chemistry it simply means “carbon based”. Carbon based molecules can exist without life but life doesn't exist with carbon molecules.
13 posted on 06/17/2009 11:05:48 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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You are mistaking “organic” chemicals to mean those produced by living beings. It’s not true. Benzene is an organic compound. It can be produced in the lab out of completely inorganic compounds. Same happens with asteroids and ther objects in space, when carbon, oxygen and hydrogen molecules interact.


14 posted on 06/17/2009 11:06:27 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: editor-surveyor

They don’t need to fake the discovery of life — they’ve been quite successful in establishing an entitlement for Mars exploration based merely on the promise to look for it.


15 posted on 06/17/2009 11:09:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Scythian
Creationists have sneaking into the NASA labs at night and fiddling with the controls on the machinery.
16 posted on 06/17/2009 11:09:30 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
We need to shoop the Katrina guy into a Martian panorama.


17 posted on 06/17/2009 11:17:21 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: Scythian

No doubt by that legion of creationists that infect NASA these days. </sarc>


18 posted on 06/17/2009 11:19:18 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
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To: Scythian

Christians believe in a Creator God.

More examples of creation would only enhance His coolness.


19 posted on 06/17/2009 11:20:03 AM PDT by marron
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Which religion? There are Hindu Scientists, Buddhist, Muslim, Christian, Jewish.......


20 posted on 06/17/2009 11:21:55 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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