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SPECIAL LIBERTY ALERT!
The Liberty Sphere ^ | May 30, 2009 | Anthony G. Martin

Posted on 05/30/2009 3:57:00 PM PDT by Welshman007

WHITE HOUSE MOVES TO SILENCE CRITICS OF THE STIMULUS PROGRAM! FRONTAL ATTACK ON FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS!

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To: Welshman007
Amendment 1
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

How in ANYBODY'S interpretation is this legal? The US Supreme Court has applied this to the Executive Branch as well as the Judicial Banch. Yes, all this does RIGHT NOW is to make everybody equal to registered lobbyist but what a jaw-dropping policy released on a late Saturday afternoon. Do you suppose thsy think we won't notice?

61 posted on 05/30/2009 6:14:27 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: concerned about politics
Is there such a thing as a presidential recall vote?

Sure is. But I'd be banned for mentioning it.

62 posted on 05/30/2009 6:18:42 PM PDT by cayuga (We lost the soapbox to MSM bias, and the ballot box to ACORN. The cartridge box is all we have left.)
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To: Tammy8

“”I know there must be unhappy people who will not take this well at all.””

Unhappy won’t be the term to describe us if this is true!


63 posted on 05/30/2009 6:31:30 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush
Unhappy won’t be the term to describe us if this is true!

It's on the white house website. www.whitehouse.gov

64 posted on 05/30/2009 6:34:48 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Typical_Whitey
I have to believe that there is something brewing underground. Out of 350 million people there has to be a hard core group that can put this nation back on the right track with the right motivation.

You have to admire the timing of this coup though. They waited until all of us old vets were too old to revolt and the general population was filled with bloated, self serving whiners that never spent a moment on a patriotic thought, much less on developing any skills to defend their freedom.

65 posted on 05/30/2009 7:14:58 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: mkmensinger

That’s for sure.


66 posted on 05/30/2009 7:18:31 PM PDT by BrianE (The Republican party may not exist 40 years from now-host Fred Flannigan WKRS 1220 am on Oct. of 04)
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To: concerned about politics
"Is there such a thing as a presidential recall vote?"

He is NOT the President. IN fact, at this moment, we have no President. We have the power to remove his unlawful butt from the White House RIGHT NOW. It's going to take ACTION on OUR part.

I'm going to post this so that EVERYONE who thinks we are powerless to do something about this understands how best to go about it. We need to find the legal remedy enabling us to charge our representatives with disobeying their oaths of office and start removing them one by one. Here is the case.

Exhibit A, The Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 reads as follows:

" ”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Exhibit B U. S. Code, CITE: 3USC19

TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT, CHAPTER 1- PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES

Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act

”(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President. “

Exhibit C: U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials:

” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

Exhibit D: The Electoral Vote Counting Act of 1877:

The process currently provides that someone “challenge” the electoral votes during a short, specified time frame while the Electoral College votes are opened and tabulated. This process does not cover challenges to "eligibility" qualifications. In fact, if this act pretends to do so in the manner in which it prescribes, it is unconstitutional. Any act of this sort that does not require that qualifications be presented by the President elect serves to undercut the provisions in the Constitution itself. No act that does not support the Constitution is constitutional. In order to change the requirements of the Twentieth amendment, one would need to pass another amendment. An “Act” doesn’t cut the mustard.

The portion in bold stating “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify” in section three is particularly interesting in that it plainly seems to infer that a “qualification” of some sort must be made in order to serve as President. Certainly, one cannot argue that it does not require a qualification process for one to “qualify”. To infer that the lack of a “specified” qualification process means that stated eligibility “qualifications” for the office of president can be ignored is fallacious. The wording of this passage in the twentieth amendment clearly infers that a qualification is required, regardless of how this is done.

There is only one set of qualifications listed anywhere in the Constitution that are not health related and they are listed in Article two, section one.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a president elect must present evidence that he meets it’s requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented? If this was done, why would we not have the right to verify and inspect it under the freedom of information act?

If it was NOT done, then under the provisions of the twentieth amendment, Barrack Obama has “failed to qualify” and should not be serving as president of the United States of America.

Based upon the above, I conclude that:

1. We currently have a vacancy at President because no one has yet “qualified” as required in the Twentieth amendment. The terms "The President elect shall have failed to qualify" clearly places this burden upon the President elect and not on someone raising their hand in objection.

2. Anyone serving in Congress (see “Congress” in bold in Exhibit A), or anyone who is currently serving under the oath of office in Article six has "standing" and can DEMAND that their oaths be met by receiving proper “qualifying” documentation from Mr. Obama. This charade at the time of counting the Electoral College votes does not limit their ability to do so at any time they so choose. The very fact that they are duty-bound by oath to "support" the Constitution REQUIRES them to respond to any and all attacks against it. No judge can deny any of them the standing to do so. It would ask them to break the law in their effort to enforce the law.

3. We need to start pressing legal charges against all of our local representatives and senators covered by the oath of office in Article six for disobeying their oaths to support the Constitution as it pertains to the language of section three of the Twentieth amendment. Put PRESSURE on them to represent the document that gives them their authority in the first place. We are looking into how best to do this down here. We all should be looking into this approach. NOW.

67 posted on 05/30/2009 7:44:45 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: berdie

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68 posted on 05/30/2009 7:51:24 PM PDT by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: Big_Harry
I like your tagline but infidel is a Latin based word used when talking about unbelievers of Christianity. It was usually used about Moslems and Saracens(same thing). It was first used in it's present form by the English in the 1400's.

Yes, it's true. The Muslims stole that word from the Western Civilization just like Mohammed tried to hijack the religion of the Christians and Jews. Just like those so called Palestinians claiming Israel. Well, the Jews had Israel first and won a lot of it once more via war when attacked by the Muslims.

The Muslims like to claim a lot of things that aren't theirs, like Spain, Jerusalem, etc., the list goes on and on.

What's funny is a so called Palestinian trying to pronounce Palestine but calling it most usually, Falestine. There is no "p" in Arabic so how did they name it Palestine? They didn't.

Anywho, the Muslims are the infidels.

69 posted on 05/30/2009 10:40:03 PM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

In today’s meaning and in my tagline, It is the believers in Christ who are called “infidels” by the muzzies, but I appreciate the history.


70 posted on 05/31/2009 5:04:54 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: Big_Harry

Actually, I still call them infidels. Even when I lived in the Middle East. :) I was a precocious child. :)


71 posted on 05/31/2009 5:45:32 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: allmost

I know this Congress won’t impeach BHO, but these are extraordinary times - Jefferson foresaw that the People would have to do it for themselves. We have to get creative before it all goes to Hell literally.


72 posted on 05/31/2009 11:08:52 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san
I don't see any good outcomes here. We end up with a fascist (hierarchical communist) dictatorial regime, or bloody anarchy. The middle path, if there is one, would take an extraordinary turn of events judging by the breathtaking speed of control and oppression this group has taken thus far IMO.
73 posted on 05/31/2009 11:23:01 AM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

Obama knows he has a very short time to do all the damage he can, so that is the explanation for the breakneck speed to role out all his Changes for the country. By the time people know what hit them, it will be too late for a lot f it. Then we’ll have the 2010 elections, and hopefully many of the Destroyers will be thrown out of Congress. If not, then there truly is no hope, but lots more Change.


74 posted on 05/31/2009 2:07:37 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san
We are on the outside looking in here. There is a lot going on behind the scenes that we may never hear about. It is the nature of the office. He's been in office a little over four months.

(taking a breath). Okay, better. The banks have been taken over, the ones that haven't are either too small to be immediately signifigant or kept on such a short leash with new evolving rules and regulations that they might as well be government owned. The American automotive industry, Ford being the exception, is essentially one big socialist entity at this point. War vets, Church goers, pro lifers, etc. have been deemed by DHS to be terror threats. Iran, Norh Korea and God knows who else have all ramped up WMD development to it's highest possible level. Unregestered lobbyists, anyone who contacts there Representative concerning any piece of legislation, are now per government policy to be censored. I could go on, but it's truly depressing.

It's been a little over four months.

Any estimate to the damage that will be wrought by mid term election, if we have them, will take many years to fix. If it is salvagable at all.

75 posted on 05/31/2009 4:46:47 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

I should add, as a caveat, unless something unpredictable happens which changes the current dynamic in D.C.


76 posted on 05/31/2009 4:50:15 PM PDT by allmost
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“...we will expand the restriction on oral communications to cover all persons, not just federally registered lobbyists..."



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77 posted on 06/01/2009 6:51:57 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: concerned about politics

...Can you say “Top secret.”, “The need to know.”, peons!!!

...Getting closer to using the MF and CS words on everything I respond to, but, I’ll save it for .gov messages...


78 posted on 06/01/2009 7:17:46 AM PDT by gargoyle (...66.7% , A good round number...)
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To: Big_Harry

Last week, the man checking me out at the grocery store said he was on the way to Cabella’s to buy ammunition, since he’d paid off his credit card. He said he’d been stocking up in order to be prepared for when such purchases are no longer allowed.


79 posted on 06/01/2009 7:23:30 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: bamahead; MeekOneGOP; The Spirit Of Allegiance; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; Jack Black

Bump & Ping


80 posted on 06/01/2009 7:38:46 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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