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Obama: Euthanasia of the elderly may be necessary
Doug Ross@Journal & NY Times ^ | April 30, 2009 | Doug Ross

Posted on 05/01/2009 4:01:03 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY


Gee, socialized medicine sounds great -- don't you think so, grandma and grandpa?

THE PRESIDENT: ...I actually think that the tougher issue around medical care — it’s a related one — is what you do around things like end-of-life care —

Yes, where it’s $20,000 for an extra week of life.

THE PRESIDENT: Exactly. And I just recently went through this. I mean, I’ve told this story, maybe not publicly, but when my grandmother got very ill during the campaign, she got cancer; it was determined to be terminal. And about two or three weeks after her diagnosis she fell, broke her hip. It was determined that she might have had a mild stroke, which is what had precipitated the fall.

So now she’s in the hospital, and the doctor says, Look, you’ve got about — maybe you have three months, maybe you have six months, maybe you have nine months to live. Because of the weakness of your heart, if you have an operation on your hip there are certain risks that — you know, your heart can’t take it. On the other hand, if you just sit there with your hip like this, you’re just going to waste away and your quality of life will be terrible.

And she elected to get the hip replacement and was fine for about two weeks after the hip replacement, and then suddenly just — you know, things fell apart.

I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost. I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; dunham; euthanasia; madelyndunham; moralabsolutes; obama; obamatruthfile; prolife
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1 posted on 05/01/2009 4:01:03 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Soros is big on the euthanasia idea, his orgs have been pushing the idea for years. He thinks we should provide purely pallative care and no treatment if the illness is terminal.


2 posted on 05/01/2009 4:03:30 PM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Prostate cancer and your age 60?

Suck it up!

3 posted on 05/01/2009 4:03:44 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama: Euthanasia MURDER of the elderly may be necessary

Just gave it the correct terminology.

4 posted on 05/01/2009 4:04:59 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ You cannot fix STUPID, but you can VOTE it out of office.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I guess test and slaughter won’t be far behind when there is a severe disease outbreak.


5 posted on 05/01/2009 4:05:07 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Typical Marxist mentality. Money is more important than the life of a person. With Marxist DemocRATS, it’s always about the money. Always. Money is everything. It’s their god.


6 posted on 05/01/2009 4:05:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Politicians always love to talk about "hard work." What the hell would they know about it?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost. I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.”

Well isn’t that special. The rulers such as zero will, of course, retain that option. After all, they’re all millionaires from gaming the socialist system that they’ve set up (in this case in Chicago).

We, on the other hand, won’t have that option. And once they start making these rationing decisions, how long do you think it will be until “potential contribution to society” (i.e., being a good socialist subject) and/or connections (i.e., being a good socialist lapdog or thug) will become a deciding factor?


7 posted on 05/01/2009 4:05:41 PM PDT by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Besides the obvious anti-life overtones of this, there is the fact that doctors are often wrong or they impose self-fulfilling prophecies upon the patient (e.g. the Terricide of a patient who shows no meaningful response because she’s sensually deprived, the doctor already having deemed that no meaningful response is possible).


8 posted on 05/01/2009 4:05:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: piytar

So why didn’t he donate a few bucks to his brother in Kenya.


9 posted on 05/01/2009 4:06:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
was fine for about two weeks after the hip replacement, and then suddenly just — you know, things fell apart.

I have wondered about the convenience of his grandmother's death.

10 posted on 05/01/2009 4:06:41 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ You cannot fix STUPID, but you can VOTE it out of office.)
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To: jazminerose

When Soros speaks, Comrade Obama listens.


11 posted on 05/01/2009 4:06:54 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: jazminerose

Tell Soros he’s free to wish that upon himself, but leave the rest of us the hell alone.


12 posted on 05/01/2009 4:07:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder how the AARP crowd feels. AARP will lose members earlier too by the way.


13 posted on 05/01/2009 4:07:46 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: b4its2late

The membership will be split, but the leaders will undoubtedly go lefty.


14 posted on 05/01/2009 4:09:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why can’t that asshat just answer a question?

That’s a rhetorical question.


15 posted on 05/01/2009 4:09:23 PM PDT by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yes, but Geithner tells us that we should be focused more on what we DO rather than what we EARN.


16 posted on 05/01/2009 4:09:40 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Earth: It's not your mother, it's just a big rock.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

>Money is more important than the life of a person.

Unless the person id a felon or illegal alien... [/cynic]


17 posted on 05/01/2009 4:09:55 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: AU72

I’m 55. If I get cancer at this point, I die. And I have insurance.

But then, I know I will be going to be with the Lord. If I thought this life was “it”, well, I’d have a different perspective.

Euthenasia is where you actually kill a person. Denying costly treatment is different. It brings up interesting moral dilemmas, but, to give an interesting hypothetical, would you spend $400,000 for surgery on a person that is diagnosed to die anyway within the week? How about a month or a year? Where is the line drawn?

Fact is, a culture cannot survive if half of it’s citizens receive healthcare in their final year(s) that costs two to ten times more than they earned their entire life. It is simply not sustainable.

So what DO you do?

And I am only asking, because I don’t have a detailed answer myself.


18 posted on 05/01/2009 4:10:11 PM PDT by RobRoy (I'm wearing a cast on one hand. My spelling and clarity may not be up to par right now.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So, Obama has no problem the public financing of abortion but would limited financing for the elderly...or, hospices?


19 posted on 05/01/2009 4:12:17 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: piytar
“I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost. I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.”

Notice though, that he didn't. He was perfectly content with letting us pay for it.

20 posted on 05/01/2009 4:13:17 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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