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Texas Does Not Have Enough Land
Canada Free Press ^ | April 26, 2009 | Richard Geno

Posted on 04/27/2009 4:08:24 AM PDT by Scanian

Recently Governor Rick Perry rattled the cages in Washington when he suggested that Texas might at some point be so disgusted with Washington’s repeated violations of the United States Constitution that they might want to secede from the union. It stems from the one amendment to the Constitution that gets the least attention - the Tenth Amendment.

The Tenth Amendment enumerates the rights of the states and the people. Specifically it states that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Shortly after Virginia ratified the Constitution back in 1788, New York and Rhode Island made similar claims to their ratification document.

On June 26, 1788, Virginia’s elected delegates met to ratify the Constitution. In their ratification document, they said, “The People of Virginia declare and make known that the powers granted under the Constitution being derived from the People of the United States may be resumed by them whensoever the same shall be perverted to their injury or oppression and that every power not granted thereby remains with them and at their will.”

The original states made it clear that if the federal government exceeded the delegated rights, they had the right to implement their rights. If every state did not think it had the right to secede, there never would have been a union. Thomas Jefferson said, “Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: perry; relocation; secession; statesrights
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To: Scanian
Look at a map. Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming, the Dakotas. Throw in like minded states Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, the Carolinas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia.

With no welfare payments to parasitical urban areas, vast cheap energy resources of shale oil, coal and natural gas, the new country is an energy colossus. Cheap energy and unhindered non union labor translates to prosperity and wealth.

What would the energy poor states of the midwest, the west and the east do?

41 posted on 04/27/2009 8:50:06 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: TexasNative2000

So what’s the hold up?

Get 8 more Conservative Senators in there!


42 posted on 04/27/2009 8:51:28 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: Mikey_1962
Texas Can Secede if it wants to as well.

Telling Texas it can't secede is like asking your employee if you can fire him

Secussion is a States right issue not a federal one.

43 posted on 04/27/2009 9:07:16 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (We are all equal here but some of us are more equal than others.)
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To: Rightly Biased
Secussion is a States right issue not a federal one.

There was a big ruckus about 150 years ago about that, IIRC.

44 posted on 04/27/2009 9:12:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yep there was....

And we never really solved it did we?


45 posted on 04/27/2009 9:14:00 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (We are all equal here but some of us are more equal than others.)
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To: Rightly Biased
And we never really solved it did we?

Depends on which side your loyalties lie I guess.

46 posted on 04/27/2009 9:25:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: laotzu

Thanks. My aunt lives in Texas. She was originally from West Tennessee where I was born, and she married a Native Texan and has lived down there ever since. She is in her 80’s and every time I read a headline or hear a blurb about some intruder in Texas being shot, I think to myself “uh-oh, the shooter just could be Aunt Mildred”. It never is, though, but she keeps her pistol handy just in case and so does her daughter. Ha. That’s Texas for you, and a whole lot Tennessee as well.


47 posted on 04/27/2009 5:20:02 PM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!)
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To: prisoner6; Peanut Gallery
Looks like we got us a convoy!

Yo ho ho and a thousands trucks...

48 posted on 04/27/2009 6:42:13 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Naturalized Texan)
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To: DCBryan1
Wow...what would be their names?

I suspect your question was meant for another poster.

As for me; you do not subdivide heaven.

49 posted on 04/28/2009 6:32:12 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: Former Proud Canadian
What would the energy poor states of the midwest, the west and the east do?

Buy the energy, of course. What do you think they do now?

50 posted on 04/28/2009 6:34:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Nosterrex
An independent and properous Texas would be the libs worst nightmare.

Secession would saddle Texas with a lot of problems you're not thinking of. And which this article ignores.

51 posted on 04/28/2009 6:38:57 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Umm, it's not quite that simple. Right now they are buying it with US dollars. The US dollar is supported by the productivity of the taxpayers and the full faith, credit, and taxing power of the US government. So, what do the eastern states in particular produce that contributes to the value of the dollar? How much real wealth does Wall Street produce? Do they have mines and mills that produce wealth? Factories producing consumer goods? Or, are they net users of the wealth producing abilities of the other states.

Think what would happen if those energy rich, agriculturally rich, non-union states that I mentioned left the union and took their tax money with them. These are states that produce real wealth in the form of energy and food. They produce lots of it and they produce it cheaply. What happens to the other areas of the country if they have to, in essence, barter for that energy. What do they have of value to trade? Just asking.

52 posted on 04/28/2009 7:00:17 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Right now they are buying it with US dollars.

And they would continue to do so.

The US dollar is supported by the productivity of the taxpayers and the full faith, credit, and taxing power of the US government.

And it would continue to be.

So, what do the eastern states in particular produce that contributes to the value of the dollar?

I'd suggest you check the breakdown of GDP by state. Nine of the ten largest state economies voted for Obama last year, Texas was the only exception. The wealth is there, and the goods need to be purchased.

53 posted on 04/28/2009 7:51:10 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Well, secession presents a daunting list of problems. Primarily what to do about the "common defense" and the "common currency". I submit to you that if Texas and the other states I mentioned went off and formed their own country, they would take their taxes and wealth with them. The US dollar would lose a whole lot of value, in fact, could become worthless. What medium of exchange would the remaining states use? What would the eastern (energy poor, agriculturally poor, high labor cost) states use to create wealth. They would need something of value to trade for their food, energy, and manufactured goods.

It is a scary thought to contemplate a world without a US dollar. But, consider for a moment, the direction the present administration is taking. When asked how much money he planned to borrow, Obama stated on national television "as much as we can". If that doesn't make your hair stand up, nothing will. That's why the talk of secession is starting. The productive states do not want to be stuck with the bill.

54 posted on 04/28/2009 10:46:59 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

What would those problems be? What does is benefit a person to gain the whole world, but lose his freedom?


55 posted on 04/28/2009 1:09:42 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex
What would those problems be?

Where to begin? Let's start with budget. Some 31% of the Texas state budget comes from the federal government. That goes away. The article talks about keeping social security for those receiving it, but not making them pay any kind of income taxes - including that flat tax they talk about. Around 2.96 million Texans receive some sort of Social Security payment - old age, disability, survivors, whatever. That's over 12% of your population and congratulations, you just picked up that tab. On the plus side, you won't have to help fund any other state's social security, but your flat tax, levied on whoever is left, will have to fund it all. Then there's the national debt. Texas has 7.8% of the total U.S. population so 7.8% of the $12 trillion debt is $936 billion you now owe. Texas total debt just went up by a factor of 45. You will now have a defense budget you have to fund. You'll get some military equipment from the U.S. - 7.8% of the total. You'll have to buy the rest as well as pay for the troops to man them. You will have to establish and fund diplomatic service, your own air traffic control, your own border patrol, your own infrastructure through your own taxes.

Getting the picture? Whoever said freedom isn't free knew what they were talking about.

56 posted on 04/28/2009 1:29:43 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Le Chien Rouge

I’m celebrating my 20th year in Texas.


57 posted on 04/28/2009 1:31:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Nosterrex

Late to the thread, but I think Arizona might go with Texas - we can tunnel under New Mexico, like the Palestinians do...


58 posted on 04/28/2009 1:38:16 PM PDT by SRJeff (Another day older and deeper in debt)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Paid for with what?

Would you believe taxes which we now send to Washington that are pi$$ed away on liberal BS.

59 posted on 04/28/2009 2:01:38 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Your assumptions are way off base...who says we would have to take a portion of the US debt with us...think again..that’s why we would leave! You show little understanding of a real world scenario and even less of us Texan’s grit and determination.


60 posted on 04/28/2009 2:09:41 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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