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To: pissant

This is the same kinda thing that caused us to think that the KOS kiddies were nuts during the Bush years.


4 posted on 04/26/2009 8:58:04 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: TWohlford

Except Bush actually released all of his records. College, military, health, etc. And the MSM jackals harped on him until he did.

Obama’s $10 birth certificate, that he has spent 100s of 100s to conceal. No big deal, right?


7 posted on 04/26/2009 9:00:18 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: TWohlford

Thank you. Another person who gets it.

They’re called ‘birthers’.


8 posted on 04/26/2009 9:00:22 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: TWohlford
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in in her village in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in her town but rather that he is a "son of this village". If taken alone, she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.
11 posted on 04/26/2009 9:02:38 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: TWohlford

I agree.


12 posted on 04/26/2009 9:03:32 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TWohlford
You're nto even close. Name one actual KOS accusation that was substantiated by a specific requirement in the United States Constitution which Bush refused to answer to and in fact spent more than a million to avoid answering to. You naysayers may think you're sophisticated, but in fact you're just O bow ma's useful idiots. He has pissed on the Constitution and gotten even the subpreme court to go along with it. That puts you in 'high company', albeit a disgusting 'go along to get along' mob.


16 posted on 04/26/2009 9:05:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: TWohlford

It’s funny how the “social moderates” are always the ones pushing the leftist point of view. They’ll tell you “I’m a conservative, except on social matters”, and you think “well, maybe that’s reasonable”, but then they’re always the ones hating on stuff like this, as well.

Being a “moderate” (i.e. liberal in the truest sense of the word) is like a nuclear bomb; you can’t confine it to one area of your politics, there’s all kinds of collateral damage affecting your whole politics. You can’t be “moderate” in one area.

Just what do you think you are going to achieve by hating on this issue? You’re not going to stop it, all you’re going to do is give the left ammunition. It’s attitudes such as yours that have got us where we are today.


22 posted on 04/26/2009 9:07:51 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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