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Victory in Fight Against Hate Crimes!
The Voice Magazine ^ | April 22, 2009 | Dr. Gary L. Cass

Posted on 04/22/2009 10:19:54 AM PDT by truthnomatterwhat

Victory! Because of your calls, the House Judiciary Committee has agreed to hold a hearing on hate crimes bill, H.R.1913!

The original plan of the chair of the committee, Representative John Conyers, was to move this bill quietly out of the committee without a hearing, then on to the full House and get it passed with as little fan fare as possible. The hearing is scheduled for 10:15 AM Wednesday of this week.

Call the judiciary committee members and tell them to vote NO on hate crimes. For a list see the link below.

Nations where these kinds of "hate laws" have been passed have resulted in the loss of religious liberty and...

(Excerpt) Read more at thevoicemagazine.com ...


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1 posted on 04/22/2009 10:19:55 AM PDT by truthnomatterwhat
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To: truthnomatterwhat

“Hate Speech” is a double edged sword.


2 posted on 04/22/2009 10:23:22 AM PDT by Ben Mugged ("You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom".)
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To: Ben Mugged

More like a razor held at your throat by a Leftist.


3 posted on 04/22/2009 10:25:55 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: truthnomatterwhat
keep the pressure on the law makers ... they do respond for their own self interest. They are only to happy to pass legislation behind the scenes, when they can do so and get away with it..
4 posted on 04/22/2009 10:29:57 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

I hit a homo because they get in my face and start pushing me
I get 5 years nick

they hit me for no reason but because I am against them and they get a warning

yea these hate crime bills are really fair, so fair they’re like affirmative action

to think MLK said he wanted a color blind country, seems the loony left have forgot about that


5 posted on 04/22/2009 10:29:58 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

So it will be against the law to hate someone and say it out loud. Isn’t that special!


6 posted on 04/22/2009 10:30:03 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: 1010RD

>>More like a razor held at your throat by a Leftist.

That’s because the leftists define what is hate speech.

i.e. me calling Obama socialist thug - racist hate speech
Jesse Jackson calling NYC “Hymietown” - protected speech


7 posted on 04/22/2009 10:30:07 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1913

Text of bill.


8 posted on 04/22/2009 10:33:13 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: truthnomatterwhat

just one small battle, though


9 posted on 04/22/2009 10:33:30 AM PDT by myaccount2009
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To: truthnomatterwhat

It will be interesting to see if States can pass laws criminalizing “instigation” of hate crimes. As an example, if a black person and a white person fight, the black person is free to scream racial epithets at the white person without fear of being prosecuted for a hate crime.

In short, such prosecutions are refused. However, if *in response* to racial epithets thrown at him, the white person responds in kind, then they most certainly will be prosecuted for a “hate crime”.

Since there is inherent and hypocritical injustice at the federal level, then can States create a “hate crimes instigation” law? That is, in this case, the black person would *not* be prosecuted for a hate crime per se, but would be prosecuted for instigating, or causing to happen, a hate crime.

This is legally interesting, and might be looked at in the same light as when an armed robbery takes place and someone is killed, *all* of the armed robbers, not just the trigger man, can be charged with murder, even if it is one of the robbers who is killed.

So the black person could receive just as much criminal time for creating a hate crime, as the white person would serve for committing the hate crime.

And thus fairness and balance would be restored to the legal system.


10 posted on 04/22/2009 10:34:56 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: truthnomatterwhat

This cup of poison has passed us by for now. Of course, the Leftists won’t give up on their desire. This isn’t about victims - it’s about making it possible to prosecute and ruin those who would speak truth about the scourge of homosexuality.


11 posted on 04/22/2009 10:35:04 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: truthnomatterwhat
ok, so is that Wed. of this week meaning today or this coming week? If it is today then the hearing is probably over.

Now the question is when does the committee vote on it?

12 posted on 04/22/2009 10:47:30 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

and Islam, I’m sure.


13 posted on 04/22/2009 10:52:32 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: truthnomatterwhat

How will this bill relate to our future tea parties? I mean, the signs at the tea parties?


14 posted on 04/22/2009 10:53:41 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: Ben Mugged

Wait a monment .............. What about the raw hatetred being exhibited by the gay community and the MSM toward Miss California right now?


15 posted on 04/22/2009 10:58:26 AM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: truthnomatterwhat

This is a battle that must be fought unless you want homos intruding on every aspect of your life.


16 posted on 04/22/2009 11:00:57 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: fella

My contention is they are practicing hate speech.


17 posted on 04/22/2009 11:01:05 AM PDT by Ben Mugged ("You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom".)
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To: truthnomatterwhat

The RATS were going to use treachery and deception to pass the bil.


18 posted on 04/22/2009 11:05:28 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 1010RD

It is not hate crimes it is making some people more equal than others and it is designed to stifle dissent and a tool of political terrorism against people who do not agree with you.


19 posted on 04/22/2009 11:14:16 AM PDT by Frantzie (Bumper Sticker idea: "Remember when Bush was President & Americans had jobs?")
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To: Frantzie

I agree. I like the Bill of Rights as originally written.


20 posted on 04/22/2009 11:17:42 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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