Israeli Scientists Make a Major Hydrogen Fuel Breakthrough

Israel National News/Yidwithlid ^ | 4/7/09 | Yidwithlid

[keat]

“hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe”

Closest naturally occuring source: The Sun

Have fun retreiveing it, don't forget the coppertone.

[Mr. Jazzy]

I pray its true.

There is NOTHING I would love more than to see the tiny state of Israel come up with a way to make a large portion of the oil the arabs have completely USELESS!

Hahahahaha!

[piytar]

“provides important steps in overcoming this challenge”

People have been making “important steps” in this field for a couple decades...

[GraceG]

The great thing would be that they were put in the absolute worst area of the middles, little oil, and they used their brains to come up with a better way of creating fuel.

[TalonDJ]

it would take millenniums to run out

You make it out of water. It turns back into water... but it will run out in millenniums? I wonder what the moronic reporter things is going to happen then. Will the oceans be dry? I laughed out loud when I read that line.

[Hiddigeigei]

Up until now the major problem with creating hydrogen fuel cells is the chemical process needed to seperate the hydrogen and the oxygen used as much energy as it produced. The Weizmann Institute in Israel may have found a way to solve that problem:
Good heavens! They've come up wth the perpetual motion machine.

[ml/nj]

Normally I would dismiss the idea that someone could produce hydrogen from water using less energy than one gets by oxidizing the hydrogen produced. But if it's scientists from the Weizmann Institute in Israel, maybe there's a shot. They aren't quacks.

If people think the A-rabs want to destroy Israel because of so-called "Palestinians," or because they are Joooooos, just wait until they start producing hydrogen from water!

ML/NJ

[M.K. Borders]

The ocean is a tad bit closer.

[keat]

No H there, just H20.

[RKV]

Hydrogen fires, as from a leak from a cryogenic H2 tank or a fuel cell are incredibly nasty. The flame is hot and barely visible. H2 is no panacea. Properly used, fine, but lots of engineering needed.

[DannyTN]

If only the stimulus plan was building nuclear plants, we would have the energy needed to make such fuels in mass. It would be a lot better than wasting it on unproven technologies.

[OneWingedShark]

>Hydrogen fuel sells

Hydrogen fuel cells, maybe?
Or are we talking a marketing gimmick?

[frposty]

When oxygen and hydrogen combine (burn, explode), energy is released. When water is broken up into hydrogen and oxygen that same amount of energy must be put into the reaction.

The article mentions a “thermal and light driven process”. Thermal energy means something like coal, nuclear, or solar heat. Light-driven would mean the sun as in photovoltaic or photosynthetic. The first two sources are disliked by the environmentalists. Solar heat aht the last two have low energy density meaning it would take many square miles of collectors to produce a respectable amount of hydrogen fuel.

Nevertheless these guys might have a useful idea.

[montomike]

We (I mean the A gangers...a more horrid, nasty group of guys I never, ever wanted to meet again.) would make Oxygen for the bubble-heads and bleed the H2 overboard because it wasn’t really wanted on the sub.

But then again, the Oxygen fires that occurred on a couple of subs weren’t pretty either.

[OneWingedShark]

>n these cells Hydrogen is consumed by a pollution-free chemical reaction, not combustion. So the fuel cell simply combines hydrogen and oxygen chemically to produce electricity, water, and waste heat.

That IS combustion, the burning/oxidizing of Hydrogen. This reporter lacks a basic understanding of chemestry, and proofreading.

[Poison Pill]

hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, it would take millenniums to run out.

Somewhere an editor is out of work.

[barb-tex]

I do hope their chemistry is better than their spelling. Of course the energy balance comes from ol’sol.
barbra ann

[fso301]

Interesting line of research but I don’t know enough to comment any further.

[grey_whiskers]

Like, *PING*, dudes.

Cheers!