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Darwinism as Religion in a Holy War
CEH ^ | February 20, 2009

Posted on 02/20/2009 2:58:53 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Darwinism as Religion in a Holy War

Feb 19, 2009 — It might be expected that media attention on Darwin would be exceptionally high this month because of his bicentennial, but some of it seems downright religious. The adulation he has been receiving is almost embarrassing sometimes. It is only exceeded by the righteous indignation frequently expressed against intelligent design. In any other context, the fighting words of the Darwinians would be described as hate speech. Here are some recent examples:

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To: GodGunsGuts

I remember Carl Sagan saying on the t.v. program COMOS, that the cosmos was all there is or ever will be and that he might accept the idea of God, but only if He were benign and indifferent to man’s affairs.

Darwinism at its heart must be materialistic but it’s no less a religion.
And, I might add, its just as opposed to my view of the earth and creation as it is to yours.


21 posted on 02/20/2009 5:41:52 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You remember the ancient city of Babylon, so mighty that no one could imagine it going down. Though protected by water and walls thick enough on top to use for a road it fell in one night.

So that which denies God can crumble very fast and unexpectedly and by means we might not expect.

One way or another The Temple of Darwinism is coming down.


22 posted on 02/20/2009 6:38:09 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Do you guy’s take some sort of flowery rhetoric course where you learn how to talk like an Imam from the Ministry of Military Hogwash? Every other post is a jihadist metaphor festival — “Our pus-filled enemies from the unwashed ranks of the Evo-Cult will feel the wrath of our holy lashings and will swim in a sea of their own eyeballs as the tips of righteous swords sink their ship of lies and the HMS Creationist emerges from the fog victorious, etc., etc.”


23 posted on 02/20/2009 8:20:55 PM PST by atlaw
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To: atlaw

Hey, you’re way better at that than I am. Our “flowery” rhetoric is obviously no match for the Temple of Darwinistic Materialism d:op


24 posted on 02/20/2009 8:38:53 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


25 posted on 02/20/2009 8:46:09 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts
Now, if we can just get YEC, OEC and IDers Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, and Socialist Revolutionaries to put aside their differences to hasten the demise of neo-Darwinism the Tsarist autocracy>, all will be well with the world of origins Russian society
26 posted on 02/20/2009 11:15:07 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities. - D)
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To: GodGunsGuts

An inversion of reality GGG. You’re suffering from YEC-centrism when really you’re all just living on the margins.

For every single evidence-less polemic that you post, hundreds of scientific papers are published, reviewed and confirmed that add a little piece more to our understanding of evolutionary science. These individual facts help science refine and deepen our understanding of the natural world. Happily, science realises that it doesn’t have all the answers - unlike the YEC’ers.

Anyone who believes that death didn’t exist prior to a few thousand years ago in the face of everest of evidence for carnivorous activity or who can hang their hat on the idea that contintents can move thousands of miles in a few months is operating on the farthest margin of sanity.


27 posted on 02/21/2009 4:17:46 AM PST by Natufian (The mesolithic wasn't so bad, was it?)
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To: count-your-change

Perhaps you need to hit the books and spend a few days in the field or laboratory. Perhaps you need to get your hands dirty with some real science. To ask such a question here is to illustrate severe misunderstanding of the world. Your question cannot be answered by a sound bite.


28 posted on 02/21/2009 4:54:39 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You wish


29 posted on 02/21/2009 4:56:02 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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To: bert
And what books would you recommend I ‘hit’? What scientific truth am I to seek in field or lab?

Come on, you can share just one or two “scientific truths” with us, can't you? Just a tiny one?

And to make it easy for you, just one or two scientists that speak of “scientific truth”.

Come now, don't be shy, I'll wait if you need more time.

30 posted on 02/21/2009 6:04:33 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Caramelgal
Or until you guys and gals decide to rabidly turn on each other over your interpretations of Scripture – “my interpretation and my morals are so superior to yours; YEC, OEC, Catholicism, Mormonism, Calvinism, pre-Trib, post Trib, Revelations, the meaning of the word Heresy….blah, blah, blah.

Many of you are way too obsessed with that as it is now. One only has to lurk on the “Religion” threads to observe how deep your hatred for each other runs.

And I predict that will devour each other spiritually and intellectually long before any of you get around to factually “disproving” TOE.

Excellent post (and one that I try to remind them of on many of GGG's threads. I always like how they sneeringly use the word "religion" as it pertains to their fairy tale version of evolution. The irony, of course, being that by using "religion" almost as an insult, they are essentially saying "religions" are terrible.
31 posted on 02/21/2009 6:05:19 AM PST by whattajoke (.)
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To: count-your-change
You remember the ancient city of Babylon, so mighty that no one could imagine it going down. Though protected by water and walls thick enough on top to use for a road it fell in one night.

So that which denies God can crumble very fast and unexpectedly and by means we might not expect.

Like flying airplanes into buildings?

32 posted on 02/21/2009 6:20:35 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

I don’t think they had planes back then.


33 posted on 02/21/2009 6:23:57 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
I don’t think they had planes back then.

Holy wars change with the times.

34 posted on 02/21/2009 6:26:23 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: count-your-change

To ask such a question is in order.

As a simple task that any one should be able to comprehend with a little application of brain power, go buy a Peterson Field Guide, any one of the series will do, and head out into the field. I would suggest the Peterson Guide to the Wild Flowers. Go every Saturday afternoon for a while till you get to know your study area. Identify as many of the flowers as you can.

If you have the ability to comprehend what you see, your will need to consult other books to develop a better understanding of what you actually saw. You might even find the need to take a night school course in botany.

It takes a little more effort than sponging in a pew


35 posted on 02/21/2009 6:40:51 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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To: bert

I have spent quite a few years studying the plants and animals in my area and have become familiar with them.

Thank you for the recommendation of Peterson’s Guide but I’ve more interested myself in native edible plants and fungi, and wildflowers only if edible.

There, you see answering a question about something you stated wasn’t so hard. I’m sure you can, with your comprehension and brain power tell me what is “scientific truth” and name a scientist or two that spoke of such thing.

I mean you’re the one that said, “There is no debate. There is scientific truth and dogmatic irrational belief”.

Had I asked what is “dogmatic irrational belief”, you would’ve give an answer soon enough, so why choke on so-called “scientific truth”?

But go ahead and think on it while I wait.


36 posted on 02/21/2009 8:52:58 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Can you distinguish the members of the violet family, the golden rods? Have you observed the parts with a magnifier? are they similar or different? How are they similar or different? what about color? are they similar or different?

Perhaps your plant horizon is not adequately broad.


37 posted on 02/21/2009 9:06:20 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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To: tacticalogic
A war of ideas and view of the world. Striped to the essentials, one side views the cosmos as created by a higher intelligence, God, who is and has been active in man's affairs and that man is thus accountable to.

While the other side see all actions and results as the outworking of strictly materialistic forces and rejects the above as myth fable and quaint naivety.

It's less science than interpretation of the evidence.

38 posted on 02/21/2009 9:17:53 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
A war of ideas and view of the world.

The title says "holy war".

39 posted on 02/21/2009 9:27:20 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

That’s what holy wars really are. Two or more religious groups doing battle to survive or at least gain the upper hand.


40 posted on 02/21/2009 9:37:18 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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