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Just How Low Have Democrats Sunk – Is Killing Seniors Now Not Beyond Limits? (Breaking on Fox
canada free press ^ | Today

Posted on 02/10/2009 6:27:34 AM PST by jessduntno

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill

And instead of using those views to gain acceptance to a mental institution of his choice, Tom Daschle wants them enacted as policy. We already know who was receptive to his views; some man who promised hope and change and who did not tell us that those involved killing seniors and the very ill.

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill. And the Democrats in the Senate, including Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Arlen Specter and the two nitwits from Maine are too stupid or too reckless to put up a fuss. We, as citizens of the United States of America, can’t be. Our nation was founded on better morals than this.

The Democrats have declared war on the elderly. And they will suffer the shame of history as a result.

These are not compassionate people. These are not good people. These are despicable and outrageous beasts and the time has come to finally call them what they are.

Here America, here are the “leaders” you just elected. Cry and pray, but also take action. This nation was built on better stuff than that.

It’s a sad day when even columnists who’ve engaged “liberals” (henceforth to be called fascists) in dialogue and discussion, end up having to sound like Michael Savage, who, quite frankly, seems to be right about the uproar he’s been raising for years. But it would be an even sadder day if no one spoke up in outrage against this brutality.

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To: jessduntno

121 posted on 02/10/2009 8:36:11 AM PST by DogBarkTree (Sometimes you have to let it go in order to get a Grip.)
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To: ncpatriot

no way will the rich be allowed to pay for treatment. In the Hillarycare, the standard was one standard for all and there were penalities to docs to treated people outside the system. LIke Canada. In Britain you can get private pay but here, it would be disallowed except of course for the ruling grandees.


122 posted on 02/10/2009 8:41:10 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Til I am the last man standing

Right.

I have cancer, ovarian, with a 5 yr life expectancy of around 30 Percent. With salvage chemo, people can get four or five chemos with each relalpse, I can get a few more years and these are pretty good ones from what people tell me.

I think that without that option, I am a goner. Now who has the right to tell me to “accept” this at this point?

I have paid insurance premiums since age 18, never went to a doc till six months ago, never sick, only retired at 67 because of the cancer and will work again.

Who should tell me it is not cost effective for me to be alive to see my grandchildren, help my children, comfort my husband and see another beautiful day.

This is evil, for young and old.


123 posted on 02/10/2009 8:47:51 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

plus for young people. I suspect that premies won’t be treated if below a certain weight. And children with CP or retardation or autism won’t be treated for life threatening illnesses. And pregnancies past two probably won’t be covered.

This is so anti everything we are as a people. It is astounding. ANd crept under the radar,,I knew about the council idea to bypass debate on a public health insurance. I did not know this was in this bill.

My treatment has been the object of a study Hopkins did for the govt. It is not cost effective in the short run, but is in the long run {better survival at greater expense}. When I saw that study my heart sunk. Johbns Hopkins is helping the gov determine “cost effctive”

The short run is what the gov wants,,they don’t care if I get three years or one year or five years. They just want to cut out the costs for a person who is retired. They simply are inhuman.


124 posted on 02/10/2009 8:52:58 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl
You are being sarcastic aren't you, cajungirl? ie tht the wealthy will not be allowed to pay for treatment outside "the program"

They will find a way to get treatment.

125 posted on 02/10/2009 8:57:06 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: null and void
He kept saying he wouldn't vote for a bill that gave the government control over what medical care he could get. Never once said anything about limiting the care we could get...

... And he said it as he continues to ingratiate himself to the current "U.S. Politburo" leadership.

126 posted on 02/10/2009 9:00:41 AM PST by glennaro
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To: ncpatriot

Why is that sarcastic? It happens in Canada. It was a part of Hillarycare.

These are dems,,they breathe on making life hard for the “rich”.

The rich will leave the country for care. The middle class won’t be able to.

The grandees will have their own thing somewhere.


127 posted on 02/10/2009 9:07:15 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: jessduntno

This is your Momand your Dad they want to kill, also your sick child.


128 posted on 02/10/2009 9:17:18 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: jessduntno

bump


129 posted on 02/10/2009 9:21:14 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: ncpatriot

Doesn’t matter if you have money to pay for doctors, there will be no doctors, just like in Canada. This kind of medicine drives them away. Not only that, but doctors in Canada are overwhelmingly non-white immigrants, yep just who you want making a decision whether you live or die.


130 posted on 02/10/2009 9:27:25 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

“This is your Momand your Dad they want to kill, also your sick child.”

Added to the unborn, we can get some serious killing of innocents done here...


131 posted on 02/10/2009 9:32:21 AM PST by jessduntno (The bailout is "Obama's trillion-dollar debacle.")
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To: Moiraine

Yes, but “lower overall spending by determining which medicines, treatments and procedures are most effective-and identifying those that do not justify their high price tags.”

Is a VERY long way from “lower overall spending by determining which medicines, treatments and procedures are most effective-and identifying those that do not justify their high price tags.”


132 posted on 02/10/2009 9:38:09 AM PST by jessduntno (The bailout is "Obama's trillion-dollar debacle.")
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To: jessduntno

Sorry, should have been;

Yes, but “lower overall spending by determining which medicines, treatments and procedures are most effective-and identifying those that do not justify their high price tags.”

Is a VERY long way from “Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.”


133 posted on 02/10/2009 9:41:30 AM PST by jessduntno (The bailout is "Obama's trillion-dollar debacle.")
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To: Moiraine

“Also discussed on this thread last week:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2178025/posts

Sorry, should have been;

Yes, but “lower overall spending by determining which medicines, treatments and procedures are most effective-and identifying those that do not justify their high price tags.”

Is a VERY long way from “Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.”

The new “rules” have been introduced late Sat nite...


134 posted on 02/10/2009 9:43:25 AM PST by jessduntno (The bailout is "Obama's trillion-dollar debacle.")
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To: stentorian conservative

“Have there been any Soylent Green references yet?”

Yep...there have been a couple of servings...


135 posted on 02/10/2009 9:45:57 AM PST by jessduntno (The bailout is "Obama's trillion-dollar debacle.")
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To: Maverick68

I don’t think The Marxist Onada has a any clue what’s in the so-called stimulus bill until he hears about it in the media. He’s simply the pretty black face the left sends out there to sell us this pile of socialist doo doo.


136 posted on 02/10/2009 9:48:49 AM PST by dools007
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To: stentorian conservative
Have there been any Soylent Green references yet?

Glenn Beck made one or two today--"Soylent Green is people."

137 posted on 02/10/2009 9:49:39 AM PST by madison10
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To: jessduntno

There is no hope. That evil SOB POS knew what his plans were and he has fast tracked it in 3 weeks. I hope those 2 Maine twins and Specter rot in hell.


138 posted on 02/10/2009 9:58:56 AM PST by mojitojoe (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat)
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To: mojitojoe

“There is no hope. That evil SOB POS knew what his plans were and he has fast tracked it in 3 weeks. I hope those 2 Maine twins and Specter rot in hell.”

Sooner, rather than later...
Disclaimer; this is not to be construed as an incitement to violence, simply my own deep wishful thinking...


139 posted on 02/10/2009 10:02:08 AM PST by jessduntno (The bailout is "Obama's trillion-dollar debacle.")
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To: penelopesire

Specter on Foxnews now trying to provide cover. He is such a demented old fool! Says a ‘revision’ may be in order!

A change in order???? I am so damn mad today if I saw Spector face to face I would punch him right in the face. Damn TRAITOR. Everyone I know is ready to blow.


140 posted on 02/10/2009 10:03:26 AM PST by mojitojoe (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat)
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