Affidavit Supporting Polarik's Evidence in Keyes vs. Lingle

Keyes vs. Lingle ^ | 12/4/2008 | Sandra Ramsey Lines

[Kevmo]

1. I am Sandra Ramsey Lines, With an adddres at... I am a former federal examiner and law enforcement officer. I began training as a forensic document examiner in 1991. I am a Certified Diplomat of Forensic Sciences, a member of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners, a member of the Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners, and a member of the Questioned Document Subcommittee of the American Society of Testing and Materials. My background and credentials are set forth in Exhibit I attached hereto.

2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from “Ron Polarik,” [PDF] who has declined to provide his name because of a number of death threats he has received. After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the “Daily Kos,” the Obama Campaign, “Factcheck.org” and others cannot be relied upon as genuine. Mr. Polarik raises issues concerning the COLB that I can affirm. Software such as Adobe Photoshop can produce complete images or alter images that appear to be genuine; therefore, any image offered on the internet cannot be relied upon as being a copy of the authentic document.

3. Upon a cursory inspection of the internet COLB, one aspect of the image that is clearly questionable is the obliteration of the Certificate No. That number is a tracking number that would allow anyone to ask the question, “Does this number refer to the Certification of Live Birth for the child Barack Hussein Obama II?” It would not reveal any further personal information; therefore, there would be no justifiable reason for oliterating it.

4. In my experience as a forensic document examiner, if an original of any document exists, that is the document that must be examined to obtain a definitive finding of genuineness or non-genuineness. In this case, examination of the vault birth certificate for President-Elect Obama would lay this issue to rest once and for all.

SANDRA RAMSEY LINES Forensic Document Examiner ........ Paradise Valley, Arizona 85253

SRLines@cox.net

Former Federal Examiner Retired Law Enforcement Officer

* Identification of handwriting, hand printing, signatures, typewriting, photocopying, and printing processes

* Examination of paper, inks, stamps, seals, and other documentary evidence to determine identity, source, authenticity, and possible date

* Forensic analysis of business and medical records to determine whether there are alterations, additions, deletions, erasures, substitutions, and/or if the records were manufactured in a normal course-of-business manner

* Distinguishing forgery from genuineness

* Restoration or decipherment of erased, obliterated or hidden writing

* Expert testimony in state and federal courts, and regulatory hearings

Certified Diplomate, American Board of Forensic Document Examiners Fellow, American Academy of Forensic Sciences Member, American Society of Questioned Document Examiners Member, Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners Member, American Society of Testing and Materials, Forensic Sciences Committee, and Questioned Document Subcommittee

[Kevmo]

You’re not fighting for the constitution when you are spreading this conspiracy theory. You are engaing in wishful thinking.
***And you are engaging in outright cowardice.

I wish Obama wasn’t going to be president, too, but the reality is that he will be taking the oath on January 20.
***It’s highly likely that you are correct but you do not know that because you do not know the future. It’s an argument from silence, a classic fallacy, in this case the silence is the future. So get lost, troll, take a critical thinking class and quit sniping at genuine conservatives who are fighting for this constitutional republic rather than slithering into the cowardice cave like you.

We can either use what little sway we have in Washington to block Obama’s radical agenda
***How has that worked so far? You work your side of the street, we’ll work ours.

(thank God we’ve kept the Dems from getting 60 senators, but it’s still going to be tough to keep every Republican in line on a lot of stuff), or we can get distracted by useless conspiracy theories.
***Go ahead, prove this is a useless conspiracy theory. How many other useless conspiracy theories have been forwarded 4 times for conference by SCOTUS? Huh? I can’t hear you! That’s a big fat ZERO. You know it, too, so it’s time for you to STFU.

That’s why there are so many of these newbies (including Polarik). They want to keep us distracted because FR has proven effective in the past.
***You callin’ me a newbie? I’ve been here almost twice as long as you, troll. This thread has PROOF that Polarik’s evidence is scientifically noteworthy, as FILED IN THE AFFIDAVIT. So that’s the standard, troll. If you want to criticize someone with that level of expertise then you need to have an affidavit filed in a lawsuit where someone else puts their credentials on the line for what you’re saying. You won’t because you can’t. Polarik already has. So why don’t you just sit back, STFU, and learn something while you sign up for that critical thinking class you need so much?

[papagall]

How very leftists, to twist the issue as you have tried to do. What can you cite as proof this fraud was born in Hawaii? Since the document the fraud has used to try and claim he was born in Hawaii has been shown inadequate to prove where he was actually born, what can you cite as proof? And how does where he was born remove the reality of his British subject citizenship through his father at birth, a fact the man has freely admitted on his website?

[Publius Valerius]

says the chances of one case being forwarded for conference is 1/200

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean the odds that a case filed with the Supreme Court will go to conference is 1/200 or that the odds are 1/200 that a denied stay application that is refiled with another justice being forwarded to conference is 1/200?

[Kevmo]

Troll, there’s an affidavit quoting zer0bama’s gramma that she witnessed the birth in Kenya. Got any affidavits handy that show he was born in Hawaii? Hummm??? Fresh out? And where’s that affidavit supporting your credentials to do anything but STFU? After all, that’s the standard we’ve established on this thread.

[papagall]

How very typical of a lying leftists, to demand proof of a negative! Some of you Obamanoids are becoming unhinged, and it is so amusing to witness.

[Kevmo]

Will the 3rd time be the Charm in Challenging Obama’s Eligibility?
Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:56:12 PM · 88 of 91
Congressman Billybob to Kevmo
No, all cases referred to the Court are NOT conferenced. To the contrary, 99.5% are rejected without conferences. Plus, only cases that are briefed and argued are actually confedrenced.
Requests for Emergency Relief are “referred” to the other Justices when the ONE Justice who has the case things that relief MIGHT be appropriate. I’ve talked about this process for about four months, now.

Congressman Billybob

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[Kevmo]

I asked a simple question—what’s new here?
***Baloney. You said, “get proof” so I said “get lost”, Troll.

[little jeremiah]

Here are more nuggets of wisdom from the site Sibre Fan linked to, and note the date - I think the Prof Volokh was corrected later and admitted he didn’t have his facts right, and also note that 0bama’s campaign spokeshold said the COLB posted on the websites was authentic, so now we know it was! Also, this is the very first place I have seen it said that Okubo said that 0bama was born in HI, does anyone know more about this? Out of context, outright lie, accurate quote?

Posted November 3, 2008 3:45 PM
by James Janega
Seeking to squelch persistent rumors that Sen. Barack Obama isn’t eligible to become president because he allegedly was born outside the United States, a Hawaiian official has confirmed she has “personally seen and verified” that the state “has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate” - meaning Obama was born in the Aloha state, and is therefore an American citizen.

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Does this mean Obama was born in Hawaii?
“Yes,” said Hawaii Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo, in both email and telephone interviews with the
In the Tribune’s political blog “The Swamp” last month, reporter Mark Silva produced a copy of Obama’s birth certificate and addressed the birthplaces of both presidential candidates.

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The issue of whether Obama is a “natural born citizen”—which means “a citizen at birth”—was raised in a June 10 article on the conservative Web site World Net Daily.
Hawaii was a state in 1961, when Obama was born. Any person born in the U.S. automatically is a “natural born citizen,” said University of California Los Angeles law professor Eugene Volokh.

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In June, the Obama campaign released an electronic copy of the certificate bearing the seal of the State of Hawaii Department of Health and showing that Barack Hussein Obama II was born to mother Stanley Ann Dunham in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961.
Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said last week that the document was authentic.
And now, so has the state of Hawaii.

[Kevmo]

You don’t belong on FR.
***Well, on an emotional scale I will agree with you that gimper doesn’t belong, but realistically he’s just being a CoLB troll and should remove himself from these threads as a cowardly troll.

[Publius Valerius]

“To the contrary, 99.5% are rejected without conferences.”

That’s not right. Look at the Supreme Court’s docket. Since I don’t know of a way to browse all currently pending cases, do a search for “United States,” which will return a lot of hits. Now look at the dockets for those cases.

http://search.access.gpo.gov/supreme-court/SearchRight.asp?ct=Supreme-Court-Dockets&q1=united+states

As I read the Supreme Court rules, cases are distributed as a matter of course, and that’s been my experience as well. In fact, just browsing through the first ten or fifteen cases involving the United States, I didn’t see a single case that wasn’t distributed for conference. In case you think cases involving the United States get special treatment, try searching for “Smith.”

[cynwoody]

Sandra Ramsey Lines

[Kevmo]

7:24 p.m.
***Here’s a fun tidbit. The fake CoLB posted by the nom de plume “hayIBaPhorgerie” has the same time of birth as zer0bama. Gosh, I wonder what the odds are for that? It’s 1/34560.

[little jeremiah]

Comments such as the one you just made are just the type that are making FR look like a cesspool.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

I admit that unlike some of you, I haven’t obsessed over this non-story for months, but just how many times has any court ruled in favor of anyone bringing these suits? That would also be a big fat ZERO. These cases have been seen as, to quote US District Judge R. Barclay Surrick “frivolous and not worthy of discussion”. Ouch. And yet, you think some court is going to overlook all of the evidence, just because of something Barack’s granny said.

[Kevmo]

Darn, I posted too soon.

So what are the odds of these things coming together the way they have? Same IBForgery dude has same time + 4 cases being forwarded to colleagues at SCOTUS? 1/34560*1/1.8Billion which is getting too big for my calculator, it’s coming out to about 1/60 TRILLION. Now do you see why I keep pushing for contracts at Intrade? I’ll take those odds.

[Kevmo]

If these were frivolous they wouldn’t have been forwarded 4 times for conference.

So if you’re gonna call it a non-story, just get out of our way, Coward Troll.

[Kevmo]

Take it up with billybob.