Posted on 01/03/2009 6:54:45 PM PST by Bill Dupray
Yeah, and this is one issue where I agree with my fellow libtards on. The Drug War stinks. If you want to stop drugs, secure the damn borders and end taxpayer treatment programs for junkies. But stop using strawman arguments to defend the Drug War which only feeds the law enforcement and prison industries. Let the states legalize and tax marijuana so they won't come begging to the feds for a bailout.
BTW, Mass. recently almost passed an initiative to kill the state income tax and the Libertarian candidate for Senate came in 2nd against Uncle Ted in 2000, so the state still has some patriots left.
It’s amazing how far people will go to justify their vices as virtues or “harmless recreation” when they are anything but.
He should be arrested and thrown in prison, no questions asked. However, this is less likely to happen than the current problem of school kids who are already using pot.
Conservatives need to get on the right side of issues like this. We need to take a more Libertarian approach.
We should legalize (and tax):
Marijuana and its derivatives
Online gambling
Prostitution
To pretend that we can stop these activities or that somehow we as a nation will morally wake up is lunacy.
“Pot arrests usually come after someone is stopped for breaking some other law.
Usually, but not always. The cities and counties LOVE the “civil forfeiture” aspect of the War on Drugs. It gets them all kinds of cash they couldn’t get otherwise. Here’s the most egregious example:
An eccentric millionaire in Malibu, set up and shot dead for his ranch property-
http://www.saveourguns.com/scott001.htm
Civil forfeiture is a nightmare, and there are more than plenty of examples. A violation of the 4th Amendment in my opinion.
The example works. Your argument is invalid because marijuana is not legal.
I think ALL drugs should be decrimalized as for possession and use. Put the sellers in jail. I am tired of the crime and murder and the use of such to make our police force a military type force and as a push for gun control. I did not use to feel this way but I have changed my mind. The war on drugs is bad for freedom.
See this? ----> .
That's the world's smallest violin, playing you a sad song right there.
An eccentric millionaire in Malibu, set up and shot dead for his ranch property-
http://www.saveourguns.com/scott001.htm
Civil forfeiture is a nightmare, and there are more than plenty of examples. A violation of the 4th Amendment in my opinion.
And people wonder why I don't trust cops anymore.
Make fun of Massachusetts politics all you want to, because it has been a serious “mess” for more than five decades and counting. Just also understand that “Massachusetts politics” will officially go national on January 20, 2009, and many things on many issues will get worse all over the entire country because of this fact. I don’t see conservatism making any kind of serious political comeback for, at least, sixty years, if ever, but I seriously do hope that I’m wrong about my prediction. Too many people, just from within the GOP at every political level, are still acting like they don’t fully understand everything that just happened to them on November 4, 2008.
To me, marijuana is less an issue than hemp. Specifically, missing out on a crop that could be worth billions. Grown on marginal land, with a minimum of fertilizer and pesticide, if used for nothing other than paper it would be a godsend.
Not only does it make better paper that lasts far longer than wood pulp paper, but it would slash the price of lumber, which could be put to far better use on other things than chip.
And since hemp will cross pollinate with marijuana, it will slash its potency. It will still be a drug, just not as potent a drug.
“The example works. Your argument is invalid because marijuana is not legal.”
No... the original point was, it’s not a victimless crime. If it were legal, there wouldn’t be a need to smuggle it. That makes it a bad example.
My point was that you don’t know what you’re getting with pot. It could be just stinky, or it could knock you on your ars with 1 hit. Impairment is dangerous if you’re doing anything in public. I personally don’t want my family and me subjected to dangerously impaired people - we already have enough on the streets.
Weed is a gateway drug in more ways than one. Many criminal organizations that are into trafficking hard-core dope, got started cultivating or dealing weed. The weed provided them the capital to expand into coke, meth, and junk. This travesty of a law will provide the Mexican drug cartels will even more customers in the United States and will produce even more brutal murders on both sides of the border.
On the other hand, now everyone in Massachusetts can talk like Caroline Kennedy.
-PJ
Massachusetts itself is going to pot. They join together what God has placed asunder, and the legislature negates the Constitution if port side political pressures require it.
DeCriminalize pot, but fire employees who use it.
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