Posted on 12/15/2008 10:39:10 AM PST by stockpirate
Is this why the Donofrio v. Wells (NJ) case is still pending? Is it only after the Electoral College votes and Congress certifies the election, that the Supreme Court believes it may take action regarding the eligibility of presidential candidates? The cases currently before the court, except for the Berg (PA) case, are versus state secretaries of state, not against Barack Obama, but perhaps that does not make a difference.
Is it similar to a prosecutor only allowed to prosecute after the crime and not before?
And being an apathetic defeatist is what you are right now and what Nehemiah and others in history overcame to accomplish great things for their people.
"I'd have given up unless I had believed to see the goodness of God in the land of the living." [Psalm 27:3]
Do you believe that ???
I understand what you are saying, and it is a shame we don’t apparently have any reasonable way to truly vet such issues, nor have leaders who support finding a better way.
You said — “And being an apathetic defeatist is what you are right now and what Nehemiah and others in history overcame to accomplish great things for their people.”
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Okay, let’s use Nehemiah as an object example, in light of this Obama “qualification” to be President of the United States.
If I were to “apply” Nehemiah and his building of the walls of Jerusalem, to the present situation — it would be to not wring one’s hands about the state of affairs of the Constitution and worry about whether Obama is going to be President or not...
I would “build the walls” and continue doing what is needed for the correct application of the Constitution — from here on out — and forget about Obama.
Nehemiah wasn’t trying to close the barn door after the horse got out. He was building the walls so that Jerusalem would be protected *in the future* — after the walls were built.
SO..., in light of that application — the Obama horse has already gotten out of the barn. The Constitution is not dead, and it needs to be “reinforced” with some “wall-building” so we don’t let the “evil-doers” win like this in the future...
Now, that’s what I call a much more *productive* application...
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The Constitution is not dead... “Build the walls” (of the Constitution); forget the horse that got out of the barn.
At this point in time, I think the best way to work through this problem is to use the obvious “energy” that is here on this issue, and get some state laws passed that require the Secretary of State to vet a candidate (for the Presidential election, and any other election requirement for other offices, too) before they can legally be put on the ballot.
And if someone is not legally vetted, then anyone who tries to vote for them, even if a write-in, then they can’t count that vote (for that candidate, that is...).
It’s necessary to do that, at this time, since we see what can happen...
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LOL..., gosh I just haven’t seen you... what can I say... :-)
What???? So then ignoring a fundamental qualification for President right there in black and white in front of all of us is the first step to building the walls??? Get real, it merely creates more destruction. How about we start right now rather than wait. How about closing the barn door right now rahter than tomorrow. How about closing the breach in the wall right now before more damage is done by the one exploiting the breach.
Nehemiah wasn’t trying to close the barn door after the horse got out. He was building the walls so that Jerusalem would be protected *in the future* — after the walls were built.
Did he build the walls around the city with the enemies of Israel inside or outside??? And where were those promoting the defeatist attitude??? They were outside and were in league with the enemies.
SO..., in light of that application — the Obama horse has already gotten out of the barn.
No it hasn't??? He is only the President elect who has not yet qualified according to the Constitution and the 20th Amendment thereof.
The Constitution is not dead, and it needs to be “reinforced” with some “wall-building” so we don’t let the “evil-doers” win like this in the future.
And the place to start is right now and right here not in some neverneverland or nevernevertime of time but right here and right now on solid terra firma.
The Constitution is not dead... “Build the walls” (of the Constitution); forget the horse that got out of the barn.
That is what every criminal likes to hear. Forget about enforcing that law on me. Do it on the next guy.
I have news for you -- we are building the walls. You can either assist by doing your part or hinder the effort as you have been doing. It is your choice --- choose wisely!!!!!!!!
You said — “I have news for you — we are building the walls. You can either assist by doing your part or hinder the effort as you have been doing. It is your choice -— choose wisely!!!!!!!!”
I’ll choose to work on putting a mechanism in place to vet candidates *before* the election so that we don’t have this problem with a Constitutional issue again. That’s where my work will be.
As far as Obama is concerned, you’re beating a dead horse... LOL...
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[AND..., I’ll keep saying that you’re beating a dead horse, whether it’s right or not. By the way, have you ever heard about William Ayers? I thought so. Is he in jail? I didn’t think so... That’s an example... Why aren’t you doing something to put Ayers in jail? Well, because it’s “beating a dead horse”... you’re simply not going to be able to do it... or haven’t you figured that out yet. It has nothing to do with right or wrong. There’s a point at which you can’t do a particular thing you want to have done, even if it is the right thing to do... ]
What do you mean "will be"??? Why not now??? Everything with you is tomorrow. What's wrong with today???? Get busy with that and quit your diddling around here. We also have work to do which, by your own admission, does not include you.
As far as Obama is concerned, you’re beating a dead horse... LOL...
I thought you said that it was already out of the barn -- now it's dead. Anyway, if we are, then that little mechanism you are dreaming of won't matter anyway. If the Constitution can be ignored on an issue as clear as this, then what makes you think that your little mechanism won't as well???
You said — “Why not now???”
It’s already dark outside where I’m at... :-)
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And, you said — “I thought you said that it was already out of the barn — now it’s dead.”
I guess I had better hire an editor to go over my posts, first, before posting them. I’m sure he would have corrected my sentence to read... “As far as the Obama issue is concerned, you’re beating a dead horse... LOL...”
Excuse me, while I look around for an editor to hire... :-)
LOL
Will that be a horse of another cover :)
It’s all fine and dandy to “build walls” for the future. And maybe we’ll see some significant energy directed to this goal in the future.
But a plan for four years down the road has NO bearing on immediate issues.
You can plan on buying a new car in four years but that doesn’t address the flat tire you have now.
I’m still in favor of trying to fix our current flat tire.
And if someone wants to stop and help, fine. Otherwise I will work on the tire myself.
In the current context, I’ll continue pushing to have the constitution upheld regarding BO’s eligibility.
If people want to drive by and give me the finger (or call me a tin hat nut case) that’s OK.
And some like to say “drop this and work on real issues”.
Sure, I’d like to dress up my ride too - but I still want that tire fixed.
Please, do not spam the threads. Thank you.
You were saying... “Please, do not spam the threads. Thank you.”
I stopped putting in the same duplicate post when I was notified on this before (a bit earlier, yesterday, I think). Since then, I’ve been simply responding to the other posters on the subject matter, that’s all.
However, I do have the same several “themes” that I am responding with (about three or four themes on the issue). But, I try to respond uniquely on them.
I think that’s proper, in what I’m doing now..., since I’m replying to people who post back to me... Let me know if that’s not right... I’ll try to find out how to respond with my ideas. Thanks...
Star Traveler - you are a bore.
Go away.
You said — “Go away.”
Well, I was away until someone pinged me.... LOL...
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