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Factcheck chickens out: takes cheap shots at patriots
The Greater Evil ^ | 12/12/08 | Polarik

Posted on 12/13/2008 7:31:52 AM PST by Polarik

Part One: Factcheck fraud continues taking cheap shots at patriots

One day before the six-month anniversary of Obama's forged birth certificate posting, Factcheck.org packed up its tent, hopped back on its high horse, and rode out of Dodge. In the wake of their run for cover, Factcheck left behind a cutesy video titled, the "Circus is Still in Town," likening what's left of the 2008 election cycle to a three-ring circus -- and who knows more about a circus than a bunch of clowns pretending to be a nonpartisan research group?

Here is a link to the video: "Good-bye for Now"

In "Ring Number One," as the smarmy-mouthed commentator babbled on, and as the title header changed,

"We have the repeatedly answered but persistent question of the President-Elect citizenship. {The new header now reads Obama is a Natural-Born Citizen: Supreme Court rejects birth certificate challenge} Pay particular attention to her body language and the positioning of her head to her body-- she appears as if she is either hard-of-hearing or needs to talk out of the left side of her mouth. I might opt for the latter explanation if Factcheck had not been been talking out of both sides all year long.

The commentator begins by scolding Factcheck's critics as if they were children, "We received several e-mails questioning Obama's status as a US-born natural citizen, even after we published multiple reports on the subject, that Obama has furnished the documentation necessary to prove that he is, indeed, a US citizen."

Notice how coyly Factcheck states a bald-faced lie in that last sentence. First, they claim that they have received several "emails questioning Obama's status as a US-born natural citizen," as if three emails are the most important challenges to their "Natural-born" lie. But, then they end it saying that Obama "furnished documentation to prove that he is a US citizen," which is also a lie in addition to not providing any documentation on his alleged "natural-born status."

The next sequence shows a background graphic of an email form, like Windows Mail, followed by heavy, black letters appearing one letter at a time, as if they were being typed by a real person creating a real email. Both the choices and content of the emails are bogus as well. They are carefully crafted "straw men" deliberately written and worded to make the viewer believe that stupid people who cannot spell wrote these, thus making it child's play for the condescending commentator to either trash them or ignore them with ease.

The first "email" writes that the birth certificate (COLB) is questionable because it came from a "tainted source," the Obama campaign. However, no comment from the commentator. The second "email" says that Factcheck never looked at the original birth certificate because it lacked footprints or hand prints, "You never had a baby or you would know that they print his foot prints on 3 or 4 blank birth certificate documents." No comment again.

But, then the commentator continues, "And yet we others claim that because "Obama held US and Kenyan citizenship as a child...he lost his Kenyan citizenship after he turned 21." However, the actual text on their email graphic reads that "If he [Obama] held U.K. citizenship and Kenyan citizenship when he was born, then he cannot be a natural born citizen of the US." Notice that the question specifically states that Obama held dual citizenship when he was born, but Factcheck changed "born" to "child," thinking it has avoided the problem of "When did Obama acquire Kenyan citizenship?" and, most importantly, was Obama born in Kenya?"

Well, wouldn't you know that the last "email" they posted completely changed the subject as it was written as if it came from an anti-Obama Troll," You lowlife anti constitutional dirtbags. You didn;t fool everyone!"

The title header changes once again, with the tag line reading, "Creative insults don't change the facts." Insults may not change the truth, but the truth is of no concern to Factcheck. Factcheck The commentator continues, "But regardless of what some people may think of our reporting, the Supreme Court has rejected a challenge by..." and then launches into a bastardized description of Leo Donofrio's case. She then says that, "There is at least one other case.." referring, of course, to Phil Berg's lawsuit, focusing only on the part that claims Obama was born in Kenya, and not Hawaii. Then, with her eyebrows raised and her eyelids shut, and in a demeaning tone of voice, she conveys that quintessential air of superiority so typical of the Leftist media, the commentator rebuffs Berg's notion by stating,"Berg has produced no proof to support his claim."

This would have been a good time to switch the header graphic to read, "Condescending blow-offs don't change the facts."

This piece ends with a complete misquote from Hawaii's Vital Statistics rules that, "Birth certificates may not be seen by persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record." So much for "checking facts." The correct wording of the rule is that, "A certified copy of a vital record (birth, death, marriage, or divorce certificate) is issued only to an applicant who has a direct and tangible interest in the record." NOTE: there is a huge difference between "seeing" someone's certified birth certificate, and "being issued" someone's birth certificate. America has been asking Obama to SHOW HIS REAL, CERTIFIED PAPER DOCUMENT, and not for 300 million of us to receive our own certified copy of it.

Keep in mind, also, the big difference between asking for and receiving a "certified copy" of a birth record, and one that is not certified -- which is called a "Letter of Verification," and is one that an agency can request and receive.

Finally, Factcheck throws in the oft-misquoted statement made by Directors Fukino and Onaka of Hawaii's health Department. Although the commentator read it verbatim, the timing and placement of it (at the end) was done to makle the viewer think that the brass at the Health Department verified Obama's Hawaiian birth -- which has never been done, and is the only thing that we ask. Factcheck's fraud, however, is intended to keep us from even asking the question.

So, why did Factcheck make such a hasty exit? I've heard a rumor that they are laying low for legal reasons, but I do not know why. After all, what do they have to hide? {chuckle-chuckle}

Part Two: How I scanned and analyzed a real Certification of Live Birth

Or, "What Factcheck's image scan might have been if it were not bogus."

I made a video, dedicated to FReepers everywhere, that demonstrates the proper scan a real, paper Certification of Live Birth so that ALL of its critical features are visible, such as the Seal, upper fold, lower fold, and the texture of the paper. I also show how to use

As soon as I get the file uploaded, I'll post it.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; factcheck; fraud; obama; obamatruthfile; video
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1 posted on 12/13/2008 7:31:52 AM PST by Polarik
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To: Polarik

It really all boils down to more “CHICAGO POLITICS” all based in crime, corruption and fraud.


2 posted on 12/13/2008 7:42:12 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Polarik

Does a birth certificate really require hand and foot prints? My own COLB does not have these.


3 posted on 12/13/2008 7:48:21 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Polarik

BTTT


4 posted on 12/13/2008 7:49:41 AM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Polarik

Maybe their funding from Soros ran out..!


5 posted on 12/13/2008 7:55:21 AM PST by JSDude1 (Like the failed promise of Fascism masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism- Nephi)
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To: pnh102
You know nobody cares about your birth certificate we want to see Obamas. Your not going to be the next president of the U.S.A.
6 posted on 12/13/2008 8:09:33 AM PST by jarofants (Obama wants to bailout Kenya and other nations.)
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To: Polarik

Obama produced a COLB, it has his name, date of birth, and location of birth (Honolulu), that is all that is required to establish natural born citizenship. I fail to see why on earth he needs to produce BC.

Unless there is some really solid evidence to point to a Kenyan birth, the issue remains a tin foil hat internet conspiracy.


7 posted on 12/13/2008 8:19:46 AM PST by zarodinu
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To: zarodinu

“Obama produced a COLB”

A COLB does not establish where a person was born or when. It only establishes that at the time of the COLB application the person was alive and in Hawaii. You could go get one right now.


8 posted on 12/13/2008 8:20:53 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: zarodinu

“Obama produced a COLB”

No, he has not. There has been no presentation of a COLB by Obama. Please give a reference to your statement; a link or verifiable reference.


9 posted on 12/13/2008 8:23:00 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

Obama’s COLB states the exact date and time of his birth, as well as the fact that he was born in Honolulu.


10 posted on 12/13/2008 8:25:49 AM PST by zarodinu
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To: zarodinu

What COLB? Again, please give a link or verifiable reference. Propagana such as yours will be met with hostility.


11 posted on 12/13/2008 8:28:52 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: zarodinu
Obama’s COLB states the exact date and time of his birth, as well as the fact that he was born in Honolulu.

His COLB also states that it was FILED on Aug, 8,1961, NOT ACCEPTED. Do you care to explain why it wasn'rt accepted ?

12 posted on 12/13/2008 8:38:19 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: CodeToad

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Same document Obama posted on his website.


13 posted on 12/13/2008 8:39:04 AM PST by zarodinu
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To: CodeToad
No, he has not. There has been no presentation of a COLB by Obama.

Yes there has been. That a fringe group of conspiracy theorists have embraced the absurd claim that this COLB is fraudulent is of no significance to anyone.

14 posted on 12/13/2008 8:40:31 AM PST by Drew68
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To: zarodinu
Obama’s COLB states the exact date and time of his birth, as well as the fact that he was born in Honolulu.

You do realize the Certification of Live Birth applicant completes a form containing spaces or boxes for those items that the applicant fills in, don't you?

The State of Hawai'i doesn't even accept a Certification of Live Birth for their own Homestead application. It is not evidence of natural born citizenship.

A Certificate of Live Birth would have the name and signature of the doctor or midwife, as well as the name of the hospital the actual birth took place in. That's the document we want to see.

And that's the same document Obama has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to avoid showing us. Why would he spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to avoid showing that document if it proves he's a natural born citizen?

Probable answer: Because it doesn't.

15 posted on 12/13/2008 8:42:52 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: zarodinu
Hello again. Still trying to stir things up huh?

That, the document on Obama’s website, is not a Birth Certificate. Sorry, its just not. And anybody stating that it is, is just ignorant or a shill for Obama.

Once again, welcome to Free Republic.

16 posted on 12/13/2008 8:48:40 AM PST by saleman
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To: savedbygrace

What’s interesting is the ADMISSION that he, indeed, had dual citizenship with KENYA. Never heard that before on tape like this. And this dual citizenship fact was NEVER mentioned by anyone in the MSM.


17 posted on 12/13/2008 8:56:12 AM PST by jackofhearts (Unko bachana kaun chahega (Who will want to save them)??)
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To: jackofhearts

I wonder if the “admission” of dual citizenship was to cover for the fact that he visited Pakistan while no US citizens were allowed in the country.


18 posted on 12/13/2008 9:01:03 AM PST by saleman
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To: Drew68

“Yes there has been.”

It was taken down within two days after review found it to be a fraud. He refuses to release the COLB or a BC. He has teams of lawyers trying to fight this. Why? If he so easily presented it on his web site why is he fighting it now?


19 posted on 12/13/2008 9:18:44 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: saleman
he visited Pakistan while no US citizens were allowed in the country.

Again, making stuff up. There was no travel ban imposed on U.S. citizens when Obama went to Pakistan.

20 posted on 12/13/2008 9:25:17 AM PST by Drew68
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