Posted on 12/02/2008 6:57:32 AM PST by prplhze2000
came across an article from an old issue of U.S. News & World Report commemorating the 100th anniversary of the Civil War. What was interesting was that it compared the treatment of the South for decades after the war's end to the millions of dollars and additional support given to Germany and other European countries through the Marshall plan and concluded the South's fate was a drag on the rest of the country as it remained the poorest section of America by far.....
U.S Treasury agents streamed through the South in 1865 grabbing cotton, land, anything that they claimed to have been the property of the Confederacy. They took cotton valued at $30 million. Behind them came hordes of carpetbaggers (With the Wall Street Journal's blessing I'm sure. They'll invent some economic theory to justify it while professing to hate the looters in Atlas Shrugged) from the North to drain away any Southern Capital they could lay hands on..."
The Southern steel industry, doing a booming business in 1900, was virtually stopped in its track, Southerners said, by a rate structure imposed by the North. The rates required payment of price differentials so sharp that it became cheaper for an industry in New Orleans to buy steel from Pittsburgh than from Birmingham. Not until World War II were changes made in this system."
Such policies created a region so poor and under-educated that FDR called the South the "nations number one economic problem" in 1938...
(Excerpt) Read more at kingfish1935.blogspot.com ...
Horse hocky!
It’s no wonder southerners hated yankees.
Crap and boo-hoo; those evil northern capitalists. The south made it’s own fate by 1) trying to subvert the constitution through secession and 2) by allowing the democrat party to gain control of all resources and local state governments and become the ruling class. They threw out the carpetbaggers within 20 years of the end of the Civil War and had allowed the southern bred scalawag democrats to become the ruling class. The southern democrats along with the POS northern democrats ruled congress for too many years and they were part and parcel to the laws and regulations that were passed. You did it to yourselves.
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I hope they don't bring their liberal politics with them. I like your list. Its spot on.
Legally, the country was all back together by 1877. But a lot of us who grew up in the South and remember our history knew that the big-city Northern interests kept us down economically for quite a while after that because it was in their own self-interest to do so.
145 years later and they’re still looking down on us. All you need to do to know that is just look at how Southerners are portrayed in the mass media. White Southerners are almost always stupid rednecks, violent racists, or both, except for those enlightened few who have gotten edumacated up North and come back to spread peace and harmony and liberalism among the savage trailer-park masses.
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I have been reading a book — the diary of Sarah Morgan — from the Civil War. She wrote about the Union coming in, looting and burning Baton Rouge. When one of her family’s slaves tried to stop some of the looting, saying her home belonged to a poor widow and her daughters, the soldiers made comments about them not being so poor and had some former slaves from the area come through and loot whatever they felt like.
Oh, when they move down here, they do bring their leftiness with them. Look at Virginia and North Carolina. Virginia’s been pulled left by the DC suburbs, and North Carolina has a massive influx of lefty out-of-staters in Charlotte and here in the Triangle (Raleigh/Durham).
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The insufficient industrial base was the South’s doing. The attitude was that “We don’t need industries, we’re all gentlemen and warriors, not ingnorant laborers like the North”. Arrogance and contempt results in a skewed view of reality that leads to defeat.
Besides that, this moronic “the South will rise again” attitude is no different from what drives the Irish protestant vs Catholic conflict in Ireland and the centuries long quest for a muslim caliphate against the “godless infidels”. The South lost in large part due to extreme hubris and arrogance; get over it.
They do. South FL is full of NY and NJ folk who have turned it into a rude nanny state. I never had a particularly negative opinion of New Yorkers until I moved here.
Well, you should. Go read the TRUTH, if you can find it, about the way women and children were treated by Shermans army. You should be ashamed. And please spare me the crap about how bad the southerners treated the north. Its a pantload and sensible people know it.
article explains Huey Long much better. He actually stood up for people (and was against segregation. thought it was stupid. See T harry Williams book) and said enough.
Origins of the New South is a good book.
I used to think the Yankees were moving south because it was a better place to live but I am beginning to think it is to spread liberalism to the red south and turn it liberal.
Well, I advocate secession but it doesn’t have to be violent. The red states and the red counties of neighboring blue states could simply stop sending income tax payments to the fed. We’re talking about more than three quarters of the land mass (not counting Alaska). 9/10s of the military would agree with the secessionists and at least half of the FBI.
What’s the fed going to do about it?
We Call ourselves the NEW United States of America. Put the new capital in Wichita, Kansas or Oklahoma City, OK and reinstitute the Constitution of the United States. Only tax paying land owning citizens can vote.
Birmingham, Alabama. All the raw materials required to make steel are found nearby.
While you are catching up on your winter reading,learning the true story of the Civil War - read this.
Diary of a Tar Heel Confederate Soldier. Click on the HTML Full Text File. My God this is good reading.
http://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/leon/menu.html
Excerpt: Writter now a POW in a Yankee Prison camp.
June 8 - There is nothing new up to to-day, when I received a box of eatables, one or two shirts, and one pair of pants from home. The only way we can pass our time off is playing cards and chess. Six hundred prisoners came in to-day, with them a lady, who is an artillery sergeant. Being questioned by the provost marshal, she said she could straddle a horse, jump a fence and kill a Yankee as well as any rebel. As time in prison is very dull and always the same thing as the day preceding, I shall not mention each day, but only those days upon which something happened.
June 11 - Five hundred more prisoners came in to-day.
June 12 - To-day, as the negro guard was relieved, two of them commenced playing with their guns and bayonets, sticking at one another. Fortunately one of their guns, by accident, went off and made a hole in the other one’s body, which killed him instantly. The other one kicked at him several times, telling him to get up as the rebels were laughing at him, but in a very short time he found out that he had killed his comrade and that we were laughing sure enough.
June 27 - Received money to-day from home, but they gave me sutler’s checks for it, as we were not allowed any money, for fear we would bribe the sentinels and make our escape.
July 4 - Four hundred prisoners left here for some other prison, as there were too many here.
July 8 - Engle, Riter and myself received boxes from New York to-day, but as Riter has gone to the other prison with the 400 we have made away with his box.
July 23 - Three hundred more were sent from here to the new prison, which is in Elmira, N. Y., myself with them.
July 25 - Left Point Lookout at 8 o’clock this evening in the frigate Victor for New York. There are 700 prisoners on board.
July 26 - To-day on the ocean a great many of our boys were seasick, but not I. I was promised a guard to take me to see my parents in New York for thirty minutes.
July 27 - We see the Jersey shore this morning. Our vessel was racing with another. We had too much steam up; the consequence was a fire on board, but we soon had it out. We landed at Jersey City at 12 M., and were immediately put in cars, and the officer that promised to send me to my parents refused to do so. We left here at 1, got to Elmira at 8 in the evening.
July 28 - We were treated very good on the road, and especially at Goshen, N. Y. The ladies gave us eatables and the men gave us tobacco.
July 29 - There are at present some 3,000 prisoners here. I like this place better than Point Lookout. We are fenced in by a high fence, in, I judge, a 200-acre lot. There is an observatory outside, and some Yankee is making money, as he charges ten cents for every one that wishes to see the rebels.
August - Nothing worth recording this month, except that the fare is the same as at Point Lookout.
September - It is very cold, worse than I have seen it in the South in the dead of winter.
October - We have got the smallpox in prison, and from six to twelve are taken out dead daily. We can buy from prisoners rats, 25 cents each, killed and dressed. Quite a number of our boys have gone into the rat business. On the 11th of this month there were 800 sick prisoners sent South on parole.
November and December - Nothing, only bitter cold. We dance every night at some of our quarters. Some of the men put a white handkerchief around one of their arms, and these act as the ladies. We have a jolly good time.
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