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The Untold Story of the Civil War
Jackson Jambalaya ^ | December 2, 2008 | Kingfish

Posted on 12/02/2008 6:57:32 AM PST by prplhze2000

came across an article from an old issue of U.S. News & World Report commemorating the 100th anniversary of the Civil War. What was interesting was that it compared the treatment of the South for decades after the war's end to the millions of dollars and additional support given to Germany and other European countries through the Marshall plan and concluded the South's fate was a drag on the rest of the country as it remained the poorest section of America by far.....

U.S Treasury agents streamed through the South in 1865 grabbing cotton, land, anything that they claimed to have been the property of the Confederacy. They took cotton valued at $30 million. Behind them came hordes of carpetbaggers (With the Wall Street Journal's blessing I'm sure. They'll invent some economic theory to justify it while professing to hate the looters in Atlas Shrugged) from the North to drain away any Southern Capital they could lay hands on..."

The Southern steel industry, doing a booming business in 1900, was virtually stopped in its track, Southerners said, by a rate structure imposed by the North. The rates required payment of price differentials so sharp that it became cheaper for an industry in New Orleans to buy steel from Pittsburgh than from Birmingham. Not until World War II were changes made in this system."

Such policies created a region so poor and under-educated that FDR called the South the "nations number one economic problem" in 1938...

(Excerpt) Read more at kingfish1935.blogspot.com ...


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Very interesting article and it presents many unknown or forgotten facts.
1 posted on 12/02/2008 6:57:32 AM PST by prplhze2000
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To: prplhze2000

bookmark


2 posted on 12/02/2008 7:01:48 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's okay to wish me "Merry Christmas.")
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To: prplhze2000

Old times there are not forgotten bump


3 posted on 12/02/2008 7:07:55 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: prplhze2000

Four of the last five presidents have been from the South. I’d say they’ve gotten their revenge for losing the rebellion many times over.


4 posted on 12/02/2008 7:08:23 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: prplhze2000

Welcome to the South rich yankees. We’ll take your money.
The South WILL rise again. hehehe


5 posted on 12/02/2008 7:09:04 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Indeed.


6 posted on 12/02/2008 7:10:04 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: prplhze2000

“Such policies created a region so poor and under-educated that FDR called the South the “nations number one economic problem” in 1938...”

This exact same thing is happening today. The liberals are trying to put us all into poverty so that they can have control over everything we do. Yea, FDR to the rescue. Look what he did to this country.


7 posted on 12/02/2008 7:10:45 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: prplhze2000

Bookmark.


8 posted on 12/02/2008 7:11:24 AM PST by EagleMamaMT ("Uncle Sugar: Handle it at the border or Uncle Winchester will handle it at the porch." Squantos)
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To: o_zarkman44
The South WILL rise again. hehehe

South Postpones Rising For Yet Another Year

An oldie but a goodie.

9 posted on 12/02/2008 7:11:45 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Four of the last five presidents have been from the South. I’d say they’ve gotten their revenge for losing the rebellion many times over.

Uh, Clinton and Carter were both scallywags we don't claim...and both of the Bush's are actually Maine carpetbaggers!

10 posted on 12/02/2008 7:11:47 AM PST by meandog (Wasilla warrior in 2012!)
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Uh, Clinton and Carter were both scallywags we don't claim...and both of the Bush's are actually Maine carpetbaggers!

Call them what you want but both were born, raised, and governed in the South. They are Southerners by every defintion of the word. So are we even for Sherman's march yet?

11 posted on 12/02/2008 7:13:58 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stainlessbanner

Ping


12 posted on 12/02/2008 7:17:15 AM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: prplhze2000

One fact is left out. By the 1880s the democrat party had regained control over most of the old south and by 1900 they had near total control that lasted into the 70s and 80s. Most of the excesses that followed the end of the war were put down by the end of reconstruction. The urban southern areas such as Atlanta grew and flourished but the policies of the ruling party (democrat) purposely kept the rural areas poor because they were easier to control that way. The KKK and the southern democrat machine needed to make sure that the black population was controlled and that the concepts of white supremacy and the confederacy were kept alive in the minds of southern whites. The idea was to keep them poor, dumb and working to make the democrat ruling class richer.


13 posted on 12/02/2008 7:17:41 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: prplhze2000

Here is a great pair books on the subject;

The Politically Incorrect Guide to the South

http://www.thepoliticallyincorrectguidetothesouth.com/

The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Civil War,

http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c7288

Think you know the South and Southern history?

The Politically Incorrect Guide to the South gives you the facts behind scores of revelations like these:

The first of the 13 colonies to formally legalize slavery? (Hint: it’s not in the South)

How Georgia banned slaves - and lawyers - in its founding charter

Why the South is more important to the American Founding than the North

Throw away those history textbooks: How the South,not the North,started -and won — the American Revolution

How Southerners led the way in drafting the Declaration of Independence,the U.S. Constitution,and the Bill of Rights

Why Northerners - not Southerners - wanted slaves to be counted as property instead of people in the Constitution

Peculiar fact about the wealthy slaveholder whose court cases helped legalize slavery in Virginia: he was black

How Virginia militiamen created the American Midwest

Why Northern states threatened secession long before the Confederacy - and why they considered it Constitutional

How the expansion of the U.S. across the continent from 1830-1850 - which gave us the term “Manifest Destiny” - was largely a Southern achievement

Lewis & Clark? Southerners,of course

The first two Jewish members of the U.S. Senate? Yep,you guessed it

How Southerners outnumbered Northerners almost four to one among the heroes of the Alamo

Why slavery,which spread across all thirteen colonies,was far crueler in the North than the South

How the Northern colonies grew rich on slave trading - and revived slavery in the South just before it collapsed

New York City’s largest industry in 1860? The outfitting of slave ships

The site of a mass grave for slaves who were literally worked to death? Hint: it’s not in the South

Why economics - not slavery - was the driving force behind the War Between the States

How Lincoln twice refused — or actually revoked — orders for emancipating slaves

How Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation left more than 800,000 slaves in bondage in states aligned with or occupied by the Union

Black heroes of the Confederacy - and other great Southern blacks you won’t hear about during Black History Month

How the more civilized Southern way of war contributed to its defeat - in contrast to the North’s brutal “total war” against civilians and property

How the Northern victory dealt a death blow to states’rights - leading eventually to today’s all-powerful federal government

Why “Reconstruction” is the most misnamed period in American history

Why segregation,which didn’t exist in the antebellum South,was a legacy of Northern-imposed “Reconstruction”

How virtually all of America’s highest-ranking World War II generals had Confederate roots

How Southerners won World War II in the Pacific theater

How the South was making movies when Hollywood was nowhere

Why race relations in today’s South are much better than in the North - or anywhere else in America

What Yankee reporters don’t understand about the South

Why faith and family come first in the South

Why the South is naturally conservative (and the North is naturally liberal)

Why limited government and low tax rates are a Southern tradition

Why Northerners - white and black — keep moving South

Statistics show Southerners are happier than people in other regions - Clint Johnson shows you why

It’s a fact: Southern women dominate beauty pageants,and Southern men dominate in sports

Why blacks have been moving back to the South in droves

How American jazz,blues,and rock ‘n’ roll (when it was still music) all came from the South

Why blacks hold more - and more powerful - political offices in the South than in the North

Why Southern industry is booming,while the North’s is going bust

The second war against the South — the campaign to erase memory and history - and how it serves liberal interests

Why Southerners are overrepresented in the military - and no,it’s not poverty

The best American literature? Southern,of course - and our high school and college reading lists confirm it

10 Things Southerners Don’t Understand About the North (#1: Why isn’t Ted Kennedy in prison?)


14 posted on 12/02/2008 7:19:36 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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“....Very interesting article and it presents many unknown or forgotten facts....”

Unknown and forgotten by everyone, but Southerners with long family histories.

...and Yankees today wonder why some down here are still bitter....The South was kept in virtual serfdom for generations. That attitude is still alive and well, even among some FReepers.


15 posted on 12/02/2008 7:20:19 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: prplhze2000
Steel in the South?

THIS Yankee never heard that before ... and I am one of those that believes I was never told the truth about the (un)civil war.

16 posted on 12/02/2008 7:22:54 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: NavyCanDo

“Why “Reconstruction” is the most misnamed period in American history”

That can’t be said often enough.


17 posted on 12/02/2008 7:23:33 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Non-Sequitur

Not yet. May he burn in Hell


18 posted on 12/02/2008 7:27:01 AM PST by chesley (A pox on both their houses. I've voted for my last RINO.)
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To: Islander7; NavyCanDo
Seems like I don't know $h!t about a LOT of things.

Good thing it's winter ... got more time to catch up on reading .. thank you for all the input.

19 posted on 12/02/2008 7:29:19 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

>>So are we even for Sherman’s march yet?

Not even close! We can talk AFTER The South gets to burn down Philadelphia and all of Eastern Pennsylvania.

There is much talk these days about a Second War Between The States. Be aware that over a million were killed, wounded or maimed. Many more were displaced, starved and lost everything. That said, the clouds are gathering and the storm is near.

Can it be prevented? Sure. Will it be prevented? Doubtful. “Cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war.”


20 posted on 12/02/2008 7:31:16 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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