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Atheist challenges: "In God We Trust."
MSNBC ^ | 11/26/08 | montesquieu

Posted on 11/26/2008 11:56:58 AM PST by montesquiue

"SAN FRANCISCO - An atheist who has spent four years trying to ban the Pledge of Allegiance from being recited in public schools is now challenging the motto printed on U.S. currency because it refers to God.

Michael Newdow seeks to remove “In God We Trust” from U.S. coins and dollar bills, claiming in a federal lawsuit filed Thursday that the motto is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion..."

The rest of this story can be found:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103424/

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: atheists; ingodwetrust; motto; purge
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Here's your chance to let the media know where the people stand on our faith in God, as a nation. NBC is taking a poll on 'In God We Trust' to stay on our American currency. Please send this to every Christian you know so they can vote on this important subject. Please do it right away, before NBC takes this off the web page.

Poll is still open so you can vote. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10103521/

Let's send a message LOUD and CLEAR!!

1 posted on 11/26/2008 11:56:59 AM PST by montesquiue
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To: montesquiue

The moonbats should go to Saudi Arabia and try to reomove God from everything there and see what happens.

Headless they woud be mmm hmm hmm hmm. (Yoda).


2 posted on 11/26/2008 12:05:51 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: montesquiue

Who has the ping list for freeping polls?

Bump


3 posted on 11/26/2008 12:06:36 PM PST by Loud Mime (We're not hateful. We respect traditional marriage - which our opponents HATE)
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To: montesquiue
Should the motto “In God We Trust” be removed from U.S. currency?

8,794,830 responses

18% Yes. It's a violation of the principle of separation of church and state.

82% No. The motto has historical and patriotic significance and does nothing to establish a state religion. ---- If it IS a violation, it has been in violation a very long time:

Or is this more of that living interpretation of the Constitution?

4 posted on 11/26/2008 12:11:21 PM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: montesquiue
vote on this important subject

Exactly why is this important? Would a lack of proselytizing on currency affect your faith? It was put on our currency so that in a few thousand years when archeologists are digging up our society they'll supposedly see this inscription and know that we weren't "heathen." It was a dumb reason full of hubris. "E Pluribus Unum" describes our country much better anyway.

OTOH, why is it important to Newdow? He may not agree with the inscription (and neither do I), but it has no force, zero actual or potential affect on a citizen whether he believes or not. There is no right or principle being violated. He's probably a leftist who believes in the supposed right to not be offended.

It's all about this petty culture war the fundies on both sides are waging, and I'm getting sick of it.

5 posted on 11/26/2008 12:12:50 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: toddausauras

I wonder if this attention whore atheist would start praying if for some reason he fell into the clutches of a few guys with a blowtorch and some pliers.
Never mind - rhetorical question - nice to ponder though.


6 posted on 11/26/2008 12:15:05 PM PST by GunsAndBibles (God save Calif. - 'cause it's gonna take a miracle.)
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To: montesquiue
Why are secularists waging a war against Christian America?
7 posted on 11/26/2008 12:17:08 PM PST by WhatNot (If we wish to go forward from here, God must empower us to roll the boulder of pride off our road to)
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To: metmom; tpanther

Hey, this is exactly what the evoatheists do!

Can’t convince the majority of folks that they’re correct, so they take it to a judge to force it on everyone else.


8 posted on 11/26/2008 12:17:33 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: montesquiue
This guy is a butthead. He was on the news a few years back, fighting the Pledge of Allegiance at his daughter's school. He's divorced from the mom, but decides to pick a fight about the PoA. I remember the ex and daughter being interviewed at the time, and they both were OK with the Pledge of Allegiance being recited in school.

So the loser makes a federal case (for real), over an issue that in no way affected him. And of course the liberal rat-headed media ate it up.

9 posted on 11/26/2008 12:18:38 PM PST by floozy22 (Somewhere in Illinois a village is missing a terrorist)
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To: montesquiue
I would like to challenge the Athiests in court:

Prove there is no God ....or go away and mind your own athiest religion business !

10 posted on 11/26/2008 12:19:13 PM PST by KTM rider (keep thy powder dry, gird thy loins, and brace for the winds of change)
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To: montesquiue
Newdow is a lawsuit-wielding bully, a hateful little pest who loathes all religion. He misinterprets our Constitution as banning all public displays of religion and forbidding any governmental mention of God.

It takes a huge leap (of faith, one might say) to read the Establishment Clause not merely as forbidding the creation of a state-sanctioned religious faith but as barring any mention or reference to faith at all. If this were true, why would the Ten Commandments be posted on the wall of the Supreme Court? Why would all court and Executive Branch oaths be taken on... Bibles? Why would our nation's founding documents be replete with references to God? These are inconvenient facts, not irrelevant ones.

The truth is that our country was founded by people of faith, and its Constitution designed to protect the free and public exercise of all faiths rather than to chase such expressions behind closed and private doors so as not to give offense to angry atheists and Pagans.

11 posted on 11/26/2008 12:22:44 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: MrB

Yup!


12 posted on 11/26/2008 12:25:15 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Wouldnt it be interesting to see what the poll results would be if the question was:

Should:
“In God We Trust” be replaced with...

“In Government we Trust”, or simply....

“From Each According to Their Means, to Those According to Their Needs.”

lets just get this thing over with.


13 posted on 11/26/2008 12:25:18 PM PST by schwingdoc
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To: KTM rider

the atheists don’t bother me. The “God” on the currency and the Pledge of Allegiance is the Freemason “Supreme Being,” not the God of the Christians. Especially if you believe, as I do, in the Holy Trinity.


14 posted on 11/26/2008 12:25:18 PM PST by JQuincey
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To: montesquiue

I suppose that would put me off the hook to care for these people in God’s way.


15 posted on 11/26/2008 12:26:40 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: montesquiue

I hope Fox News stops calling this nutcase Dr. New-dow and starts calling him Dr. Nude-Oh to show what type of a nutbag he is.


16 posted on 11/26/2008 12:58:39 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: montesquiue

It will be changed to “In BHO We Trust.”


17 posted on 11/26/2008 1:00:55 PM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: toddausauras

You don’t have to go to Saudi Arabia.

Just look at China, the former USSR, NK, Cambodia,...

There’s plenty of 20th century examples of what a “a”theocracy would do to this country.

No thanks....


18 posted on 11/26/2008 1:01:24 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: montesquiue

Newdow has a FALSE PREMISE that must be constantly rebuffed:

He is the one trying to legislate/ajudicate his will upon the majority. This Nation was founded under a specific paradigm of Liberty. He doe not like our Liberty.

He is a bully and this is how immoral bullies throw their tantrums when they grow older and more clever in their wicked ways.

He must not get his way. The majority of people want things left alone.

The majority of people want judges to punish CRIMINALS, not the majority’s will.


19 posted on 11/26/2008 1:04:56 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: montesquiue

FR does not permit the advocation of violence, so I’ll stay mum on the matter.


20 posted on 11/26/2008 1:39:22 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Comrade, can you spare a crust of bread?)
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