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Huck & Mitt: Dysfunctional Duo Needs to Just Go Away
Nietzche is Dead ^
| 23 Nov 08
| foutsc
Posted on 11/23/2008 10:37:09 AM PST by foutsc
I think Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney are both good men, and they both need to withdraw from Republican presidential politics. The running gun battles between the Huck and Mitt camps are not healthy for the conservative movement. Huck is a slick, smiling gut-fighter who easily lapses into thinly disguised anti-Mormon conceit and liberal tinged populism. Mitt is a wildly successful businessman who is also an ideological chameleon.
I am tired of the bickering between these two men and their fervid supporters. Like matches and gasoline, each man is good in his own way, but mixed together they cause a conflagration that can only damage the conservative movement. And the arguments that spring up around this dreadful duo traffic in religion and personality rather than substantive issues. The ongoing argument has devolved into a third-world political mudball fight where the faithful worship their political idol and smear and demean the opponent.
Viva Huck! Mitt is el diablo!We need substantive debates on core issues, not personality contests. And these two shape-shifters and their cohorts have generated light and heat and sparks but very little substance.
And for this reason I also believe we need to take a cold-eyed view of Sarah Palin. She is a woman of great accomplishment, but we need to drop the mythology and ask if she really has the foreign policy credentials to be president.
Let's be honest, president Bush had no foreign policy experience, and I think that worked against him and the nation. President-Elect Obama does not, but it remains to be seen how that will work out. If it works out well for him, then Sarah Palin can make a case for herself by pointing to President Obama's success in spite of his inexperience. She can then make a case based on judgment and her Alaska record, which I think would put her in good stead.
We need to drop the politics of personality and judge our candidates on the merits of their ideas and experience.
TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: gop; huckabee; nov; romney; vanity
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To: Redcloak
Right. Name me two Republicans to the right of FDR. That is, two who would dismantle the federal government to its pre-FDR status. The GOP’s de facto slogan is we aren’t quite as bad as the other guys.
To: library user
When are you all going to get over Duncan Hunter? He was never a winner outside his little district in CA, which is why he drew almost zero votes in the primary.
To: foutsc
I love Huck hate Mitt. You’re simply wrong if you disagree.
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posted on
11/23/2008 11:33:04 AM PST
by
Tempest
(Obama is not my president.)
To: Arizona Carolyn
...they both ran, they both lost, they both need to go away... along with all the other also-rans.
Agreed.
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posted on
11/23/2008 11:38:29 AM PST
by
rottndog
(Government is a necessary Evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
To: foutsc
Let them run for Senate or House or something. They can still be useful. But neither one has the mojo to get elected president.
To: library user
“but neither of them are the future of the GOP. I say Palin and Duncan Hunter are.”
Bump that! Ya got my vote!
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posted on
11/23/2008 11:42:28 AM PST
by
AuntB
(The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
To: Enosh
Who called Evangelicals Evil? I didn’t.
All I’m saying is that those who couldn’t break free of their immaturity and bigotry long enough to see the big picture should now accept part of the blame for a POTUS who is far worse than Mitt ever would have been. Maybe you think that’s a good thing, but don’t EVER complain about anything the Obamination does to you, as you may have in fact had a hand in it.
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posted on
11/23/2008 11:43:26 AM PST
by
rottndog
(Government is a necessary Evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
To: foutsc
No. Thunderdome cage match. Pay-per-view to benefit the RNC. Trust me on this.
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posted on
11/23/2008 11:48:44 AM PST
by
RichInOC
(Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
To: DesertRhino
Foreign policy is a vital part of the job but it also is the easiest. Either Palin or Obama could learn all they would need to know in a series of briefings prior to inauguration, plus hiring a few qualified advisors. Ronald Reagan was a master at it. Bush did an excellent job as well for four years, until he started channeling Woodrow Wilson for his second Inaugural.
The problem has been presidents (Carter, Clinton) who forgot which side they were on, and what the national interest was (Clinton, Bush41, Bush 43 pt. 2).
To: rottndog
Mitt would have done even worse in the general than MCain did, so your little guilt trip is worthless.
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posted on
11/23/2008 11:56:02 AM PST
by
Enosh
(†)
To: DesertRhino
People continue to forget that as a governor she probably has more foreign experience than others because of where her state is and having to deal w/ Canada and NAFTA on a regular basis. Salmon and energy are also exported to Chile, Japan and China as well so I find it amusing how short side people are...
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posted on
11/23/2008 12:47:32 PM PST
by
Lilpug15
(I'm Moving to Alaska...You can Keep THE CHANGE!)
To: rottndog; fieldmarshaldj
Huckabee ran for the sole purpose of taking Mitt out. ROFL! Only the besotted MittBots would think that he was actually important enough for someone to spend millions to run against him just to "take him out."
Better get your tinfoil hat tuned out...it appears it is missing a few connections!
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posted on
11/23/2008 1:08:08 PM PST
by
greyfoxx39
(Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
To: GOP_Lady
"Im know little about the international financial system, but
I do know that Mitt Romney has continually talked about the U.S. being competitive internationally.
In fact, he was the only candidate to discuss this with respect to Asia."
To: rottndog; Enosh; perfect_rovian_storm
would you rather have been able to vote for someone who actually had the ability to successfully campaign against and beat a communist? Would you rather have been able to vote for someone who actually couldn't even win the GOP nomination...like...oh, say, RINO Romney?
That's a real good first step to winning the general election.
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posted on
11/23/2008 1:14:17 PM PST
by
greyfoxx39
(Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
To: greyfoxx39
Romney is such a loser that his revisionist Obama-RomneyBOTs
(taking time from attacking Gov. Palin and her children)
attempt to purport that the proven LOSER could have won.
To: rottndog
immaturity and bigotry ROTFL...AGAIN! Talk about immaturity!

"You all picked on wonderful Mitt and you DOOMED THE COUNTRY!"
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posted on
11/23/2008 1:20:49 PM PST
by
greyfoxx39
(Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
To: Diogenesis
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posted on
11/23/2008 1:29:27 PM PST
by
GOP_Lady
To: GOP_Lady
If you were honest, the only pest has been Mitt Romney.
Let's take the POV of his poor little dog.
As the oldest son, Tagg Romney commandeered the way-back of the wagon,
keeping his eyes fixed out the rear window, where he glimpsed the first sign of trouble.
''Dad!'' he yelled. ''Gross!'' A brown liquid was dripping down the back window,
payback from an Irish setter who'd been riding on the roof in the wind for hours.
As the rest of the boys joined in the howls of disgust,
Romney coolly pulled off the highway and into a service station.
There, he borrowed a hose, washed down Seamus and the car,
then hopped back onto the highway.
Romney illegally treated poor Seamus (just like Romney ignored the MASS Constitution), but Romney is always "above the law (see fake badges, impersonating LEO in multiple states)
"But the details of the event are more than unseemly they may, in fact, be illegal.
Massachusetts's animal cruelty laws specifically prohibit anyone
from carrying an animal "in or upon a vehicle, or otherwise, in an unnecessarily cruel
or inhuman manner or in a way and manner which might endanger the
animal carried thereon." An officer for the Massachusetts Society
for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals responded to a description of the situation
saying "it's definitely something I'd want to check out." The officer,
Nadia Branca, declined to give a definitive opinion on whether Romney broke the law
but did note that it's against state law to have a dog in an open bed of a pick-up truck,
and "if the dog was being carried in a way that endangers it, that would be illegal."
Conclusion: Classic ROmney - ignoring who he hurts.
"Romney Loses Nomination Over Dog Abuse?
Romney was traveling that summer with his wife, five sons, and Seamus to his parent's cottage on Lake Huron.
But hours into the ride, Seamus apparently suffered diarrhea,
which ran down the back window of the car. Romney's sons, all under 13, howled in disgust.
Romney pulled off the road into a service station.
There, he borrowed a hose, washed down Seamus and the car, and they drove on to Ontario.
.....David Kravitz wrote on BlueMassGroup, a liberal blog.
"It also strikes me as classic Romney: it solves a problem efficiently,
in a business-like manner, and with no regard whatsoever
for the suffering that the solution may cause."
Story about dog on car roof comes back to bite Romney
Critics, jokesters make issue of tale
TIME.com's Swampland blog has been flooded with more than 200 comments
from readers complaining of animal cruelty,
Dog on Roof? What Was It Like for Romney's Pooch?
Scientists Say Dog Likely Experienced Wind-Whipped, Uncomfortable Trip
"Before beginning the drive, Mitt Romney put Seamus, the family's hulking Irish setter,
in a dog carrier and attached it to the station wagon's roof rack.
e'd built a windshield for the carrier, to make the ride more comfortable for the dog," read the article.
Jordan Kaplan, the owner of Petaholics, a dog walking service in New York City,
and a lifelong dog owner and dog lover, said Romney's actions were uncalled for.
....What Happens to a Dog on a Roof Traveling 50 MPH?
Romney's dog
This is a distinction Mitt Romney probably could do without, but he is surely
the first presidential candidate to be attacked for putting a dog with diarrhea
in a carrier and tying it to the top of a station wagon.
Romney's defense: Seamus liked it. "He scrambled up there every time we went on trips,"
the Republican said during a campaign stop in Pittsburgh. "He got in all by himself and enjoyed it."
ROTFLOL. Same excuse adulterers use. It just 'fell in'.
To: Diogenesis
Go away, pest.
You are incapable of having a conversation.
I could be in the desert where it was 105 degrees and sunny and you would still believe it was 30 degress and snowing, because that's what you want to believe.
Now, go away, pest.
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posted on
11/23/2008 1:42:15 PM PST
by
GOP_Lady
To: GOP_Lady
GOP_Lady:
"In fact, (Romney) was the only candidate to discuss this with respect to Asia." Do you, GOP_Lady, really believe this tripe?
Prove it.
Prove there was only one candidate discussing
"the U.S. being competitive internationally.. with respect to Asia."
One suspects it is like the BS you put on every thread.
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