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SCOTUS SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1 (Unconfirmed, see thread research)
Atlas Shrugs ^

Posted on 11/07/2008 6:47:37 PM PST by mnehring

This is interesting. Souter tells Obama to produce the vault copy by December 1, 2008. I believe the messiah will defy the Justices.

Who will force the issue? Who wants to open up that pandora's box?  Imagine if there is something on that birth certificate that  disqualifies Obama from the office of the President.  What are you going to do? Start a civil war? There will be blood in the streets you try to enforce the rule of law. This should have happened before the election. Obambi knows it too.

Here is the fraud report first reported at Atlas.

The Supreme Court and Obama's Birth Certificate organicpeas

If The Supreme Court Decides…?

At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.

"I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect."

Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: bc; bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; hi2008; judiciary; obama; obamagate; obamatransitionfile; ruling; scotus; souter
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To: CottonBall

“I don’t get why Biden wouldn’t just become president. If this was done after they were sworn in, would Biden become the president then?”

If Obama is disqualified PRIOR to Electoral College selection, there would be only 2 remedies:

1. Order a new election with certified candidates (oy vey!).

or

2. Award the election to the qualified candidate with the second most votes (McCain)

Biden MIGHT be able to make the case that his election was valid (if so, he would be VP). If SCOTUS invalidated the entire Obama/Biden ticket, Palin would be VP (second most votes for VP).

If Obama is disqualified AFTER Electoral College Amendment, the VP-Elect (Biden) would become acting POTUS on Jan. 20th until a new POTUS has qualified (20th Amendment). Barring a new election, it would likely be McCain as POTUS. Biden MIGHT be VP, if SCOTUS ruled his election valid - if not, Palin would be VP.

If Obama is disqualified AFTER inauguration, Biden would be POTUS (25th Amendment) and would presumably nominate a new VP (with Senate confirmation). However, McCain COULD sue and probably prevail based upon the election being based on the perpetration of a fraud. Biden MIGHT be VP, as above, if not - then Palin. Or, a new election could be mandated.

Its a friggin’ mess !!!


581 posted on 11/10/2008 1:05:18 AM PST by Lmo56
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To: CottonBall

Yeah - I don’t know ... the MSM is being really squirrely right now.

ABC, CBS, and NBC have national TV reporters who cover SCOTUS. This is NEWS - even if it SCOTUS denies the Writ.

But MSM ain’t covering it ...


582 posted on 11/10/2008 1:08:32 AM PST by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56; Kevmo; null and void; LucyT; Calpernia; hoosiermama; Fred Nerks; Chief Engineer; David; ...

Exactly.

Resolution 511 was a superfulous measure written by Sen. Feinstein, Pelosi McCaskill, Leahy, Coburn, Clinton and Webb as a cover to INSERT a clause of elligibility to provide for their future nominee’s natural born status.

Obviously, they couldn’t just submit and attempt to legislate a bill crafted to benefit and extend ‘natural born’ status to a broad class of citizenship without arising suspicion and later direction towards their future leader who is lacking documentation as an alien born abroad.

Their ‘chivalrous deed’ was prompted by a Senatorial ‘call to arms’ to defend the status of the honourable Sen. John McCain after a timely article planted by ‘our friends’ at the New York Times and then later regurgitated by the Washington Post.

We are facing a cadre of conspirators who have deliberated to undermine and dilute the Constitution to satisfy their whim. It is credible to suggest that it all began with a whisper campaign to their co-conspirator rag-sheets to plant a false flag at McCain’s feet. This ruse provided ‘the cover’ necessary and also explains a portion of media’s fixation for McCain. No other Republican candidate could have provided the ruse for cover that is so desperately needed to legitimize their ‘chosen one.’


583 posted on 11/10/2008 1:42:38 AM PST by Gemsbok (Will the real Barry Dunham, Barry Soetoro, Barack J. Obama, Barack Husein Obama...please stand up?)
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To: Kevmo

>>>My read on the supremes is that they’re a bunch of wusses. They’ll throw it out. It is, after all, a messed up lawsuit that cites internet sources and Techdude the Impersonator.

Berg’s documents cite Polarik, not Techdude.


584 posted on 11/10/2008 3:29:06 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: mnehrling
Quinn & Rose are interviewing Berg right now. 640 WHLO
585 posted on 11/10/2008 4:15:05 AM PST by Elvina ( "You and I have a rendezvous with destiny."--Ronald Reagan 10/27/64)
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To: Lmo56

Excellent information FRiend, thanks for posting that!

It also occurs to me that if 0bama is found to be ineligible to serve as POTUS, Biden cannot be installed as President as he ran for office for the VP position, not POTUS.

In the midst of the chaos, I could see President Bush choosing to resign on January 19, 2009 and Vice President Dick Cheney takes the Oath of Office and serves as Interim President until the ungodly chaos is sorted out one way or the other.

Of course if the 0bamunists begin rioting in the streets and trying to burn down America, I would fully expect President Cheney to declare that long anticipated and talked about martial law and send in federal troops to restore order.

I think of worse scenarios.


586 posted on 11/10/2008 4:16:05 AM PST by mkjessup (Over 57 million *real* Americans said "NO EFFIN WAY" to Comrade 0bama & the 0bamunist Party.)
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To: CaribouCrossing
He has to be laughing his butt off about this birth certificate business. No one in the MSM dug into this issue the way they dug into Joe the Plumber. Not one.

Can you imagine the conversations that go on behind closed doors--such as between Ayers & Dohrn? "Well, I knew we were dumbing down America, but I didn't know we would succeed so quickly in making them COMPLETE IDIOTS!"

587 posted on 11/10/2008 4:30:40 AM PST by Elvina ( "You and I have a rendezvous with destiny."--Ronald Reagan 10/27/64)
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To: Aurorales
I read all the posts on this thread when it first started, but I don't have time to go through all of them now. Has anyone posted the link to Berg's website which explains the current status of the case? Here's an excerpt from the site: "It is expected that the Court will decide whether or not to review Berg v. Obama after the Defendants file their response, and Mr. Berg has replied to the Defendant’s response. The Defendants' response is due by December 1st and Mr. Berg's reply will be submitted thereafter." Berg also stated on Quinn & Rose this morning that it is a misunderstanding that the judge ordered Obama to produce the birth documents.
588 posted on 11/10/2008 4:45:34 AM PST by Elvina ( "You and I have a rendezvous with destiny."--Ronald Reagan 10/27/64)
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To: Lmo56
Thanks for the analysis. It's ugly already.

Also I'm guessing that if sworn Obama will go (1) derelict or (2) nuts sometime in office. That would get to the 25th.

589 posted on 11/10/2008 4:46:19 AM PST by bvw
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To: Elvina

>>>I read all the posts on this thread when it first started

Yeah, at post 98.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2128383/posts?page=98#98


590 posted on 11/10/2008 5:00:16 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Elvina

Bump for later


591 posted on 11/10/2008 5:08:40 AM PST by blf1776 (Compassionate Conservatism Is Dead - It is time to fight, fight, FIGHT!!!!)
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To: Calpernia; The Mayor

Thanks for the info. You mentioned the BC is the talk around DC- was your friend talking about actual people in power- or maybe staff, underlings etc.? I ask because it’s reasonable to assume with all the under the radar talk about the BC all summer and fall- it’s generated a buzz. However- if it’s generating serious talk among players- then we may start seeing some action.

Hope my question makes sense :)


592 posted on 11/10/2008 5:10:53 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom; The Mayor

>>> I ask because it’s reasonable to assume with all the under the radar talk about the BC all summer and fall- it’s generated a buzz.

Coincidental or not, the ICE investigation into illegal immigration started in Hawaii July 2008.


593 posted on 11/10/2008 5:23:57 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: txflake

. . . and Leon is getting LARGER!


594 posted on 11/10/2008 5:34:03 AM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (If Benito Mussolini was IL DUCE, Barack Obama is ILL DOUCHE!)
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To: Lmo56

Excellant analysis. Glad you reposted it.


595 posted on 11/10/2008 5:52:36 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Lmo56
Obama and the DNC - THEY KNEW !!!

"What did they know and when did they know it" will become the mantra again across the land.

596 posted on 11/10/2008 5:55:34 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: arrogantsob

The electors are STATE electors and are not federally chosen. They answer to the state they are from.


597 posted on 11/10/2008 5:56:59 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So who in the state do we contact? The SOS? Ours is a Republican.


598 posted on 11/10/2008 6:00:54 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

I don’t know if we dare contact electors but I would call the Republican office and have a chat.


599 posted on 11/10/2008 6:12:25 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Calpernia
Just thinking this AM that the wording of any orders by the SCOTUS and the media will have a large effect on how the American people react. The SCOTUS must stick together and spell out their decision in great detail. They must have no resending opinion, no weakness. The MSM needs to follow through without speculation and hype.........

We're done for!

600 posted on 11/10/2008 6:19:27 AM PST by hoosiermama
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