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SCOTUS SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1 (Unconfirmed, see thread research)
Atlas Shrugs ^

Posted on 11/07/2008 6:47:37 PM PST by mnehring

This is interesting. Souter tells Obama to produce the vault copy by December 1, 2008. I believe the messiah will defy the Justices.

Who will force the issue? Who wants to open up that pandora's box?  Imagine if there is something on that birth certificate that  disqualifies Obama from the office of the President.  What are you going to do? Start a civil war? There will be blood in the streets you try to enforce the rule of law. This should have happened before the election. Obambi knows it too.

Here is the fraud report first reported at Atlas.

The Supreme Court and Obama's Birth Certificate organicpeas

If The Supreme Court Decides…?

At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.

"I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect."

Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: bc; bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; hi2008; judiciary; obama; obamagate; obamatransitionfile; ruling; scotus; souter
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To: Silly

Come on Joe, stand up...lol...


281 posted on 11/07/2008 8:49:59 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Paved Paradise

Did I SAY that? NO.

I said “abide by the rules, or have them enforced.”

The rules are: only natural-born citizens may become POTUS, and rioting is prohibited.

Violate those rules, and the subsequent loud metallic noise will be a million bolts closing on loaded chambers, prepared to enforce the rules.


282 posted on 11/07/2008 8:51:15 PM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: txflake

Hey You!,,,

Lurk mode here,,,(prone to cussin’)...;0)


283 posted on 11/07/2008 8:53:10 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: DJ MacWoW

All that is fine but has no bearing on the Constitutional issue. Presumably states could refused to certify the vote of rogue Electors but that would not stop the activities required by the Constitution and federal law.

Advisory laws, expectations, pledges or hopes have no bearing on fact that the US Constitution says nothing about how Electors will/must vote only that States can appoint them any way they wish.

Electors are elected by the popular vote but after that they are not under any other control. A state could presumably remove them but there is no mechanism to replace them since state laws have them elected by the popular vote.
It would be a nightmare particularly if there were parties controlling the legislature which differ from the party of the elected electors.


284 posted on 11/07/2008 8:53:14 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: mnehrling

Rush is like many who believe the Dems are all-knowing (esp Hillary). It is bewildering to me the power people see in the Dems. Bush is in charge now. I have heard many say if there was anything to this, Hillary would have mentioned it. She hasn’t been first lady for 8 years, and Obama was a nothing then.


285 posted on 11/07/2008 8:54:21 PM PST by PghBaldy (Palin is the winner of the election. Obama has to deal with the economy, and will destroy it.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

All Obama has to do is show the Chief Justice the original birth certificate. Nothing need be released to the public.


286 posted on 11/07/2008 8:54:27 PM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: kabar

Yes I do realize that Obama is a citizen. There is no question about that. The issue arises as to whether he is of natural-born status as required by the Constitution. Which if one of his parents is an alien then he is not granted natural born status per the Act of 1790. And since there is no other law regarding natural born status this is where the issue arises.


287 posted on 11/07/2008 8:54:39 PM PST by Conservative Capitalist
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To: PghBaldy

Not to mention all the FBI files...


288 posted on 11/07/2008 8:58:03 PM PST by mnehring
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To: uncbob

Where in the Const. does it say HOW this can be addressed? I’m afraid the FF were naive in thinking we would remain a moral nation, with only honest men running. There is no process for determination when there is a question, unlike impeachment, which is clearly spelled out.


289 posted on 11/07/2008 8:58:22 PM PST by PghBaldy (Palin is the winner of the election. Obama has to deal with the economy, and will destroy it.)
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To: tpanther

Any document (BC) is “sealed” protected when used as evidence in a court preceeding. Since Davis filed his FofI suit the day before BO arrived, I’m prone to think that is why we got all the information on the net that it was “sealed”.


290 posted on 11/07/2008 8:58:47 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: mnehrling

WOW.......if he does not produce it...the electoral college will disqualify him. They have already said...by December 1st, 2008. If he is disqualified...his campaign along with Biden are also disqualified...and it would then fall to McCain.


291 posted on 11/07/2008 8:59:15 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Fred Nerks
"I also believe that Obama was supposed to or wanted to lose so that a bloody revolution could be started in Chicago and DC. He was quite surprised when he won and was deflated at his rally there and the crowd that was supposed to rush the White House at around midnight, (complete with Communist flags) fizzled as well.

I'm totally convinced you are correct!

Sounds like the Odinga gambit.....machetes, tire necklaces and church burnings.

I wonder if 0bambi signed any shira accords like Odinga....?

292 posted on 11/07/2008 8:59:25 PM PST by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: shield

Keep reading, the original post at Atlas Shrugged may not be true.. also, I think the consensus is Biden would get it.. Frankly, we haven’t been down this potential road before so we are all guessing at what would happen IF true.


293 posted on 11/07/2008 9:01:34 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
He won:

Alabama-9
California-55
Colorado-9
Connecticut-7
DC-3
Florida-27
Hawaii-4
Maine-4
Maryland-10
Massachusetts-12
Michigan-17
Mississippi-6
Nevada-5
New Mexico-5
North Carolina-15
Ohio-20
Oregon-7
Vermont-3
Virginia-13
Washington-11
Wisconsin-10

272 electoral votes

294 posted on 11/07/2008 9:03:09 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: hoosiermama
According to lawyers on an earlier thread there would be no damage, therefore no standing, before the election...interesting - it seems there were questions about McCain's citizenship and qualification to serve as Prez because he was born in Panama - having nothing to hide because he was born on a military base and thus qualified, McCain apparently produced the required documentation and the questions resolved - if this was a legitimate issue for McCain, it certainly would seem to be one that Obama should be required to answer, and the fact that he's stonewalling certainly should raise a red flag for any fair-minded citizen.......
295 posted on 11/07/2008 9:03:24 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: DJ MacWoW

Oh well, that was pretty close call.. so electors going rogue over pending action wouldn’t change it..


296 posted on 11/07/2008 9:04:24 PM PST by mnehring
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To: PghBaldy

Sorry but these laws passed muster.


297 posted on 11/07/2008 9:04:48 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: spokeshave

he would have had to promise something in return for all that money he received from the middle east, I imagine...but he didn’t need to make a written agreement with the muslims like odinga did in Kenya...he surrounded himself with muslims and arabs in the US in plain sight.


298 posted on 11/07/2008 9:05:13 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Help me out.. in one of the responses to these lawsuits, didn’t one of Obama’s lawyers say there was something ‘embarrassing’ in the Birth Certificate which is why they aren’t releasing it? Clever lawyer excuse?


299 posted on 11/07/2008 9:05:42 PM PST by mnehring
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To: arrogantsob

There are laws and penalties for faithless electors.


300 posted on 11/07/2008 9:06:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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