Posted on 10/28/2008 4:46:09 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
A poll was conducted back In June 2008, and it found that the number of Hillary supporters that were going to vote for Obama was 58%, with 28% going to vote for McCain. The rest were undecided.
In September, another poll was conducted, and it found that things were unchanged for Obama. This poll found that the percentages were still 58% going to vote for Obama and 28% going to vote for for McCain, with the remainder still undecided.
If the remainder ends up splitting evenly, that will give McCain 35% of Hillary supporters that will vote for him and 65% for Obama.
18 million people voted for Hillary in the Democratic primaries. 35% of those 18 million voting for McCain on Nov. 4th, 2008, will translate into about 6.4 million votes for McCain - votes that Obama will not get - and would have gotten had he chosen Hillary as his veep.
This may account for why the MSM pollsters have skewed their polls and rampantly oversampled Dems, and undersampled Repubs - along with tainting their polls with extra blacks and college students being polled.
6 million plus axtra voters for McCain...
Wow.
Since early voting numbers show that few college students are turning out to vote early for Obama, even though he and his campaign have been pleading with them to do so, and with some polls showing that Obama's turnout of black voters won't be much better than John Kerry's were, the Obama campaign is worried.
This election is far from over. The polls are much, much closer than many realize.
LOL, to post 19
GO PUMAS!
They aren’t voting FOR us, they are voting against the Obamanation who stole the nomination from Hillary, just as he will steal the election from McCain if given the chance.
I say that if I believed polls from reputable pollsters I'd think Obama was up by 13 in Pennsylvania. If I'm not going to believe them why should I believe some unknown, unnamed poll just because it slams Hillary?
will emphasize his connections.... "his" now in right place.
What is your source on early voting. Several states NC, and GA early voting is running 9 - 10% higher than 2004 with a week still to go. Have totals from 2004 need by Party, Race and Sex to make a valid comparision.
Good points. What I havebeen reading form them is that they want there pary back from Pelosi and Reid and Dean (I have spent too much time at their blogs, lol) and they want it to be a centrist party again. With all that said, your points are very good ones.
Because not all Democrats are moonbats. Obama is just unacceptable to mainstream America.
I have no doubt that many of them will vote for McCain/Palin. We’ll see if the number is enough to overcome ACORN.
Quite simply the PUMA’s hate Obama’s guts for stealing the election from HRC through voter fraud and not even vetting her for VP. I will admit that if McCain had not chosen Sarah Palin and instead a ‘boring white guy’ some of these women may have sat out the election. However, despite the prognostications of the pundits Sarah has attracted a number of PUMA’s to McCain’s side-one because she is a woman and secondly she shows the proper respect to HRC in recognizing her for her efforts and finally because she is intelligent, friendly and charismatic. Finally the PUMA”s have been asked by their leadership to lie to pollsters to screw up Obama’s planning and strategy. That’s how much they hate Obama.
“Antone” ummm, that would be “anyone”. Sorry
That's an insult to newbies. [;-)
I like this better:
"Obama has been around since the Fall." That's funny!
I wonder if that poll is taking into account that many of the PUMA’s are telling the pollsters that they are voting for Obama when they are really going to vote for McCain. I don’t think so!!!!!
My bet is that he’s gonna get a lot less of the Hillary votes than the pollsters or Obama ever thought possible. I personally know 6 Hillary supporters from the primaries, and they are all voting for McCain now! I couldn’t be happier!
Obama has been around since the Fall.
Excellent observation! He is a serpent deceiving the unsuspecting masses.
I’ve been saying this for a LONG time, and been greeted with skepticism by some on this forum.
However I used a number half as big as this.
Go and look at some of their blogs.
They are extremely angry with the DNC and the Obama campaign for what they perceive as having stolen the nomination from Hillary Clinton.
Maybe it’s the Hillary effect. Tell the pollsters one thing. Vote another.
If this is anywhere near accurate, Obama will lose in a landslide on election day.
Even 10% would be a devastating and unsustainable loss. The mere percentages of dems sitting out is probably enough to cost Obama the election.
This is also important when the media spins the early voting.
It matters very little how many Dem ballots are turned in. Which way did they vote?
Keep the following states in mind because they are high risks to vote against Obama because of their high affiliation with Hillary clinton:
West Virginia 67-26 Clinton
Rhode Island 58-40 Clinton
Ohio 54-44 Clinton
Pennsylvannia 55-45 Clinton
Florida 50-33 Clinton
Nevada 51-45 Clinton
New Hampshire 39-36 Clinton
Yeah, Obama does not need any of those states. He will be fine. This is what dems said about Obama when the primaries were over. He cannot win the key states. That is also why the national numbers cannot be reconciled to the state numbers. If it is close in the National polls and yet he has huge margins in the meaningless liberal states of Mass, NY, and Calif— how can he be doing well in the Clinton states? No one dares ask these questions.
Consider this quotation from a diehard Obama supporter analyzing this question in May of 2008:
http://www.electiondefensealliance.org/Primaries_2008_Managed_Manipulation
“By way of corroboration of this phenomenon, in public dialogue with a major-party polling consultant the following shocking admission was made: if the Democratic candidate is not leading by 10% going into the election in their internal polling, they expect the race to be a toss-up. This internal candidate polling is—unlike polls published for public consumption—intended to paint a ruthlessly accurate picture of contest dynamics to help the party prioritize expensive get-out-the-vote drives and last-minute media blitzes. The fact that even major-party pollsters must adjust their own results to account for the “mystery swing” to the right is a strong indication that much the same distorting protocol is already being employed in public pre-election polling.”
Several states NC, and GA early voting is running 9 - 10% higher than 2004
I went to vote early today in Indy and there were so many blacks standing in line I couldn’t help but surmise about how many of them were voting for the umteenth time. At one time Marian County had registrations at 105% of eligible voters and I don’t think anyone has addressed that issue like in other states. Acorn has had their fraudulent workers all over the city.
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