Posted on 10/11/2008 8:58:36 AM PDT by richnwise
Obama would have to be extremely lacking cognitive aptitude to try and run for president without being a natural born citizen......ince Obama and I share one thing in common, and let me stress the key operative word of that first part - "one", I thought that I would share my birth certificate (front and back, with signature) with the world, minus the personal stuff. Since we were both born in Hawaii, and our copies of our official birth certificate would be on record at the same place, I would think that his would look at least a little like mine, especially since I actually went to the Health Department and paid the $10.00 to get mine while standing in line.
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Ya gotta be a citizen for nine years to be a US Senator. Just as with POTUS, this qualification is contained in the US Constitution. IMO, nobody verified whether this requirement was met.....it was just assumed.
I can’t type, so I gave a short version. ;)
My wife and I got US passports a couple of years ago, and our old photocopied certificates were not sufficient for proof of citizenship in this new era of increased government scrutiny that seems to apply to everyone except Mexican nationals. We had to go to our respective county records departments and get the new “certified” printouts (mine from Lane County Oregon and hers from Clark County Washington). Both were similar in appearance to the claimed 0bama certificate.
From the my.barackobama site (community blog)
Mr. Owens,
Barack Hussein Obama registered at a post office in Hawaii. The effective registration date was September 4, 1980.
His registration number is 61-1125539-1.
Daniel Amon
Public Affairs Specialist “
Re: Yes, Obama registered for the draft | Report to Admin Reply
By Jeffery from Magnolia, TX Sep 5th 2008 at 10:52 am EDT (Updated Sep 5th 2008 at 10:52 am EDT)
Unofficial (and unsubstantuated?) email from an alleged Selective Service employee outside the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requirements to a private individual.
While I am not calling anyone a liar, Obama was attending college in California on September 4th, 1980.
We need an OFFICIAL statement from both Senator Obama and the Selective Service with a release of his registration document (redacted of personal information) to settle this.
Some are claiming that his grandfather (a WWII veteran) illegally filed the registration. Others are claiming that in January 2008, Selective Service created a record for Senator Obama.
Other still believe he did not register and are calling on Selective Service Director Willian Chatfield to issue an official statement.
Re: Yes, Obama registered for the draft | Report to Admin Reply
By Jeffery from Magnolia, TX Sep 13th 2008 at 2:28 am EDT (Updated Sep 13th 2008 at 2:28 am EDT)
It appears that while Senator Obama was away at college in California, his World War II veteran Grandfather filed a Selective Service registration for Obama in Hawaii after Obama refused to register.
The signature on the registration form is not Senator Obama’s signature. That is why Senator Obama refuses to release his Selective Service registration.
Barack Hussein Obama registered at a post office in Hawaii. The effective registration date was September 4, 1980.
His registration number is 61-1125539-1.
-——His parents were married Feb 21, 1961-——
Feb 21, 1965 Malcolm X assassinaited
Feb 21, 1970 weather underground bombs Murtaugh home
Creepy coincidences.
That would exclude any child of a military parent born overseas. US Bases are not sovereign territory. The term "natural born" has nothing to do with where you were born or on what soil. It has to do with were you a citizen at birth or did you become on later.
I wonder why your date of birth is Jan. 16, but the signature on the back is dated Jan. 7?
Is that just hang-loose “Hawaiian Time?”
:)
It was from the United States that Churchill received his last high honor: honorary citizenship of the United States. Pressed for tenaciously by Kay Halle, a friend of both the Churchills and the Kennedys, it was proclaimed by President Kennedy on 9 April 1963. Because Churchill was not well enough to cross the Atlantic, Randolph received the honor on his father's behalf during a ceremony at the White House. Among the guests was ninety-two-year-old Bernard Baruch, with whom Churchill had worked closely in the First World War, and Averell Harriman, with whom he had worked closely in the Second. Kennedy's words encapsulated Churchill's achievement. "In the dark days and darker nights when England stood alone," Kennedy declared, "and most men save Englishmen despaired of England's life — he mobilized the English language and sent it into battle."Churchill, in London, watched the ceremony on television. In his message of acceptance, which was read out by Randolph, he referred to the Anglo-American theme that had been so much a part of his energies for six decades: "I am, as you know, half American by blood, and the story of my association with that mighty and benevolent nation goes back nearly ninety years, to the day of my father's marriage." In "this century of storm and tragedy," he said, "I contemplate with high satisfaction the constant factor of the interwoven and upward progress of our peoples. Our comradeship and our brotherhood in war were unexampled. We stood together, and because of that fact the free world now stands." Of his new honor, the first honorary citizenship to be granted by the Congress of the United States to a foreigner, Churchill declared: "Mr President, your action illuminates the theme of unity of the English-speaking peoples to which I have devoted a large part of my life."
The ceremony over, a message of congratulations came from the British Prime Minister, Harold Macmillan, who had just given a dinner for a number of senior American and British wartime generals. They had unanimously agreed to send him a message, Macmillan wrote, "recalling the days when we worked together under your leadership. We wished also to express our delight at your versatility, which allows you to combine being a loyal British subject with being a good United States' citizen."
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Churchill was buried in Bladon churchyard, near Blenheim Palace, where he had born, in a grave next to those of his English father and American mother. That same day, more than three thousand miles away, sixty people gathered in the rose garden of Franklin Roosevelt's home in Hyde Park on the Hudson, where Churchill so often been a guest. They were there to mark the eighty-third anniversary of Roosevelt's birth. At that very moment, in Churchill's honor, the Liberty Bell in New York's Middle Collegiate Church, which had tolled the inauguration and death of all American Presidents since George Washington, tolled ninety-one times: ninety for the years of Churchill's life, and one more in recognition of his lifelong links and friendship with America and the Americans.
I find it absolutely disgraceful that a candidate for the leader of the free world (at least for now) is not subjected to fine scrutiny. It seems that these people are just accepted on face value and their bio doesn’t have to be proven as accurate. The person with the finger on the button doesn’t even have to be deemed psychologically sound. We will just elect any fool that says “I want to be President”, it seems. Obama is prove positive of that.
Look at the rest, Jan 7 1994. That was when I picked up the copy from the Health Department in Honolulu.
“since Obama’s mother was an American citizen, doesn’t that make him an American citizen, even if he was born overseas?”
It isn’t an issue of citizenship. The law requires a person be born in America to run for the office of the presidency.
IIRC, that message from Amon was dated Aug. 12, 2008. BHO went to Hawaii on or about Aug. 7, 2008.
BTW, even IF BHO actually registered on Sept 4, 1980, he was in violation of the law. That was about a month AFTER he was required to register.
This whole mess is the result of the Secy’s. of State of the 50 United States not doing their jobs!!!!!!!
I agree.
I was responding to your comment about the certificate posted on the blog. It's interesting in the sense that it indicates that Hawaii had a vulnerable vital records system, if they were handing out xerox copies of originals and validating them as proof of birth.
I may be wrong, but is not a true Certificate of Live Birth submitted by the hospital to the proper legal authority of a State? And then when recorded and processed the parents then receive a certified copy.
It seems to me that a Certification of Live Birth only indicates that the infant in question was a living individual and the all the information concerning the birth was given to the authorities by the mother.
The law requires that one be a “natural born citizen”.
John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. And George Romney, when he ran for president in ‘68, faced some questions because he was born in Mexico of American parents. As far as I know, there haven’t been court rulings or any legal test of what “natural born” citizen means.
No. Mother's age, length of residence in US after her 18th birthday, place of infant's birth, etc. etc. It ain't that simple.
BHO's commie mommie gave birth at 17, we don't really know where. Apparently, neither does Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama, aka "Barry Soetoro." That's the name he used in Indonesia, where he was apparently officially adopted by an Indonesian citizen. He may, or may not have had an Indonesian Passport when he traveled to Pakistan. He apparently did not have an American Passport at the time.
All a reasonable man can say with any degree of certainty is that this "doesn't smell right." Beyond that, the trail has been very nicely obfuscated.
I don't see what all the fuss is about.
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