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Are we buying a $700 billion 'maybe'?
MSN Money ^ | 09/26/08 | Jim Jubak

Posted on 09/26/2008 5:51:19 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Are we buying a $700 billion 'maybe'?

Just by seeking aid through the government's bailout, financial companies could be putting themselves at risk. And we wouldn't know for months whether the plan was working.

By Jim Jubak

What if they gave a $700 billion bailout and nobody came? It's a real possibility. And it would doom the plan to rescue Wall Street with $700 billion in taxpayer money.

All the hearings and late-night meetings have focused on how to improve the plan proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke. The modifications being considered would indeed do a better job of protecting taxpayers, ensuring someone was watching while the Treasury forked out the moola and giving taxpayers some stake in the companies they'd be bailing out. (See my column "Let's not rush to blow $700 billion.")

The proposals being discussed now, like the original plan, pretty much assume it'd work for the government to buy the busted assets that now choke the financial markets -- and that all that's left to question are details like how much the government would pay and who would manage the portfolio.

Throwing $700 billion at Wall Street, everyone seems to believe, would restore confidence in the financial markets, repair the balance sheets of U.S. banks and other financial institutions, and get the great national borrowing-and-lending machine back up and running so the economy would start creating jobs again.

But the odds are no better than 50-50 that even an improved plan could accomplish that near-term fix -- to say nothing of reforming the financial markets to avoid a recurrence of this crisis or a similar one.

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.moneycentral.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: 700billion; assetdeflation; bailout; chainreaction

1 posted on 09/26/2008 5:51:24 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Uncle Ike; RSmithOpt; jiggyboy; 2banana; Travis McGee; OwenKellogg; 31R1O; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/26/2008 5:52:29 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

There are no guarantees that this or any other plan will work.


3 posted on 09/26/2008 5:54:05 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: kabar

So how much reduction in risk would we be buying for the $700B? Are there cheaper remedies available? Or must we rush and sign at the dotted line, and not worry our little heads about it?


4 posted on 09/26/2008 5:58:06 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: TigerLikesRooster

WaMu common stock being reported this morning at one tenth of a cent per share.

Guess there’s a reason they call them dudes “brokers”!!!


5 posted on 09/26/2008 5:58:36 AM PDT by djf (Sound of gunfire, off in the distance, I'm getting used to that now...)
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To: kabar
Well, maybe so. Still he really makes a good argument on how it could unravel.
6 posted on 09/26/2008 5:59:42 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: kabar

Seems to me this is kind of like you have a child who plays with matches and sets a small fire in your garage.

You reward him by buying him a Bic lighter and a propane torch.


7 posted on 09/26/2008 6:01:30 AM PDT by djf (Sound of gunfire, off in the distance, I'm getting used to that now...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

* OPINION
* SEPTEMBER 26, 2008

The Public Deserves a Better Deal
By JOHN PAULSON

Under the Treasury plan the taxpayer pays the price. Under a Preferred plan, the shareholders of the firms who created the problems bear the first loss. Who do you think should pay?

Before committing $700 billion of our money, we should encourage Congress to take a few extra days to get this legislation right.

Excerpt

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122238667352477103.html


8 posted on 09/26/2008 6:04:39 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: djf
To put the $700 billion in perspective, this year's $3 trillion federal budget will run a deficit of $500 billion and SS and Medicare/Medicaid represent an unfunded liability of $60 trillion.
9 posted on 09/26/2008 6:06:45 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: KeyLargo
It sounds like we've got the wrong Paulson in charge, doesn't it?

However, this guy is also "chairman of a NY based investment firm" so I would like to know where his bets have been made before automatically signing on.

10 posted on 09/26/2008 6:19:57 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (I'll back the bailout if Angelo Mozilo lets me borrow his Lamborghini on Saturday nights.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Travis McGee; Calpernia; M. Espinola
$ 700 Billion. That figure ought to be adjusted upwards to reflect potential risk to the American taxpayer. Total risk probably exceeds $ 2.5 Trillion. Wait. It gets worse.

If these securities are marked to market how much would they be worth _____________ ? About 20 cents on the dollar is about right. At this time. In a year, maybe 15 cents or 10 cents on the dollar would reflect reality. All those toxic mortgages. Massive fraud. Sold to the whole world.

Shame, shame, shame . . .

Congress is being asked to pay sky high values only because Paulson set the values that way. He also expects that regardless of what happens the companies involved will never face legal consequences. Very curious situation. He wants lifetime 'get out of jail free cards' issued to all his cronies. And himself.

I say, 'No way, no how, go to jail . . .'

11 posted on 09/26/2008 3:48:16 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan


12 posted on 09/26/2008 11:25:20 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It’s worse Wall street is trying to shove a $700 billion dollar time bob down our throats.


13 posted on 09/27/2008 12:58:18 AM PDT by Tempest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNlXgzzdJQA)
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