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HUMANE - ISRAEL
Posted on 09/02/2008 2:23:50 AM PDT by PRePublic
Israel's extraordinary help for the Arab "Palestinians" should overshadow any consequences in it's war on terror stemming out of "Palestinian" initiated violence
Let alone current contributions and aid, even in the years that the "Palestinians" love to refer to as "occupation", just How "bad" was it really for them?
1967 - 1993
* Economic prosperity, Israeli investment in "Palestinian" business, industry and infrastructure helped the PA GNP grow 13% annually between 1967 and 1980, per capita income grew tenfold, unemployment dropped from 40% to below 5%.
* Standard of living soared, Health gains: Israel built 166 clinics, provided universal insurance and medical programs for "Palestinians". Mortality rates plummeted by 2/3 (1970-1990). Israel also expanded water, sewage and electric systems.
* Political and civil freedoms, Freedom of association, trade unions, civic organizations and opposition parties permitted. Voting rights extended to poorer classes and to women for local elections (for the first time in 'Palestinian" - Arabs' history).
* Freedom of the press, even for extreme anti Israel opinions.
* Educational development, Israel built 6 universities and 20 community colleges for the "Palestinians". illiteracy dropped from 50% to 30% between 1967 and 1980.
* Jobs, Except during terrorists upsurges, Israel employs about 120,000 "Palestinians" from the disputed territories. Their earning accounts for the chunk of the income of their overall population.
* Funding, Israel allocated $90 million between 1993-1999, facilitated investments in "Palestinian"' private sector and granted 2,522 fellowships to "Palestinians" for professional training between 1995-1999.
Israel contributed more annually than even Saudi Arabia until 1973. Kuwait and Libya did not match Israeli donations until 1980. (Bard pg. 182).
* Refugees, Between 1949 and 1971, Israel repatriated 140,000 "Palestinian" refugees who are now full Israeli citizens.
ISRAEL'S IMPRESSIVE AID TO ARABS
Without any feedback from the other side
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Already in 2000 Israel was struggling so hard to keep on being...
Israel's Humane Army
The head of the International Law Branch of the Israeli Defense Forces talks about Israeli restraint, and efforts to reduce Palestinian casualties.
Jerusalem - November 15, 2000
Many people tend to compare between the current situation and the Intifada of 1987-92. I would like to explain to you in a few words the differences, from my perspective, in relation to the current situation and the Intifada in 1987...
http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/middleeast/Israels_Humane_Army.asp
Israel Is Much Too Nice
By Irwin N. Graulich July 30, 2006
Just like America, Israel is much too kind to its enemies. Had America fought the war in Iraq in the same manner used by Roosevelt during WWII, Iraq would have been over 2 years ago--and it would be much closer to a real democracy.
Israel--the only country to use rubber bullets against evil; the only country to use pinpoint targeted assassination to destroy monsters who plan mass murder against civilians; the only country to drop leaflets written in Arabic to warn population centers that the bombs are coming; the only country to absorb rocket attacks against totally innocent civilians for 6 years with almost no response, gets labeled, "the bad guys."
Imagine, tiny Israel continuously being blamed for using "excessive, disproportionate force" by the media, the Arab/Muslim world, the Vatican, Ireland and that ultimate pimp, Jacques Chirac. Please, I need a barf bag!
These bleeding heart leftist/liberals want us to believe that the innocent (sic) Lebanese government and its people never saw any of the 13,000 rockets being shipped around their country which were pointed towards Israel. No Lebanese ever came across 20,000 Hezbollah fighters with weapons over their shoulders and heavy artillery, which covered 90% of the territory south of Beirut. Prime Minister Fouad Siniora knew nothing about large weapons shipments sent via plane, ship and truck from Syria, Iran and Egypt. Please, I need a barf bag!
The reason that the Arab/Muslim world uses the terminology, "excessive force on innocent civilians," is because according to the Koran they are supposed to be tough and win the battles. Yet a small bunch of bible studying Yeshiva boys and "weak looking" Jews in Israel completely decimated all those tough Arab countries in 1948, 1967 and 1973.
The Muslim world of over 1 billion people can never defeat 5 million Jews, no matter how hard they try--and they all know it. So they have turned to the Joseph Goebbals method of "Propaganda Weaponry," and most of the world, except for America, has fallen for it. America is without question, a much better, more moral country than all the rest of the world combined, by a factor of 1000. The entire world sees this fact quite clearly, which is the reason why America is constantly being criticized. It is difficult for other nations to see goodness prevail, when they had absolutely nothing to do with it.
So how and why did all this begin? As usual, it is blamed on the age old Arab-Israeli problem, a code word for the Muslim-Jewish battle, aka Islam versus the Judeo/Christian world. According to the Koran, it should be a lot easier for Islamicists to prevail, since they have Mohammed on their side. Well, the God of Moses seems to be superior, a smack in the face to over 1 billion people.
There is a man in Iran who considers himself to be a present day Messiah, a prophet cut from the same kaffiah as Mohammed. His name--Ahmadinejad (pronounced "A--mad--dog--on--Jihad"). Denying The Holocaust, calling Israel a Nazi state, labeling Americans infidels are just a few of his many talents. Unfortunately, it is people like him and Osama that make Islam appear to be a total fraud.
The crazy mullahs throughout the Arab/Muslim world refuse to acknowledge the direct, obvious involvement in current events of the One true God on earth, who began his reign in the Old and New Testament. Of course the secular media will never acknowledge an obvious truth when it emanates from a religious perspective. They are simply too sophisticated to believe in so called "voodoo."
The key message of Judaism and Christianity is to make God's world a better place. It seems that God checked his "Moral Radar" here on earth, only to discover the evil of Radical Islam, a cancer matasticizing throughout the Middle East. To protect this terrific world from evil, God initially used the Palestinians, who He first tried to placate by permitting Israel to give up some land which He originally promised to the Jews.
God made the Jews leave Gaza "temporarily," in order to show the world that even when Israel painfully gives up territory without getting a thing in return, peace is still impossible. Instead of taking the greenhouses that Jews built in Gaza to create an industry which would cultivate and export flowers to Europe, thus creating a vibrant economy, the Palestinian Arabs immediately destroyed all the irrigation piping and greenhouses because "the Jews" built them. No thank you's, no gratitude--only terrorism in return. Please--I need a barf bag!
God was not very happy with the deeds of Palestinian Arabs heaped upon the original Palestinians--the Jews. So, the God of the Torah made the evil Palestinian Arabs sneak into Israeli territory and kidnap Gilad Shalit, an Israeli soldier. Big mistake, because this action gave Israel the moral authority to "burn evil out of the Palestinian midst," as the Bible teaches.
Somehow, the world reaction to this event was not the usual overreaction condemning Israel. Palestinian ingratitude was recognized and except for a few radical leftists, the coffee shops throughout Europe ignored the situation, allowing the socialists to drink their morning kava and read the newspapers.
Again, the secular world has not paid attention to one of the most important statements in the Bible--"Those who bless the Jews will be blessed, and those who curse the Jews will be cursed." No country in history has blessed the Jews more than America, and no country is as blessed today. No countries throughout history have cursed the Jews more than the Arab/Muslim world, and no countries have been more cursed than those nations today.
With Southern Evil being contained, Northern Evil was now growing uncontrollably to Israel's north. So again, God pulled a few more strings and "allowed" evil men to cross the border into Israel and kidnap two Israeli soldiers. Unfortunately, those Hezbollah terrorists have "Free Will," which resulted in four dead Israelis.
So now the cancer is finally being cleaned out by the IDF surgeons, in one of the most ethical war surgeries on record. Decent religious people around the world understand that there is no need to worry about goodness being triumphant, since the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is with Israel. This is the reason why Israel can do virtually whatever it desires against the evil terrorists and the nations that harbor them, without much of a response.
Let the critics say whatever they want. Ahmadinejad is just a hooker for the mullah pimps in his country, who all realize that the prophecies found in the Koran are just not happening. Quite a rude awakening for those Islamic religious figures who see more truth and strength in the Old and New Testament; which is why they are trying to go nuclear.
What these Iranian fools do not realize is that if they attack Israel or America, they will receive the same results as the Palestinians and Lebanese. So bring it on Mr. Mad Dog Jihad, and you can rest assured that the Iranian oil fields will have signs in Hebrew very shortly. And the world will not complain much when they see their gas pumps reading $1.00 a gallon.
http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/8988.htm
TOO NICE TO WIN? ISRAEL'S DILEMMA
Tuesday, July 25, 2006
From John Podhoretz in the NY Post: WHAT if liberal democracies have now evolved to a point where they can no longer wage war effectively because they have achieved a level of humanitarian concern for others that dwarfs any really cold-eyed pursuit of their own national interests?
What if the universalist idea of liberal democracy - the idea that all people are created equal - has sunk in so deeply that we no longer assign special value to the lives and interests of our own people as opposed to those in other countries?
What if this triumph of universalism is demonstrated by the Left's insistence that American and Israeli military actions marked by an extraordinary concern for preventing civilian casualties are in fact unacceptably brutal? And is also apparent in the Right's claim that a war against a country has nothing to do with the people but only with that country's leaders?
Can any war be won when this is the nature of the discussion in the countries fighting the war? Can any war be won when one of the combatants voluntarily limits itself in this manner?
Could World War II have been won by Britain and the United States if the two countries did not have it in them to firebomb Dresden and nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Didn't the willingness of their leaders to inflict mass casualties on civilians indicate a cold-eyed singleness of purpose that helped break the will and the back of their enemies? Didn't that singleness of purpose extend down to the populations in those countries in those days, who would have and did support almost any action at any time that would lead to the deaths of Germans and Japanese?
What if the tactical mistake we made in Iraq was that we didn't kill enough Sunnis in the early going to intimidate them and make them so afraid of us they would go along with anything? Wasn't the survival of Sunni men between the ages of 15 and 35 the reason there was an insurgency and the basic cause of the sectarian violence now?
If you can't imagine George W. Bush issuing such an order, is there any American leader you could imagine doing so?
And if America can't do it, can Israel? Could Israel - even hardy, strong, universally conscripted Israel - possibly stomach the bloodshed that would accompany the total destruction of Hezbollah?
If Lebanon's 300-plus civilian casualties are already rocking the world, what if it would take 10,000 civilian casualties to finish off Hezbollah? Could Israel inflict that kind of damage on Lebanon - not because of world opinion, but because of its own modern sensibilities and its understanding of the value of every human life?
Where do these questions lead us?
What if Israel's caution about casualties among its own soldiers and Lebanese civilians has demonstrated to Hezbollah and Hamas that as long as they can duck and cover when the missiles fly and the bombs fall, they can survive and possibly even thrive?
What if Israel has every capability of achieving its aim, but cannot unleash itself against a foe more dangerous, more unscrupulous, more unprincipled and more barbaric than even the monstrous leaders of the Intifada it managed to quell after years of suicide attacks?
And as for the United States, what if we have every tool at our disposal to win a war - every weapons system we could want manned by the most superbly trained military in history - except the ability to match or exceed our antagonists in ruthlessness?
Is this the horrifying paradox of 21st century warfare? If Israel and the United States cannot be defeated militarily in any conventional sense, have our foes discovered a new way to win? Are they seeking victory through demoralization alone - by daring us to match them in barbarity and knowing we will fail?
Arabs should kiss kind Israel's feet
For...
"Taking it" for so long.
Looking for, trying, sweating in efforts NOT to hit at ANY CIVILIANS (in anti terrorists operations).
For taking care of Arabs in their country far better than they're in their own -- most -- Arab countries.
For not pushing US to boycott the Arabs as Arab-Muslims do so with Europe.
For taking in the Arab "Palestinians" when no Arab nation wants them while the guilty part of those 'refugees' is still Arab Leaders', that have chased them out in 1948 with promises of 'defeating' Israel, and all these years did NOT let Western aid to reach those poor in order to defame Israel.
For giving land to the Arab SETTLERS (with no more than a recent history there) while NON of the ARAB GOLIATH LAND-COUNTRIES would give them an inch.
For being overly morally right in feeling guilty for DEFENDING THEIR lives against Arab Muslims mass murderer-terrorists, that comes on the terrible expense of some Arabists using it to tarnish in a silly false "pointing-finger' at kind Israel.
For not treating the Arabs in a racial discriminatory even though danger is on every restaurant, bus, bus-stops, markets, etc., Would they differentiate, no Arab Genocide Bomber would be able to mingle in & Comit the atrocities.
For NOT behaving like their "brotherly" Arab-Syria Arab Jordan (& others) that have just simply massacred 10,000 (some estimate 25,000) in one month after Radical Muslim "Palestinians" started uprising.
For not AS banging daily the UN & International media with real charges on "Palestinian" Arab leaders' crimes on their own people's kids & on Israeli civilians, While Islamo Arab world feels a 'duty' to defame this struggling victim Israel via blatant vicious libels & lies & never apologize even when exposed.
Doing It the Arab Way
Faces of the Israeli Army
By SHALOM FREEDMAN
A PSALM IN JENIN
By Brett Goldberg
304 pages. Modan Publishing House.
In March 2002, Israel suffered the worst month of terror attacks in its history. Over two hundred people were killed and many hundreds more injured. This wave of attacks climaxed at Netanya�s Park Hotel, where on Seder night a suicide bomber murdered thirty people and injured scores more. In response to this horrifying crime, the Israeli government undertook the sort of military operation many Israelis had been clamoring for during the previous months. Operation Defensive Shield was launched; it turned out to be decisive in greatly reducing Palestinian terror in the following days and months.
The most well-known focus of military action during this operation was Jenin, the West Bank city considered the capital of Palestinian suicide-bombing...
Goldberg does not confine himself to the military action alone but also tells the stories of the soldiers' families. He depicts the ethnic mix of Israelis and their moral and religious strengths. The unit he concentrates upon consists in large part of what are known in Israel as "national-religious" soldiers, though it includes a good mix of other types, as well.
Remarkably, Goldberg shows soldiers fighting for their lives and, at the same time, contending with moral issues, seeking to fulfill their extremely unpleasant duties in the most humane way possible. Despite snipers nests, booby traps, ambushes, and above all their own losses and injuries, these soldiers maintain their own dignity and consideration for their enemies. Many within Israel claim this consideration was taken too far in Jenin: had Israel acted as "normal army," some say, and bombed the camp from above , sixteen of the Israelis soldiers who were killed in an ambush in the camp would still be alive today.
Goldberg's book illustrates the thesis that to truly understand the way an army works, one must look at relations within platoons and small units. The friendship networks Goldberg presents enforce our sense of how loyalty and courage play a central role in the life of the everyday soldier. There are no superheroes here, but plenty of quietly courageous people, a number of whom regrettably are lost in the battle.
Clearly and movingly written, Goldberg's book is a must read for anyone who wishes to understand the challenges Israel, its people, and its soldiers have faced in the past three years, and continue to face now.
http://www.jbooks.com/nonfiction/index/NF_Freedman2.htm
ISRAEL VS ARAB - THE WAR OF THE HUMANITARIAN VS THE UN-HUMANITARIAN
January 22, 2008
No one has been talking in the mainstream media about the daily "Palestinian" barrage of missiles aimed specifically at Israeli kids, the southern Israel under siege of "Palestinian" occupation, the trembling fear of Israeli women for their children's safety in Sderot (
Fear and trauma as rockets impact Israeli town), but everyone is up in arms
if Israel acts.
No one has been talking in mainstream media as Israel has been successfully eliminating terrorists [with unimaginable efforts in carrying it out] without any damage upon civilians in hundreds of operations, but I bet you, you'll hear them loud and clear, if its humane precision-tactics fails just once.
Just as no one in the mainstream media talks about the constant Israel VS Arab, as humanitarian vs un-humanitarian war, "Palestinian" and Hezbollah Arabs always try to draw Israel into responding in operations, awaiting cheerfully such responds to play the fake "victim" card, Israel - however - is never happy to carry out any anti terror activities, and when reluctantly it has to go ahead with it, it puts immense efforts to fail Arabs' desire for mass casualties among its civilians, Israel's struggle against Arab cruelty on its population is
relentless, but never appreciated.
Why is humanitarian Israel still (January 2008) supplying two
thirds of fuel supply to un-humanitarian "Palestinians"?
I mean, What would one expect from a self hating sickening hypocritical typical whining of the NPR reporting about a "humanitarian crisis" in Gaza? (Jan. 2008 at the height of Arab attacking rockets) What's "humanitarian" about Hamas-tan? [as twisted NPR is, it first reports of what Hamas "says" that all fuel supply is shut down, only thereafter is quotes Israel's declaration and harsh accusation that the "Palestinians" simply LIE, and that two thirds are still supplied, as if the world hasn't seen enough of the minus zero credibility of "what Palestinian Pallywood says"], the cruel terrorist militant Islamic totalitarian regime? The oppression of non Muslims (Christians per se)? The investments of its limited resources into deadly Jihad, or the criminal use of its civilians to attack Israeli civilians via rockets and other cowardice methods?
Try and make a survey, a poll on how many are really aware of the targets by the Arabs, kids! how they fire exactly when and where the children go to kindergarten (
Barrage of rockets hits Sderot as kids go to school), the fact that with God's grace the damage is low is of course totally irrelevant to Arabs' [usual] genocide attempts.
As it is rare for the NPR, it shockingly did interview some Israelis about the Hamas attack of Israeli civilians and how Israel should respond to it, as one Israeli has put it very real: "We Israelis have been setting us up in high moral standards we have a huge dilemma on how to respond".
Yet, it is rather the Arab Palestinian "victim-hood" that still manages to
generate fans.
Amazing how the terrible unromantic cult of destruction is still not seen by some as what it is, a self inflicted cult, and that no one else can ever be blamed on whatever is going on there.
And just as you thought that the Fatah is much better, you hear that the "moderate" Abbas regime decided to allocate 40% of the billions of dollars in aid [the Europeans have pledged to give] to the Hamas terror "government".
I have got news for the fake "humanitarian" singers - reporters in biased media: There's nothing humanitarian about pointing fingers anywhere outside the "Palestinian" cruel leadership and
those that elect them.
Israel suffers because Israel is BETTER!
(Written in 2003)
What happened when the Palestinian Arabs tried to take control of Jordan?
King Hussein of Jordan ejected Arafat's Palestinians in September 1970, called Black September because they were trying to take over his kingdom. King Hussein drove them into Lebanon after killing more than 10,000. The Lebanese welcomed the fleeing Palestinians into their bosom, but suddenly found themselves under attack by Arafat's Palestinians who set up a mini Terror State within Lebanon. For the next 12 years terror raged and over 100,000 Lebanese were murdered by their Palestinian brothers.
But BEAUTIFUL Israel: risks lives going DOOR to DOOR on the look out for Arab TERRORISTS.
Door to Door Risky Operations
(In Jenin...) You [IDF] went door-to-door, risking young Israeli lives, in a town that was booby trapped with explosives from top to bottom. In any other war, rockets from the air force would have been launched, demolishing everything in sight, with no regard for civilian lives. Remember Nagasaki and Hiroshima? But you - Israel, a country built on family-oriented, freedom loving people - you had to worry about civilian casualties.
http://www.joe4rep.com/KC%205-1-02.htm
Jan 6, 2006 ... In Jenin in 2002 the Israeli army sent soldiers to locate terrorists in door to door fighting rather than risk innocent civilian lives by ...
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/charen200601060710.asp
Again HUMANE & Super- restrained Israel only attacks terrorists after warning to civilians for evacuate
Instead of the mass excitement in most of the mass media to attack Israel for daring to defend itself with that silly charge of "excessive force", you never hear one word of appreciation of the immense sacrifice in it's lives and it's security for the customary warning to non combatants to leave the area before operations, including often cases of alerting even the Hamas terror leaders' wives...
An Israel Air Force aircraft bombed two structures in the Gaza Strip late Wednesday after warning their occupants to evacuate the premises http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3328799,00.html (Nov, 15 2006)
More on this:
Cox & Forkum: Disproportionate Response http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000889.html
Restraint after suicide blast in Israel,The army said the fugitives had drawn pistols before they were shot. ... Israeli officials had said they would show restraint in military operations - World News - MSNBC.com http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6379588/
Israel's Humane Army - Israel Update http://www.aish.com/Israel/articles/Israels_Humane_Army.asp
Israel's restraint in case of an attack could harm its deterrent http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/sa/v1n2p1_n.html
The call-up came as Israel dropped leaflets on southern Lebanon warning residents to immediately evacuate an area approximately 32km (20 miles) wide http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5202142.stm
Israel warning to Lebanese civilians: get out http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=nation_world&id=4370345
Racist Islamo Arab Terrorist Leader Warns Only ARABS to Evacuate; Media Who Condemned Similar Non-Racist Warnings From Israel Say Nothing http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/2006/08/racist_terroris.html
Israel calls on northern Gaza residents to evacuate http://english.people.com.cn/200512/29/eng20051229_231469.html
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http://www.israelnewsagency.com/palestinechildterrorismisrael88480521.html Israel Tears For Palestine Child http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0806/kay081006.php3?printer_friendly Jonathan Kay: How Israel fights --- What the media does NOT report, humane methods
Israeli Restraint Continues to Enrage Muslim World
AZCONSERVATIVE http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm
Israel's restraint in the face of Kassam rockets launched from Palestinian territory is said to be heightening tensions in the Middle East.
Two rockets slammed into Sderot, one of them striking a community center and another hitting a bus. Three people were injured. A separate attack hit the port city of Ashkelon. In total, 45 rockets have been launched from Gaza into Israel since the November 26 truce went into effect.
Israel's lack of retaliatory response has been widely decried as "provocative." 'The failure of the Jews to strike back reveals their evil scheming nature,' said Sheik Hassan Nasrallah of Hezbollah. "It's inhuman to adhere to a truce under such conditions. The evidence of the Jews' link to satanic powers couldn't be clearer. For the love of God they must be exterminated."
Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad called Israel�s actions 'sinister.' "Throughout recorded history the Jews have tried to lull the unwary by their nonviolent responses to pogroms and repression," Ahmadinejad warned. "Their diabolical cunning brought down the great Adolf Hitler. It will bring down the world if we are not careful."
The United Nations has promised to look into the matter. "We should not allow ourselves to be fooled by Jewish trickery," outgoing Secretary-General Kofi Annan advised. "If Jews are being attacked there must be a good reason. We will get to the bottom of this."
(Excerpt) Read more at http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm
IDF ordered not to change Gaza RESTRAINT policy (DESPITE TERROR ATTACK) Jerusalem Post, Israel - Despite Monday's suicide attack in Eilat, the government will maintain its policy of restraint in Gaza. (Janurary, 31, 2007)
Hamas's Human Shields
(Updated Mar 4, 2008)
...That same month, the IAF warned Muhammad Weil Baroud, responsible for firing Kassam rockets at Israel, to evacuate his home in Beit Lahiya in advance of an air strike. Instead, hundreds of locals, mostly women and children, were recruited to Baroud's house. Israel suspended the air strike, lest these human shields be harmed. In response to the incident, Hamas crowed: "We won. From now on we will form human chains around every house threatened with demolition."
The above episode illustrates the potential problems with Deputy Defense Minister Matan Vilna'i's proposal to bulldoze houses from which rockets are fired. The same goes for suggestions such as warning systems giving Gazan civilians time to get out. Even smoke bombs directed at precise coordinates to further warn civilians to depart - in advance of live fire and the destruction of launch sites - could be thwarted by human shields.
Principled despite its vilified reputation, Israel wrestles with a wrenching quandary callously imposed upon it. But Israel shouldn't be the only one to grapple with the ruthlessness of terrorists toward their human shields. Democracies the world over need to internalize what is taking place here, to pin blame where it is due, and to condemn Hamas for its heartlessness toward its own people.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1204546401057&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; aid; arabs; gaza; hamas; hezbollah; humaneisrael; humanitarian; humanshields; iaf; idf; iran; islam; israel; israelthegem; jenin; jews; mohammedanism; muslims; rop; wot; zionists
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posted on
09/02/2008 2:23:51 AM PDT
by
PRePublic
To: PRePublic
don’t you realize that the only thing that matters is the humiliation of being defeated? all that other stuff is of no consequence. ;)
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posted on
09/02/2008 12:58:39 PM PDT
by
APRPEH
(Fred, say it ain't so.......)
To: APRPEH
True, I once asked an Arabist, what is more important, a flag ("Palestine"'s cause... besides genocide of Jews of course) or life (Israel's cause)?
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posted on
09/02/2008 11:01:34 PM PDT
by
PRePublic
To: PRePublic
Israelis just don’t get it & don’t want to get it.
Half the Palestinians want that land & to drive out & kill the Israelis. The other half wants that land, to drive out & kill the Israelis, & then kill the rest of the Jews.
They cannot be bribed with schools, hospitals, & “freedom of the press”. Certainly not Palestinians & not even Israeli Arabs - by the way, it is extremely rare to hear any of them call themselves Israeli Arabs when speaking to non-Israelis. They prefer ‘48 Palestinians. They do not want others to identify them in any way with the hated Israelis.
A while ago an “Israeli” Arab was talking to my boyfriend & explained to him plainly that he is well aware that he lives better inside Israel than he would outside of it. But that he doesn’t care. He hates Israel & longs for the day that it is destroyed. Imagine how they feel in Gaza & the West Bank.
A friend of mine was talking to an Israeli Arab the other day, a girl, who mentioned the great shame she felt at having to put Israel as her location on YouTube. Pray for the day that Israel is gone & I can put Palestine, she said.
They are not a freak minority. They speak for most of the Palestinians; they just explain it better than the others can.
They get it. Israelis don’t. They will not be bought off & appeased with material things & comfort. Israel must fight them for the land & there is no other way out of this. Not for Palestinians.
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