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New FactCheck evidence reinforces my forgery claims
the Greater Evil ^ | 08/29/2008 | Polarik

Posted on 08/29/2008 5:37:16 PM PDT by Polarik

What do you do when you have to remove evidence that does not support your claims?

Easy. I provide other evidence that does support my claims...



TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; factckeck; forgery; obama

1 posted on 08/29/2008 5:37:17 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: Polarik

interesting

2 posted on 08/29/2008 5:43:18 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Polarik

I can’t view some of the pictures, nor do I know what your analysis means completely, but I encourage you in this endeavor. Keep up the good work.


3 posted on 08/29/2008 5:44:34 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Polarik; pissant; LucyT; Calpernia

CertifiGate keyword added, looks like it could be an interesting thread over here for your ping lists.


4 posted on 08/29/2008 5:46:20 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Please bear with me. I will reduce these photos. FactCheck made them this big, and I did not want anyone to say I manipulated them (except for the rotated gray-scale.


5 posted on 08/29/2008 5:47:34 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik

It does look like there is some distortion of the seal near the fold. Shouldn’t the seal have been placed on it BEFORE it was folded thus resulting in zero distortion? Not that I know anything about Hawaiian birth certificates but if Hussein isn’t what he claims then I’m all for someone bringing it to light.


6 posted on 08/29/2008 5:50:37 PM PDT by itsthejourney
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To: Polarik; Kevmo; pissant; SE Mom; et al

OK...try these on for size:


7 posted on 08/29/2008 5:53:39 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik

bttt


8 posted on 08/29/2008 5:53:56 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Kevmo; null and void; pissant; george76; Beckwith; David; PhilDragoo; FARS; Jeff Head; ...

Thanks, Kevmo.

Trying not to cause anyone a double ping.


9 posted on 08/29/2008 6:46:14 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Polarik

Don’t worry about me. I’m on a low-bandwidth wireless connection and I don’t need to see the pictures just yet.


10 posted on 08/29/2008 6:56:36 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: LucyT

Thanks, LucyT.


11 posted on 08/29/2008 6:58:35 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Polarik
CORRECTION:

I meant to say that the COLB was folded BEFORE the embossed Seal stamp was applied.

This caused a tear in the COLB which they taped up with Scotch tape before taking photos of the front side of the COLB.

It is the reason why all of the photos of the reverse side of the COLB only show the Seal below the tear.

It is also why all of the in-focus photos of the front side of the COLB show it with the folds at 90 degree angles, why the one photo of the expanded COLB is out of focus, and why the close-up of the lower fold on the front side was excessively lightened to hide the tear.

12 posted on 08/30/2008 6:37:54 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik
It does look like there is some distortion of the seal near the fold. Shouldn’t the seal have been placed on it BEFORE it was folded thus resulting in zero distortion? Not that I know anything about Hawaiian birth certificates but if Hussein isn’t what he claims then I’m all for someone bringing it to light.

Check my correction on Comment #12 below. I originally said that the Seal was placed on the COLB before it was folded, which is standard operating procedure for placing an embossed seal on a document.

What I wanted to say was that the Seal was applied AFTER it was folded, which required the person who applied the stamp to use excessive force so that the Seal would show up on the Seal.

The depth of the impression left on the paper is highly unusual given that the other 2007 COLBs and the 2008 COLB I looked at had a much lighter impression from the Seal.

This excessive pressure caused the COLB to tear where the fold meets the Seal, and is the It is the reason why all of the photos of the reverse side of the COLB only show the Seal below the tear.

It is also why all of the in-focus photos of the front side of the COLB show it with the folds at 90 degree angles, why the one photo of the expanded COLB is out of focus, and why the close-up of the lower fold on the front side was excessively lightened to hide the tear.

Also, for what it's worth, the rough texture of the paper on which the COLB was printed is not found on 2007-08 COLL=BS.

13 posted on 08/30/2008 6:53:17 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Polarik
TYPO alert

In my response above, I should have said that because of the fold, the embossed Seal was applied with excessive force to ensure that the Seal impression lookedwas evenly through the fold., I should have said said ...the Seal was applied AFTER it was folded, which required the use of excessive force so that the Seal would be clearly visible through the fold.

14 posted on 08/30/2008 7:18:58 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: LucyT

Thank you Lucy.


15 posted on 08/31/2008 5:22:07 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: Polarik

He needs to be nailed on this. There has got to be someone out there with the guts to hunt this story down in the MSM.


16 posted on 08/31/2008 6:49:51 PM PDT by pops88 (geek chick over 40)
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He needs to be nailed on this. There has got to be someone out there with the guts to hunt this story down in the MSM.

I agree...not someone, but someones..as in fellow FReepers bombing the MSM with th4e message.

17 posted on 08/31/2008 9:01:27 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: itsthejourney
It does look like there is some distortion of the seal near the fold. Shouldn’t the seal have been placed on it BEFORE it was folded thus resulting in zero distortion? Not that I know anything about Hawaiian birth certificates but if Hussein isn’t what he claims then I’m all for someone bringing it to light.

I've thought about this and I need to change my assertion about the Seal. I now believe that the photos of the reverse side were taken BEFORE the COLB was folded because all of photos taken of the front side show a fully folded COLB, and the entire Seal impression. Conversely, all of the photos taken of the back side show that the top of the Seal had been intentionally framed out of the picture right below where the lower fold would be seen. Thus, the photographer intentionally left out the entire fold line that should have been included in photos #7 and #8.

The fact that we have several photos of the entire front side of the COLB, but no photos of the entire reverse side. Instead of full shots, we got meticulously framed images.

One does not have to be a rocket scientist to recognize that FactCheck was deliberately suppressing information contained on the reverse side. Whether by framing a photo to leave off suspicious parts of them, or simply not showing any photos that would be embarassing, we want to know what do they want to hide? How about the absence of a second fold line? What else problematic could be on the back of the COLB?

What other photos is FactCheck not showing us? Did FactCheck plan on releasing these photos earlier, but panicked when their scanned image was being challenged from all sides?

FatchCheck chose to dismiss these challenges as "loopy" and part of a conspiracy, but some of the graphical anomalies, like the absence of a second fold line, the multiple font sizes used, and the odd pixel patterns between the letters, could not be so easily dismissed.

FactCheck, however, is still its own worst enemy, for presenting photos with all sorts of suspicious elements on them, such as deliberately overexposing some areas and underexposing others, having shadows that should not be there, and enhancing areas that do not need to be enhanced.

They also shot themselves in the foot with their August 26 update claiming that they had no idea about the "security paper" Hawaii uses on COLBs, after allegedly fondling them the week before.

18 posted on 09/01/2008 2:02:00 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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Polarik, I need to send you something. Please advise how to get info to you on the fact-check pics. Or, how do I attach photos to my post?


19 posted on 09/02/2008 4:04:36 PM PDT by swiftee fan
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To: swiftee fan
THey are leaning on 3rd party research (yours, unattributed at this point). They can’t afford to hire another independent expert?

Thanks for the exchange,

20 posted on 09/04/2008 5:25:17 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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