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David Frum's Self Denial
July 18, 2008 | Allan J. Lichtman

Posted on 07/17/2008 9:15:41 PM PDT by ajlicht

My new book White Protestant Nation: The Rise of the American Conservative Movement places conservatism within the big picture of modern American history. The book traces the origins of modern conservatism to the 1920s. It explains why conservativism triumphed in the late twentieth century and why it is has fallen into disarray under the leadership of President George W. Bush.

The review of my book in the New York Times by former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum shows that at least some diehard defenders of the Bush administration do not wish to enter into in a serious conversation about America’s conservative political tradition, but rather are engaged in sweeping self-denial at the expense of fairness, accuracy, and historical understanding.

In Frum’s view only patriotic anti-communist and the pristine free-market theories of University of Chicago economists should be included in the conservative pantheon. Certainly nothing belongs that even hints of a less than respectable and inclusive approach to sensitive issues such as race, gender, religion, or business-self interest. This response to Frum’s partisan-driven review is aimed at opening up a discussion about the rise (and likely fall) of conservativism based on the actual historical record.

My book shows that the modern right arose in the 1920s “out of a widespread concern that pluralistic, cosmopolitan forces threatened America’s national identity.” The “vanguards” of American conservatives in this era “were white and Protestant and they had to fight to retain a once uncontested domination of American life.” Support for private enterprise completed this social conservatism to forge a consensus in the 1920s centered on conserving “white Protestant values and private enterprise.” Most of the subsequent history of conservatism revolved around the reinforcing and contradictory features of these core values.

Frum begins his review not by responding to what is in the book, but by critiquing its alleged neglect of contributions to conservatism by Catholics as illustrated by a list of 10 familiar Catholic conservatives. Yet each of these figures rose to prominence in the 1940s or later (most of them much later), which validates my point that a movement launched primarily by white Protestants after World War I later reached “a partial and uneasy rapprochement with Catholics.” This rapprochement “reflected a crucial double-shift in American history: the decline of anti-Catholicism among white Protestants and the rise of a politically and theologically conservative Catholicism that put sexual morality, traditional gender roles, biblical truth, and the protection of Christianity above Church teachings on labor, the death penalty, and social welfare.” (p. 4) Thus, rather than changing the conservative consensus, conservative Catholics largely accommodated themselves to an ongoing tradition.

Rather than neglecting Catholic conservatives I devote a section of the book to the rise of conservative Catholicism at mid-century and extensively probe the contributions of individual Catholics. For example, the book includes 19 pages of references on Senator Joseph McCarthy, 33 pages on William F Buckley, Jr., and 14 pages on Phyllis Schlafly.

Frum claims that I trace the origins of the modern American right to the Ku Klux Klan and to “fascist groupings that troubled the peace of American society in the aftermath of World War I.” Yet historians know that significant fascist groups arose in America only after the advent of the Great Depression. And rather than tracing conservative origins to such groups I conclude that “They gained headlines and worried legislators and prosecutors but ultimately signified little within the larger conservative movement.” (p. 76)

The importance of the Klan of the 1920s, however, should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with the now voluminous new Klan literature. This work demonstrates the political importance of the 1920s Klan and its broad appeal to white Protestants that extended far beyond crude racism, anti-Semitism, and anti-Catholicism.

Frum also ignores the many other crucial influences that I specify as responsible for the “birth of the modern right,” including post World War I anti-communism, business conservativism, evangelical Protestantism, and conservative activism among women.

Frum claims that the book “hails women’s suffrage as progressive” and Prohibition and other conservative initiatives as reactionary. Yet the book avoids any attempt to label conservatism as reactionary and argues instead that “American conservative is a powerful and forward-looking as liberalism, although for conservatives the driving forces of American history are Christianity and private enterprise, not secular reasoning and social engineering.” Indeed, by tracing the origins of conservativism to the 1920s the book shows that the movement represented far more than a response to the rise of the modern liberal state in the 1930s. And rather than drawing a supposed progressive-reactionary dichotomy between suffrage and Prohibition as Frum asserts, the book argues instead that “the campaign for suffrage drew its vitality from the same ethnic, racial, and religious forces that backed Prohibition.” (p. 22)

Contrary to Frum’s unsupported claim, the book does not claim that all aspects of conservative philosophy and policy neatly mesh together. Rather, as with every movement, much of the history of conservatism revolves around challenges posed by contradictions from within. It is perfectly plausible for business men like the Du Pont brothers who founded the landmark Liberty League of the 1930s to also have opposed Prohibition, which “exposed the tension between moral reformers and a business community opposed to government control of industry.” That is why, the “dynastic Du Pont family … took the leader in organizing the Association Against the Prohibition Amendment.” (p. 14) But for Frum to say the “Liberty League was basically the old Association Against the Prohibition Amendment under a different name,” is a gross distortion of history. Unlike the Prohibition Association, the Liberty League “launched a broad crusade for conservative ideals that advanced the maturation of an interest-group politics not tied to a particular issue or constituency.” (p. 61)

Likewise, individual leaders like Democratic Governor Walter Pierce of Oregon (cited by Frum) struggled with similar contradictions, while others evolved in their thinking over time. For example, Illinois Congressman Samuel Pettingill and General Robert Wood, the Chair of Sears, Roebuck turned from backers of FDR’s New Deal to major conservative leaders. Many of the most prominent neo-conservatives began their political lives as dedicated Marxists.

Although Frum suggests that the book ignores the forward positions on race sometimes taken by Republicans in the early twentieth century, the work devotes considerable attention to the racism endemic within the Democratic Party of the era. It notes that until the 1940s, Republicans were much more likely to support civil rights measures than Democrats.

Despite the fact that about half of White Protestant Nation is devoted to business conservatives and their relationship to social conservatives, Frum’s review includes only two brief lines on business conservativism. He says that the book offers “scant reason” for its claim that conservatives have backed private enterprise, but not necessarily free enterprise. In fact, the book includes thousands of words explaining the numerous departures by business conservatives from free market principles. These include backing for protective tariffs; loans, subsidies, and special tax breaks for business, export guarantees, below market access to grazing and drilling on public lands, and special protective legislation. As the Executive Director of the staunchly conservative National Association of Manufacturers said in the 1940s, “businessmen, faced with the hard, cold facts of their immediate self-interest, will endorse ‘exceptions’ to any commonly-accepted definition of the function of competition.” (p. 137)

Frum also charges that the book neglects “change over time.” He fails to understand, however, that the history of political movements combines both stability and change over time. Without common features a movement would be incoherent historically; without change it would stagnate and die. Beyond explaining continuities from the 1920s to the present, the book analyzes major historical transformations within conservativism as well. Examples include the partial rapprochement with Catholics, the advent of neo-conservatives, and the split with libertarians. The book analyzes the shift from conservative support for balanced budgets to supply-side economics, from protectionism to free trade, from isolationism to aggressive interventionism abroad, from support for public education to the backing of private-school vouchers, etc.

Frum also suggests that the book needlessly dredges up irrelevant conservative figures and groups such as Elizabeth Dilling, the Liberty Lobby, and the Pioneer Fund. Yet Dilling was a pioneering woman anti-communist whose charges of communist influence within the Roosevelt administration (although tinged with an anti-Semitism that was hardly unusual at the time) had wide resonance on the right in the 1930s and for decades to come. She was a key leader of the enormous mothers’ movement against America’s involvement in World War II. The Liberty Lobby was the first important conservative group to set up shop on Capitol Hill. In the 1960s, its pamphlets on Lyndon Johnson’s unsavory past and the capitulation to the left by Republicans in Congress circulated in the many millions. The Lobby’s Liberty Letter surpassed all other political publications in circulation and its lurid conspiracy theories were echoed by many conservatives including Phyllis Schalfly in her historic work on Barry Goldwater, A Choice Not an Echo, which like Dillings’ books was self-published. The founder of the Pioneer Fund, Wickliffe Preston Draper, was the single largest financial contributor to the massive resistance movement that delayed school integration and other civil rights initiatives for a decade in the 1950s and early ‘60s. His Fund poured many millions of dollars into research that kept alive assertions of black inferiority in intelligence and ability. Some of this work also found its way into the blockbuster book, The Bell Curve by Richard Hernnstein and Charles Murray.

Frum additionally claims that White Protestant Nation fails to consider the broader political context for the triumph of conservatism in the late twentieth century, notably the failures of the Democrats. Yet the book analyzes in great detail the failures of Democratic liberals in the 1970s to respond to economic troubles and challenges abroad. It concludes that Democratic President Jimmy Carter “could not overcome the failings of his first term.” (p. 351) The book also devotes scores of pages to the development of new conservative infrastructure and political appeals in the 1970s. It studies the formation of organizations such as the Heritage Foundation, the Conservative Caucus, the National Conservative Political Action Committee, and the Moral Majority. It explores the revival of political activity among conservative business groups including new groups as the Business Roundtable. It explains how conservatives reformulated their social ideology in terms of “pro-family” policies and how they responded to new issues such as the Equal Rights Amendment and abortion rights.

Ironically, George W. Bush’s former speechwriter fails to address the epilogue of White Protestant Nation which explains how conservatism has fallen victim to internal contradictions during the Bush years. (pp. 436-456) The analysis shows that today’s conservatives cannot reconcile their historic opposition to social engineering with their backing for one of the most expensive and ambitious social engineering ventures in US history: the reconstruction of Iraq. They cannot square their backing for states' rights with their support for constitutional amendments on abortion and gay marriage and their opposition to vehicle emission standards set by California and other states. They cannot reconcile their advocacy of individual freedom with their support for warrantless wiretapping of U. S. citizens, stringent versions of the Patriot and Military Commissions Acts. They cannot reconcile their support for limited government, fiscal responsibility, and balanced budget with a president who has built the biggest, most expensive, and most intrusive government in U.S. history.

Perhaps if conservativism were in better shape today, David Frum would feel less compelled to force its history into an ill-fitting partisan box.


TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: bookreview; bush; cluelessidiot; conservatism; conservatives; davidfrum; frum; georgewbush; history; lichtman; nationalreview; republicans; troll; vikingkitties; zot

1 posted on 07/17/2008 9:15:41 PM PDT by ajlicht
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To: ajlicht

Welcome to FR.


2 posted on 07/17/2008 9:35:23 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

“we should talk to Iran” Right there I gave up on him. He’s just like the rest.


3 posted on 07/17/2008 9:43:12 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: ajlicht
The author creates his own definition of conservatism allowing him to focus on the worst elements within American society and attribute them to conservatism. David Frum was correct.

Fascism in this country can more appropriately be traced to President Wilson prior to the Twenty's, not the forties and Conservatives.

4 posted on 07/17/2008 10:15:32 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: ajlicht
Nice, but he forgets the fact that many folks on the old right, whether the eugenicist Madison Grant, the libertarian HL Mencken, or the conspiracist Robert Welch, were atheists/religious skeptics, rather than protestants.

The Roman Catholic hierarchy outside the US were largely hostile to American culture and Republican ideals, which is why Catholics as a whole did not figure early in the American right. It was the cold war that made Catholic intellectuals/activists a more prominent force in the American right, largely thanks to William F. Buckley.

I should also state that although of Polish and Italian ancestry, I feel I have more in common intellectually, if not culturally with the founding ideals of this country than any of the disgustingly statist ideals of my ancestral homelands. In other words, I MISS the WASP elite in many ways, although the congregationalist New England branch and their tradition of "collective guilt" was rather asinine.

5 posted on 07/17/2008 10:27:14 PM PDT by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC, not a "Will of the People" Mobocracy)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
The author is just another member of the UnAmerican Democrat Party being paid to “teach” our kids, and to pontificate on TV as an political “analyst”.

Never being introduced as a partisan of course.

6 posted on 07/17/2008 10:54:10 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: ajlicht; Jim Robinson; Sharon; pissant
Dear Professor:

I would like to add my voice of welcome to Pissant's. I hope you find Free Republic to be unique for its civility and intellectual honesty which puts it among the first rank of political sites, at least by Internet standards. This thanks to the selfless commitment of the proprietor in charge, Jim Robinson. So this is not a commercial site, it operates entirely on voluntary contributions, and so it is inappropriate to exploit it for personal commercial gain. I think it's perfectly proper for you to post a rebuttal to David Frum's review of your book but it would not be proper to disguise flacking with genuine give-and-take.

Since Free Republic is a personal and proprietary site, it is not an open forum but it is subject to the benevolent dictatorship of the proprietor who so far has exercised his dominion with commendable conservative wisdom.

I have long been urging FReepers to accept more liberal opinion so that we can bend our rich talents to "deconstruct" (to borrow a term from your side of the political spectrum) liberal bullshit. I have no doubt that we have the resources to take on the Liberals especially when they let their masks slip. We are, after all, the place that unmasked Dan Rather's fraudulent papers. So I'm not afraid of liberals on this forum.

But intellectual honesty requires that liberals at least openly identify themselves. It is regrettable that I had to go to google to uncover your liberal background when a fair reading of your vanity would lead the un-curious to assume that you shared our conservative principles.

I genuinely hope that you will engage in Free Republic freely with an open intellectual approach and not regard it as a whistle stop in the promotion of your book. I am reading Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg which appears to overlap your book in many areas. I would be very curious to read your review of Liberal Fascism .

We would welcome your participation and your posts outlining your reaction to liberal fascism would no doubt go a long way toward putting to rest questions about your real intentions in posting here in the citadel of conservative free speech.


7 posted on 07/17/2008 11:19:11 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: ajlicht; liberallarry; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator; All

I disagree with labelling this thread and poster as a ‘troll’ or ‘ZOT’ as someone as done in the keywords. I hope this thread will remain here and that anyone with relevant knowledge and interest will join the discussion.

The poster appears to be the historian and author Alan Lichtman who is writing about David Frum’s review of the book. It is not all that common to get a real-life author openly posting here with whom we can debate, and no matter how much we may disagree with this one I think it could be a valuable discussion.

Liberal Larry has long been a valuable contributer on this forum IMHO, which is why I pinged him on this post. I do not agree with either LL or Alan Lichtman on most issues but one can enjoy serious informed debate with such people, which we value here, I trust. They are not in the least like the hit-and-run DU types who merely trade insults or try to harm the forum.

I have not read the book so I cannot comment on the detailed issues, but the poster appears to be open about his liberal beliefs and commitments, which are not views I share. He seems to genuinely want to spur a discussion without hiding who he is or what he believes. Thus, I do not think it is right to regard him as a ‘troll’ or ‘ZOT’ who is trying to use subterfuge to sidetrack this forum.

I do not detect a hidden agenda, although obviously his book is hostile to what I regard as the serious and valuable conservative traditions in America. A lot of people here would agree with much of the diagnosis of the confusion and incoherence of recent years as “big govt” has been so warmly embraced by the Bush administration. I am not a Bush-basher but neither am I an unqualified admirer (due to the runaway spending and lack of key vetos, etc.).

Anyway, I just wanted to say that I don’t think this thread should be labelled as a “ZOT” thread from anything I have seen so far, and I encourage FReepers with a lot more knowledge than I have of pre-1980s conservative groups and ideas in the USA to join in the debate.


8 posted on 07/17/2008 11:34:01 PM PDT by Enchante (BILL AYERS: "Now THESE are the Obamas I knew! Thank you, New Yorker, for showing my real friends!")
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To: nathanbedford
Hey, I like your post and largely agree, as I was writing mine (below yours) and posted before I saw yours. However, I did not think Prof. Lichtman was less than upfront about his own beliefs, as his column/vanity is very critical of David Frum's review and very open about the liberalism of the author (Lichtman). I immediately saw what his political and academic commitments are, generally speaking, which is why I said I did not view this as a trollish post at all. He is obviously taking a very unsympathetic view of contemporary conservatisma and its supposed antecedents, but I did not see his posting of this thread as attempting to deceive (except insofar as we may rightly believe he gives far too much weight to minor and disreputable conservative figures in the distant past, etc.).

"But intellectual honesty requires that liberals at least openly identify themselves. It is regrettable that I had to go to google to uncover your liberal background when a fair reading of your vanity would lead the un-curious to assume that you shared our conservative principles."
9 posted on 07/17/2008 11:39:50 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante
I agree with your post except for the following:

My assertion that a fair reading of the author's rebuttal of Frum's review would lead the reader to conclude that the author is sympathetic to conservative values comes from the following:

In paragraph 4 he says the modern right arose in the 1920s in defense of "white Protestant ideas and private enterprise." He continues, "most of the subsequent history of conservatism revolved around the reinforcing and contradictory features of these core values."

In paragraphs 5 and 6 he describes the broadening of the party by the inclusion of Catholic conservatism.

In paragraph 7, he claims he did not trace modern conservatism to fascist groups and dismissed fascist groups as unimportant. In paragraph 8, he admits the importance of the clan to white Protestantism, then he makes the ambiguous remark `it's broad appeal to white Protestants extended far beyond crude racism, anti-Semitism, and anti-Catholicism" which left me with the impression that he was attempting to find some good qualities (more than anti-Catholicism for example-this coming in the context of his remarks about broadening the party to include Catholics) in some elements of the Ku Klux Klan. Whether this is plausible or not is another matter.

In paragraph 9 he says, "Frum also ignores the many other crucial influences that I specify as responsible for the “birth of the modern right,” including post World War I anti-communism, business conservativism, evangelical Protestantism, and conservative activism among women." I assume this to mean that there are benevolent influences which shaped the "modern right."

In paragraph 10 he asserts, "...the book avoids any attempt to label conservatism as reactionary and argues instead that “American conservative is a powerful and forward-looking as liberalism, although for conservatives the driving forces of American history are Christianity and private enterprise, not secular reasoning and social engineering.”

I could go on through paragraph after paragraph in which, for example, the author comments favorably on Republicans fights against racism and notes Democrats' contrary role. But I don't think it's necessary to reprise the whole rebuttal in order to make my point of that there is very little in here to tell me this is a liberal screed.

One must read between the lines to understand that Frum is accusing the author of an unfair liberal attack. The author defends himself against the charge not by saying that conservatism is guilty but by saying that conservatism is innocent. Just exactly where does the author stand? I believe that it is even more important for the author to state his position on Goldberg ' s, Liberal Fascism which , of course, defends conservatism against the charges implicit but, alas, not explicit in this piece.


10 posted on 07/18/2008 12:19:18 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Enchante

If your assessment of this man is correct then I absolutely support you. One can always learn something from serious debate. Would anyone want to ban Christopher Hitchens if he chose to post here?


11 posted on 07/18/2008 3:32:59 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: nathanbedford

Well done Lt. General.


12 posted on 07/18/2008 4:46:37 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Enchante
If he'd written nothing more than this

Yet the book avoids any attempt to label conservatism as reactionary and argues instead that “American conservativ[ism] is a powerful and forward-looking as liberalism, although for conservatives the driving forces of American history are Christianity and private enterprise, not secular reasoning and social engineering.”

I'd find him worthy of consideration. I've never seen it put this way and am in complete agreement.

13 posted on 07/18/2008 7:16:47 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: All
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/allan-lichtman/the-greatest-unknown-scan_b_107359.html

Lichtman is a moonbat who recently wrote at Huffington’s liberal blog that the Florida 2000 vote holds, “the greatest unknown scandal of our time”, lol.

And this gem from Lichtman about Conservatives/Republicans:

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/2008/05/bush-is-a-uniter-after-all.html

“I think people have seen the first shot of what we will see in the fall … Fear and race will be the Republicans’ attack strategy,” Lichtman added.

Of course there is much, much, more. Since when do we allow this trash to post on FR?

14 posted on 07/18/2008 8:24:03 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: roses of sharon

AH, I should have googled the guy - I was imagining he might be a serious historian but it turns out he is just another far-left moonbat with an academic title.

I still think it might be fun to debate him from time to time but I would not trust anything he says.


15 posted on 07/18/2008 10:22:14 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: ajlicht

Sure.. let’s talk to Iran.
When Ahmadinejad shows up here in September, we’ll keep him under lock and key for 400 plus days.
Aught to be fair.
Then we’ll chant “Death to Iran” with him on video.
We should treat him the way he treats and acts towards us.


16 posted on 07/19/2008 10:11:44 AM PDT by Darksheare (Why do they call it Salad Dressing when clothes aren't in any way involved?)
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To: ajlicht
Thank you very much for the many thoughtful replies to my analysis of David Frum's review of my book on the history of conservatism. As anyone can plainly see from the references in my post or from the book itself, the book hardly attributes modern conservatism to the worst impulses in American life. It rather argues for the importance, coherent, and forward-looking elements of conservatism, but also explains how contradictions within the tradition have come home to roost in the 21st century. Frum’s type of denial will not help conservatism resolve its problems any more than liberal denial helped liberals in the 1970s.

I did not lead with a discussion of my personal politics, because I believe the book can be judged on its own merits and would encourage everyone to read the book and draw one's own conclusions.

Also, my politics are not just orthodox liberal, but include a strong libertarian streak. One of my political slogans is that there is too much government interfering in our private lives.

17 posted on 07/19/2008 12:48:21 PM PDT by ajlicht
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To: ajlicht
So, will it be a landslide, now?
18 posted on 07/19/2008 2:02:46 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: ajlicht

It is difficult to discuss a response to a review to a book which I have not read. I hope to read it one of these days but I have a rather sizable pile of books to get to just now.


19 posted on 07/19/2008 7:13:09 PM PDT by Enchante
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