[Dog Gone]

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

It is embarrassing to watch FR do this.

It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is.

Even if he was born in Cuba or North Korea.

Carry on with the insanity. I sure can't stop it.

But it's stupid, it makes FR look stupid, and if that's fine with everyone, keep it up.

[An Old Man]

Adding to your reasons why this is embarrassing to FR.

Birth certificates are easily obtainable at ever registrar of vital statistics office in just about every county courthouse in the nation.

If anyone wants a certified copy of the Nobama certificate, all you have to do is ask the clerk in the county courthouse where he says he was born. Pay the clerks fee and be on your way.

If he was born abroad, the following applies.

1. A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents in wedlock acquires U.S. citizenship at birth, provided that one of the parents resided in the U.S. prior to the child's birth. No specific period of time for such residence is required.

2. A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent in wedlock acquires U.S. citizenship at birth, provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law.

Have a Happy 4th
An Old Man

[Manfred the Wonder Dawg]

The requirement for President is that of being a “native born citizen”. In 1961, the law was different than it is today. I don’t recall where I read it - if I find it I’ll come and post a link. If Hussein was born in Philippines he is not eligible to be President. Bottom line - the 2 issues are fraud and qualifications. The man is deceitful and unqualified. Wish the GOP had a better candidate.

[Lovebloggers]

Actually I want to know what his real name is and what race is noted as on his birth certificate.

Why he won’t release it is just silly.

[TheThinker]

What if he was adopted?

[HighlyOpinionated]

It is embarrassing to watch FR do this. It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is. Even if he was born in Cuba or North Korea. Carry on with the insanity. I sure can't stop it. But it's stupid, it makes FR look stupid, and if that's fine with everyone, keep it up.

I think that if a parent is a US Citizen and has a baby in another Country, the parent is to go to the Consulate in that Country and declare the child for dual citizenship and receive a "newborn passport" listing the child as a US Citizen born in Xxxxxx Country. What has occurred in too many cases is that this procedure is not followed and when said child wishes to obtain a US Passport as an adult, he or she is in for a rude awakening because he or she has not been declared a US Citizen by his or her parent.

Someone got the chapter and verse on that?

BTW, Anybody can SAY anything he wants, but that does not make what he says the truth and only turns him into a liar if what he says is discovered to be false. The onus is on the researcher, not the speaker.

[screaminsunshine]

I do not think it is stupid to question Obama on ANYTHING. Especially after finding out about The ReverendWright.

[6ppc]

It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is.

You are correct, but I do have some questions.

If the KOS published birth certificate is fake (as appears to be virtually certain at this point), why would the Obama campaign push it as a valid document? Why take the chance? Why not either keep quiet or publish a scan of the real document?

I believe exposing this as fake is largely being driven by the Clinton camp, hoping that Hillary can snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. We should be keeping our ammo dry until after the rat convention when it should be too late for the rats to abandon Obama's sinking ship.

[ThanhPhero]

Wrơng. According to the law, If Husein were born in a foreign country to a non citizen father, his mother would have had to have been a US resident for 5 years as an adult for the child to be a "natural born citizen."

[itsahoot]

If his mother was a US citizen, then he is.

Not true, there were rules at the time, and I doubt she met the legal requirements at the time.

[donmeaker]

it does make a difference. He was born when his mother didn’t have 5 years in the US after she was 16 years old.

Others have seen his birth cert, so it is a non-issue now.

[jeffo]

It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is.

Even if he was born in Cuba or North Korea

If you are sincere, check your facts for they are not true. The age of Barry's mother at the time matters greatly.

[Tallguy]

But it's stupid, it makes FR look stupid, and if that's fine with everyone, keep it up.

I'm wary of this whole thing too. Look at the date of the story -- July 3rd? It's not even a current article.

I'm thinking that even if Obama lost his US citizenship (thru adoption by Lolo Soetero) it's not going to be proven by Nov 4th. The courts are not going to step-in & possibly sway the election on an unproven allegation. We need to win the election on its merits.

[autumnraine]

What’s embarassing is how stupid you are and yet you call us stupid.

Why don’t you peruse a few BC threads and find out exactly how wrong you are.

Obama’s mother was only enough to transfer her citizenship to Obama if he was born outside the US.

But why bother you with the facts, I mean you know everything and we are all so stupid...

[autumnraine]

What’s embarassing is how stupid you are and yet you call us stupid.

Why don’t you peruse a few BC threads and find out exactly how wrong you are.

Obama’s mother was NOT only enough to transfer her citizenship to Obama if he was born outside the US.

But why bother you with the facts, I mean you know everything and we are all so stupid...

[jersey117]

I think it’s the fraud and cover-up that is the real crime.

[YellowRoseofTx]

It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is.

The question is not if he is a US citizen (which from all indication he is not that either), the question is if he is a NATURAL BORN citizen, big difference. Even if he was born in Hawaii, he is still not a NBC because his father was a British citizen from Kenya and by law that citizenship was conferred to the son. Not to even mention his adoption by the Indonesian step-father and Zero's Indonesian citizenship.

To be a Natural Born Citizen, one must be born to TWO U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.

[greeneyes]

Most of the remarks I have read acknowledge that obama is a citizen. The controversy revolves around whether or not he is a natural born citizen as stated in Article II section 1 of the constitution.

The state department’s foreign affairs manual referencing children who aquired US citizenship by birth abroad, states that it has “never been definitively determined” whether they are a natural born citizen for the purposes eligibility for president.

My research indicates that the phrase probably meant both parents are citizens and the child was born in the US. Under this meaning the birth certificate is a moot point, because his Kenyan/British father would disqualify him.

To me this is an interesting issue. The term “natural born citizen” has not been defined, yet it is a requirement for the president. I would like to see that issue settled and maybe Alan Keyes lawsuit will lead to that. Further I would like to see all states implement a process to ensure that people registering for a position are qualified.

I also found an interesting Supreme Court case which noted that there have been “doubts” about the citizenship of children born in the US whose parents are not citizens.

They noted then, that this issue was not the question before them, and hence it was not necessary to settle the issue at that time.

I am from Missouri. I say to obama show me all your records. The most “transparent” administration owes it to its citizens to release all his records, and fulfill his campaign promise.

My inquiring mind also wonders why he is so determined to hide his birth records(and other records)-just post it all on the web, let representatives of the opposition and the supporters all examine them and report back (all records not just birth certificate).

The people of America are entitled to know all about the people who run for president before the election. The transparency is long overdue-just MHO.

[manc]

sorry but you have to be American born, having parents who are American overseas does not qualify you

[FW190]

It is embarrassing to watch FR do this. It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is.

Even if he was born in Cuba or North Korea.

Carry on with the insanity. I sure can't stop it.

But it's stupid, it makes FR look stupid, and if that's fine with everyone, keep it up .

OK, Dan Rather it's time for your meds. Now spread your cheeks.....no NO. Your BUTT cheeks!

[Mr. K]

"It doesn't matter where Obama was born. If his mother was a US citizen, then he is."

WRONG~! At the time of his birth she was under age 18 and so unable to confer citizenship to him

My best friend at work was born in UK to american mother age 17 and english father- he could not get a US passport to go on a business trip with us.