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Swift Boat Veterans and POWs for Truth Formally Disband.
Right In A Left World ^ | June 20, 2008 | Lew Waters

Posted on 06/22/2008 12:57:52 AM PDT by DakotaRed

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1 posted on 06/22/2008 12:57:52 AM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: DakotaRed

God Bless all you Swiftees out there!


2 posted on 06/22/2008 1:08:54 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: DakotaRed

BTW, I wonder if McCain still thinks the Swiftees are “dishonest and dishonorable?”


3 posted on 06/22/2008 1:11:12 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: MarineBrat

I wonder if McCain has noticed that Kerry feels no need to return the favor and defend his fellow Senator, as McCain did Kerry?


4 posted on 06/22/2008 1:28:18 AM PDT by DakotaRed (Complacent Americans and Spineless RINO's have allowed this to happen.)
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To: MarineBrat
Our nation owes them a debt of gratitude for helping to make the uninformed public aware of John Kerry's traitorous activities during the the Vietnam war. I am 58 so I did not need to be reminded, but many Americans had their eyes opened by the Swifties. I am sorry to see them formally disband because I lived on their website during the Summer of 2004. I hope that the truth about Obama can be revealed before election day, or the hard work of the SBVFT will have served only to postpone the inevitable.
5 posted on 06/22/2008 1:30:36 AM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: MarineBrat

Indeed. Bless them all.


6 posted on 06/22/2008 1:30:49 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: DakotaRed

But did we ever see the discharge Kerry got in 1972? He shows the one Carter gave him in 1978, but he joined in 1966 for a 6 year stint. The discharge in 1972 is the one I’m interested in.


7 posted on 06/22/2008 1:42:18 AM PDT by chuckles
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That I know of, no other records have been forthcoming.

If you recall, in 1970 he had requested an early disharge and claimed to have received it.

So, the question remains, why does he display a discharge dated 1978?

T. Boone Pickens, in his one million wager, requested all records pertaining to Kerry’s Reserve Service from 1972 to 1978. Again, nothing produced that I ever heard of.


8 posted on 06/22/2008 1:48:35 AM PDT by DakotaRed (Complacent Americans and Spineless RINO's have allowed this to happen.)
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To: RedWhitetAndBlue

If substantiation is what you desire, may I suggest a copy of the book, “To Set The Record Straight” by Scott Sweet and Tim Zeigler.


10 posted on 06/22/2008 2:06:46 AM PDT by DakotaRed (Complacent Americans and Spineless RINO's have allowed this to happen.)
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I’ve read it. Who’s endorsed the book, other than partisans?

Not honest, intellectually independent conservatives with influence, but rather teeth-gnashing hacks with no actual power.

There’s a difference.

It’s about time we start setting the bar higher for ourselves.


11 posted on 06/22/2008 2:26:34 AM PDT by RedWhitetAndBlue
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To: RedWhitetAndBlue
On December 17, 20006, when you joined FR you wrote you wrote this:

…my focus is pretty narrow. Everything outside tuberculosis sets me square in the novice category. I'm

Well, unless you are joking, you definitely didn't learn anything, or you couldn't have come on with this trash:

Generalizations, unsubstantiations, exaggerations, hyperbolic paranoias.

We don’t need those swift boat hacks. They embarrass me.

They should embarrass you. Rice-paper evidence and opportunism, ignorance and vendetta brought together that band of jokers.

Good riddance.

12 posted on 06/22/2008 2:39:15 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (ure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave?—John Wayne)
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To: RedWhitetAndBlue

I suggest that you read “Unfit for Command” and pay particular attention to the many notes and references. When the overwhelming majority of officers that that man worked with says that he is unfit, then he is unfit.


13 posted on 06/22/2008 2:42:00 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: DakotaRed

I proudly donated several times to the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. God Bless them for their service to our country in and out of the military.


14 posted on 06/22/2008 2:45:31 AM PDT by upsdriver
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To: RedWhitetAndBlue
It’s about time we start setting the bar higher for ourselves.

It's a lead-pipe cinch that you have to do so.

And while you're at it, how about giving us some INDEPENDENT RELIABLE refutation of the things they brought out, and about Dirtbag Kerry that you find so distressing and embarrassing to your tender sensibilieies --like maybe his phony heroics, band-aid type wounds, and his treasonous meeting in Paris with the enemy while still in the Uniform of the United States, to name just a few. Are those the types of PROVEN you object to, or what>

15 posted on 06/22/2008 2:49:41 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (ure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave?—John Wayne)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I wasn’t joking. And that early post was me being modest in a new forum. TB may be my area of expertise, but it doesn’t mean I’m an idiot when it comes to other issues.

Here it is:

The Swifties put together a class political smear book. It had it’s efficacy in that it was influential enough to help keep Kerry from being elected. Just because it served its purpose and we scored a victory with the book doesn’t mean we should start confusing it with truth.

Let’s keep our wits about us for Lord’s sake.


16 posted on 06/22/2008 2:57:38 AM PDT by RedWhitetAndBlue
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I shouldn’t have to provide “independent reliable refutation.” If you’re going to stick by a claim—or claims—the burden of proof for those claims is on you.

Can you refute that I am omniscient? Can you refute that I am not 8 feet tall? No, you can’t. But it doesn’t matter. If I am going to make such claims, the burden of proof is on me. Same goes with the claims made by the Swifties. The burden of proof—the provision of “independent reliable” evidence—is on them, and is on you.

So what do you have that’s independent and reliable proof of their claims?

As I said before, the book served its purpose. It worked. But that doesn’t mean we should be buying into it.


17 posted on 06/22/2008 3:16:18 AM PDT by RedWhitetAndBlue
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To: RedWhitetAndBlue

“The Swifties put together a class political smear book.”

I meant to write “classic,” not “class.” Typed too fast...


18 posted on 06/22/2008 3:17:43 AM PDT by RedWhitetAndBlue
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To: DakotaRed; Jarhead2844; USMCWriter; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; ...

I feel like my flag should be at half mast.


19 posted on 06/22/2008 3:24:33 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: RedWhitetAndBlue

You know not what you speak about. I was there and Kerry is a lying POS...a position which you have assumed with your asinine posts.


20 posted on 06/22/2008 3:50:07 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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