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Gallup: It’s a Dead Heat (and we speculate about why)
No Quarter ^ | June 15, 2008

Posted on 06/15/2008 4:32:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Via Jeralyn at TalkLeft:

Barack Obama and John McCain are in a statistical dead heat according to the Daily Gallup tracking poll. Why? Seems to me to be the high number of undecideds combined with those who won’t vote for either.

As Karl Rove has been mentioning frequently on Fox News, during the same general pre-convention time period, Michael Dukakis enjoyed a 12-14% advantage over George W. Bush.

The key appears to be the large number of undecided voters or those who do not wish to vote for either candidate. Why is this so, and how can we take advantage of this disturbing polling that shows that the DNC has selected a weak candidate?

From Gallup: “[T]he structure of the race looks slightly different than at any other time this year as a result of the relatively high percentage of voters — 15% — not favoring either major-party candidate. This includes 7% of voters who say they are undecided and 8% who say they will not vote for either candidate. …”

May I assert that one reason for this large number of undecided voters is that Barack Obama has so forcibly seized control of the Democratic party, its DNC apparatus, and the convention? (There is also, of course, his and his campaign’s repugnant treatment of Hillary Clinton, and his failure to make any outreach to her supporters.)

Today, I looked up the history of the 1988 presidential race between Michael Dukakis and George W. Bush. This LEAPED OFF THE PAGE at me — the DELEGATES’ VOTES at the national convention:

1988 Democratic National Convention[8]
Michael Dukakis - 2,877 (70.09%)
Jesse Jackson - 1,219 (29.70%)
Richard H. Stallings - 3 (0.07%)
Joe Biden - 2 (0.05%)
Dick Gephardt - 2 (0.05%)
Lloyd Bentsen - 1 (0.02%)
Gary Hart - 1 (0.02%)

We fear — and the rumors are flying all over the Internet — that Howard Dean is seeking to eliminate a floor vote and to remove Hillary Clinton’s name from the ballot at the National Convention.

Whenever people are not allowed their VOTING RIGHTS under the rules of the Democratic national party, there will be bitter divisiveness.

As we see from the history of the Dukakis nomination, delegates for other candidates were permitted to vote freely.

This is an AHISTORICAL FIRST! It is fundamentally undemocratic. It goes against all that our nation stands for.

This is why — to put it very simply — we must find a way to wrest control of the Democratic party from the power grab by Barack Obama.

Obama’s moves — and the acquiesence of hood-ornament DNC Chair Howard Dean and Speaker Nancy Pelosi — must be FOUGHT.

By the way, writing letters to your superdelegates may be unproductive. Barack Obama has promised them huge sums of money (now, whether or not he can deliver that money is questionable).

Our best venue is to get this story into the media — at every opportunity. Be brave, don your best outfits, and speak out. Appear on television, call in to radio shows, call up your local newpapers and tell them that you’re part of a national movement to keep Hillary Clinton on the ballot at the convention in August, and write letters to the editor.

Our other best bet is to refuse to give the DNC any money, and to make it clear to the DNC that NO more donations will be forthcoming as long as this power-grab is allowed to continue.

I am posting this in a separate post, but take note of this: One of the primary PUMA spokespersons is Will Bower, a highly articulate representative for our views. He will be on MSNBC on Monday morning at 11:30 a.m. ET, and will be interviewed by one of Keith Olbermann’s handmaidens. But Bower is capable of getting his message out clearly despite her sure-to-be-biased line of questioning.

We can also work for the primary opponents of Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and other Obamabot politicians.

I.e., we can cause a big stink and make ourselves heard.

Be creative. Think of ways to get your voices heard by as many people as possible.

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Here is the image at the Gallup site, somewhat crunched to fit our writing area width — simply click on the image to view it at its full size or go to Gallup’s page: (AT LINK)


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; democrats; election; electionpresident; elections; gallup; mccain; obama; polls; tossup
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Last year, everyone thought there'd be a "civil war" within the GOP this election cycle: While many are unhappy with John McCain as the Republican nominee, it looks like "conventional wisdom" got the party wrong.
1 posted on 06/15/2008 4:32:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Strange. Only a ffew days ago, we were told Pbama was about 5-7 points ahead in the Gallup poll, Rasmussen poll, etc..


2 posted on 06/15/2008 4:36:51 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...what do you want, a big government socialist or a big government socialist?


3 posted on 06/15/2008 4:37:40 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[Michael Dukakis enjoyed a 12-14% advantage over George W. Bush.]

Um....I really don’t think so. Dubya ran against Algore (2000) and John F-in Skerry (2004).


4 posted on 06/15/2008 4:39:55 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It must be tough for Republicrats to choose between their candidates.
5 posted on 06/15/2008 4:42:02 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Tzimisce
Criminy, give it up!

If it's a choice between obambi and anyone, I'll vote for anyone. No matter what the choices are, obambi is the worst for the country. As much as I dislike the options, I will not destroy the country to make my ego feel good.

6 posted on 06/15/2008 4:44:21 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Tzimisce

A big government socialist is probably the only thing that can’t be said about Juan. He has consistently voted to cut spending and eliminate pork.

Now...immigration, ANWR, embryonic stem cells, global warming, etc.... that is where we have a problem with Juan.


7 posted on 06/15/2008 4:53:48 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper

If McCain came out for increased energy development in this country, including drilling, he could sew this election up.


8 posted on 06/15/2008 4:57:05 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: popdonnelly

I think you are right...but he is too stupid for that. I’ll vote for him anyways because ALL the alternatives are worse.


9 posted on 06/15/2008 4:58:47 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: All; Tzimisce; Man50D

Many have picked John McCain:

http://www.hcsfjm.com


10 posted on 06/15/2008 5:06:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I think he meant his father, George H. Bush.


11 posted on 06/15/2008 5:13:12 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If the Republican party wants to survive, it must return to its conservative values)
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To: big'ol_freeper
[Michael Dukakis enjoyed a 12-14% advantage over George W. Bush.]
Um....I really don’t think so. Dubya ran against Algore (2000) and John F-in Skerry (2004).”

Ummmm..he is talking about president Bush's dad, who run against Dukakis in 1988. It says 1988 right at the top of those figures. Dukakis was ahead by 17% at one time in the summer, and still got clobbered in November.

12 posted on 06/15/2008 5:29:09 PM PDT by KevinJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The key appears to be the large number of undecided voters or those who do not wish to vote for either candidate.

Send a message, third party ...

13 posted on 06/15/2008 5:35:46 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
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To: KevinJohnson

His father was not George W. Bush.


14 posted on 06/15/2008 5:38:36 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper

He kind of was. I think it was George H. W. Bush to be exact. But most people do know Bush 41 as George H. Bush.


15 posted on 06/15/2008 5:49:47 PM PDT by chargers fan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After all the hype, we will probably have low voter turnout.

Both candidates stink, and people are getting tired of them already.


16 posted on 06/15/2008 5:52:23 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t like McCain. I’m writing in my cats. One less vote for Obama, right?


17 posted on 06/15/2008 6:02:08 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There's a lot of people who will lie to pollsters, especially this time around. I'm talking about Democrats who will never vote for a black man, but never admit it.

The privacy of the voting booth is a terrible thing. :)

18 posted on 06/15/2008 6:08:18 PM PDT by Salman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

its over

Obama has lost.


19 posted on 06/15/2008 6:48:46 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: lonestar67

It sounds so arrogant to say so ... but
i agree.
Obama is toast.

If he cannot run ahead before the country has begun paying him any sort of
serious scruntiny
... and before the opponents have even begun campaigning ...
how can anyone think that he’ll be ahead in November?
Is he going to GAIN FURTHER SUPPORT from here on?


20 posted on 06/15/2008 7:21:52 PM PDT by Eleutherios
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