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John McCain Is A Liberal Gun Grabber
Via email | February 22, 2008 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:44:29 PM PST by TBP

If the Presidency of George W. Bush proved anything, it proved the hazard of electing phony Republican conservatives. At least one is able to clearly see a liberal for what he or she is when they have a "D" behind their name. But put an "R" behind the name and suddenly their liberal, Big-Government, anti-freedom agenda is barely recognized, which makes a liberal Republican much more dangerous than a liberal Democrat.

Let me say it straight out: a John McCain Presidency would be far worse than a Barack Obama Presidency. With a Democrat in the White House, conservatives and Christians suddenly find their principles and are able to offer resistance. Put a Republican in the Oval Office, however, and those same people become blind, deaf, and dumb to most any principle they profess.

Nowhere is McCain's chicanery and duplicity more jeopardous than in the area of the right to keep and bear arms. On issues relating to the Second Amendment, John McCain is a disaster! For example, the highly respected Gun Owners of America (GOA) rates McCain with a grade of F-. McCain's failing grade is well deserved.

John McCain sponsored an amendment to S. 1805 on March 2, 2004 that would outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows. According to GOA, the provision would effectively eliminate gun shows, because every member of an organization sponsoring a gun show could be imprisoned if the organization fails to notify each and every "person who attends the special firearms event of the requirements [under the Brady Law]."

John McCain also sponsored an Incumbent Protection provision to the so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" bill, which severely curtails the ability of outside groups (such as GOA) to communicate the actions of incumbent politicians to members and supporters prior to an election.

The GOA report of the 106th Congress reveals that out of 15 votes relating to the right to keep and bear arms, Senator John McCain voted favorably only 4 times. Put that into a percentage and McCain's pro-Second Amendment voting record is a pathetic 27%.

In addition, GOA warns that John McCain supported legislation that would force federal agents to increase efforts in arresting and convicting honest gun owners who may inadvertently violate one of the many federal anti-gun laws, which punish mere technicalities, such as gun possession.

For example, if John McCain's proposed legislation were to become law, a gun owner who travels with a gun through a school zone or who uses one of the family handguns to go target shooting with a 15-year old could be sent to prison. And a person who uses a gun for self-defense could be sent to prison for a mandatory minimum of five years.

But there is so much more to the McCain madness.

Former California State Senator H.L. "Bill" Richardson wrote this about John McCain, "He's [McCain's] proven his dislike for conservatives and would gut us at every opportunity.

"Why do I say that? Because of three decades of experience as a Republican California Senator and a fifty year activist in the conservative movement. I have first hand, in-their-face experience with elitist RINO's (Republican in Name Only) office holders. They are biblically ignorant, power hungry, status seeking egotists who have no difficulty aiding their liberal Democrat colleagues whenever their arms are politely twisted. The one thing they have in common with liberal Democrats is their dislike for all conservatives, especially those who are Bible-believing. McCain, as president, would stifle the voices of elected Republican leaders and try to legislate the conservative movement out of existence."

Senator Richardson went on to say that he would in no way vote for John McCain, if indeed McCain is the Republican nominee (which he obviously will be).

I wonder how many gun owners and other professing pro-freedom Americans have already fallen victim to McCain's phony conservative campaign? Do they not realize that they are giving a rope to the hangman? And that they--conservatives and gun owners--are the ones who McCain will send to the gallows? What is wrong with the American people these days? Have they not been betrayed enough by these phony conservative Republicans?

For example, President George W. Bush recently nominated Michael Sullivan to be Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Sullivan is one of the nation's most rabid anti-gunners. GOA's Larry Pratt describes Sullivan as being "as anti-gun as Ted Kennedy." Honest gun owners, lawful firearms dealers, and law-abiding gun show operators could have no worse enemy within the federal government than Michael Sullivan. We could expect no worse from Hillary Clinton. And a John McCain Presidency would doubtless give us more of the same.

Regarding the Second Amendment, the American people have no better friend than Ron Paul. He has a 20-year proven track record of fidelity to the right to keep and bear arms. The GOA rates Congressman Paul with a grade of A+. According to GOA Executive Director Larry Pratt, Ron Paul has been a leader in the fight to defend and restore the Second Amendment. He has sponsored legislation to repeal the following: the Brady law; the requirement to lock up your guns; the law permitting the U.S. to be part of the U.N (which, among other attacks on American freedoms, seeks to ban privately transferred firearms); participation in UNESCO; federal prohibitions on any pilot wishing to carry a handgun to and in his cockpit; and the so-called "assault weapons" ban (prior to its sunsetting in 2004).

Ron Paul has also sponsored legislation requiring states to treat the concealed carry permit of one state the same as they do that state's driver's license. Dr. Paul also opposes a national ID card, which would be a tool of government to identify gun ownership.

Gun owners (along with conservatives and Christians of all sorts) should be ashamed of themselves for allowing an angry, gun-grabbing liberal such as John McCain to become the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee, while rejecting the candidacy of one of America's most principled pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, pro-Constitution, and pro-freedom legislators of this generation: Congressman Ron Paul.

I say again, the last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. John McCain may have an "R" behind his name, but he is just another establishment liberal: one America cannot afford.


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To: TBP
The guy is correct about one thing that is for 100% sure. George W. Bush is a phony. He is a fraud. HE IS RESPONSIBLE for what is about to happen to the country. HE is responsible for Obama, Hillary or McCain going to be elected. Back in 2000, with a republican in the White House, a republican controlled congress, even the Main Stream Mafia were saying that the republicans could rule for 20 years or more. Hell, it barely lasted 4 years, then boom, Bush loses the congress, just like Bill Klinton lost the congress for the Marxist’s. George W. Bush’s failures have led to the current mess that we now face. HE is responsible for Obama. IF Obama is elected, and the damage this Marxist will do to our country, in my opinion falls right on George W. Bush’s shoulders. He did more by himself to damage and destroy conservatives than any dimocrat has done. George W. Bush is an enemy of conservatives. He is a failure as president. The war on terror cannot alone give him a passing grade. A few tax cuts do not help either. All his other big government spending, his failures on illegals and border controls, etc. all out weight his positives. Thanks George. Thanks for the mess you have left my Country to face. Please hurry back to Texas and I hope I never see your face again. I am simply sick of it.
41 posted on 02/22/2008 11:13:57 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Obama: NOT the next JFK. He is the NEXT STALIN!!!! Wake up America!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy
!!!!ITS ALL BUSHES FAULT!!!!!
42 posted on 02/22/2008 11:16:02 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain - Leadership in the face of a resurgent Russia)
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To: TBP

HL Richardson and also Bob Dornan were great representatives and it seems long ago, now. Hunter is in that mold, but it seems like a dying breed. You know the thing about McCain that really gets me? I voted for him in the primary of 2000, then later read several articles about how, strangely, he had a record of voting against veterans’ issues...there was more, later on: he fought like a wildcat to stop any investigation of the Vietnam government concerning POWs who still might have been alive in captivity in Hanoi and/or elsewhere in NV. Was rude and insulting to the families who had tried for so long to get an investigation moving again when there was evidence of this. There is voluminous material on this and other things and if you click on Viet Vets against John McCain you will realize he would be even more dangerous than the witch ;or Obomba and would knock down any opposition.


43 posted on 02/22/2008 11:17:21 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: End Times Crusader

No need to shout.

Thank you.


44 posted on 02/22/2008 11:18:28 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Uh, you do realize I’m being sarcastic, right? I thought the big, flashing, red all caps preceded and followed by exclamation points (not to mention the misspellings and improper punctuation) would be a dead give away.


45 posted on 02/22/2008 11:22:29 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain - Leadership in the face of a resurgent Russia)
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To: End Times Crusader

Kiss his butt all you want. The facts remains.


46 posted on 02/22/2008 11:22:58 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Obama: NOT the next JFK. He is the NEXT STALIN!!!! Wake up America!!!)
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To: End Times Crusader; RetiredArmy

Retired Army is right, exactly. And we have another year to go with this abortion of a “conservative Republican”


47 posted on 02/22/2008 11:23:08 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: luvadavi

I know one thing, Bush’s example of a conservative is not what mine is. He meets none of the conservative examples I have been taught and have learned.


48 posted on 02/22/2008 11:25:23 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Obama: NOT the next JFK. He is the NEXT STALIN!!!! Wake up America!!!)
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To: End Times Crusader

(oops)

Yes. I can see you’re advocating reason.

I have started to assume when I see shouting, it’s someone attacking McCain.

Obviously I should take a break, I’m actually a bit p*ssed off and the lack of even one clue, about what’s at stake in this election, by people I would expect more from.

Carry on.


49 posted on 02/22/2008 11:26:05 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If you mean FR, yes, 3 months. I’ll bet generally speaking, I’ve been around a lot longer than a lot of youse.


50 posted on 02/22/2008 11:27:38 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: luvadavi

Look.

We can elect Duncan Hunter next time around.

I wanted him too.

It’s too late now. Now, we need to stand up to Democrats, the way Reagan stood up to Mr. Gorbachev, in front of that wall.

Because that’s exactly what’s at stake.

Except now, we’re not fighting for Europe.

We’re fighting for America.


51 posted on 02/22/2008 11:31:21 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No. Nor the Repub. debates , nor FAUX news. Last year I quit the sat dish, left the TV unplugged, and bought a sat radio system. What about the Demorat debate? John Fn Kerry redux?


52 posted on 02/22/2008 11:31:24 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: luvadavi

More like:

“Si Se Puede!”

No, “Si Se Puede!”.

No, I’m more “Si Se Puede” than you are!

No! I am!

Me!

Me!


53 posted on 02/22/2008 11:33:01 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Good grief! You don’t really want Condi Rice for VP, do you? What exactly do you think she would add to the ticket?


54 posted on 02/22/2008 11:35:41 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: incindiary

Aw sh!t. His record deserves a barf alert.


55 posted on 02/22/2008 11:36:57 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: puroresu

Yes. I do.

Ms. Rice, was there when Mr. Reagan stood down, Mr. Gorbachev.

To Mr. Gorbachev’s astonishment.

Works for me...


56 posted on 02/22/2008 11:37:39 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Duncan Hunter? With McCain president, he*ll be in a re-education center with the rest of us. As for a wall, it’ll be the wall they’ll use to stand us up against to shoot us. You McCain defenders don’t realize that IF he’s elected, then our opposition to him, and that of the Reps in congress & the senate, will have little effect. With a demorat we can all fight. And you know, don’t you, that desperation and fear is an awful way to elect a president. I cannot vote for him, see my previous post. Not after what he did to those POW/MIA families. And all the rest—just as anti-American as Bush has been the last few years.


57 posted on 02/22/2008 11:41:46 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Senor, yo no habla Espanol/ I wait for Senor Juan McAmnesta to have the big Casa Blanca, then I can habla all I want to, si? Senor Juan Hernandez he will be Secretary of state.


58 posted on 02/22/2008 11:44:53 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: luvadavi

You’re a “seminar caller” FReeper, is that it? You joined just months ago, to oppose John McCain?

Who would you have readers vote for?

Oh wait. Let me guess:

You’re a “long time Republican, who’s voting for Obama”...


59 posted on 02/22/2008 11:52:00 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: TBP
John McCain sponsored an amendment to S. 1805 on March 2, 2004 that would outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows. According to GOA, the provision would effectively eliminate gun shows, because every member of an organization sponsoring a gun show could be imprisoned if the organization fails to notify each and every "person who attends the special firearms event of the requirements [under the Brady Law]."

While I am in no way supporting the idea, this is rank hyperbole. We have the exact same provisions on the state level in CA, and gun shows are doing fine. Flyers are posted and handed out when you buy tickets advising of the requirement that all sales be conducted through licensed dealers, who have booths set up on the premises for just that reason. If you find a gun you want to buy from a non-dealer you go to the booth and fill out the forms. Since there is a waiting period the dealer holds the gun for the required period, then you pick it up at the store. All private sales in CA are handled this way.

I hate the law, as it means an eventual de-facto gun registry. But claiming that it means the end of gun shows is false. Arguments against is should be made on the facts, not unsupported claims.

60 posted on 02/22/2008 11:57:00 PM PST by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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