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John McCain Is A Liberal Gun Grabber
Via email | February 22, 2008 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:44:29 PM PST by TBP

If the Presidency of George W. Bush proved anything, it proved the hazard of electing phony Republican conservatives. At least one is able to clearly see a liberal for what he or she is when they have a "D" behind their name. But put an "R" behind the name and suddenly their liberal, Big-Government, anti-freedom agenda is barely recognized, which makes a liberal Republican much more dangerous than a liberal Democrat.

Let me say it straight out: a John McCain Presidency would be far worse than a Barack Obama Presidency. With a Democrat in the White House, conservatives and Christians suddenly find their principles and are able to offer resistance. Put a Republican in the Oval Office, however, and those same people become blind, deaf, and dumb to most any principle they profess.

Nowhere is McCain's chicanery and duplicity more jeopardous than in the area of the right to keep and bear arms. On issues relating to the Second Amendment, John McCain is a disaster! For example, the highly respected Gun Owners of America (GOA) rates McCain with a grade of F-. McCain's failing grade is well deserved.

John McCain sponsored an amendment to S. 1805 on March 2, 2004 that would outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows. According to GOA, the provision would effectively eliminate gun shows, because every member of an organization sponsoring a gun show could be imprisoned if the organization fails to notify each and every "person who attends the special firearms event of the requirements [under the Brady Law]."

John McCain also sponsored an Incumbent Protection provision to the so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" bill, which severely curtails the ability of outside groups (such as GOA) to communicate the actions of incumbent politicians to members and supporters prior to an election.

The GOA report of the 106th Congress reveals that out of 15 votes relating to the right to keep and bear arms, Senator John McCain voted favorably only 4 times. Put that into a percentage and McCain's pro-Second Amendment voting record is a pathetic 27%.

In addition, GOA warns that John McCain supported legislation that would force federal agents to increase efforts in arresting and convicting honest gun owners who may inadvertently violate one of the many federal anti-gun laws, which punish mere technicalities, such as gun possession.

For example, if John McCain's proposed legislation were to become law, a gun owner who travels with a gun through a school zone or who uses one of the family handguns to go target shooting with a 15-year old could be sent to prison. And a person who uses a gun for self-defense could be sent to prison for a mandatory minimum of five years.

But there is so much more to the McCain madness.

Former California State Senator H.L. "Bill" Richardson wrote this about John McCain, "He's [McCain's] proven his dislike for conservatives and would gut us at every opportunity.

"Why do I say that? Because of three decades of experience as a Republican California Senator and a fifty year activist in the conservative movement. I have first hand, in-their-face experience with elitist RINO's (Republican in Name Only) office holders. They are biblically ignorant, power hungry, status seeking egotists who have no difficulty aiding their liberal Democrat colleagues whenever their arms are politely twisted. The one thing they have in common with liberal Democrats is their dislike for all conservatives, especially those who are Bible-believing. McCain, as president, would stifle the voices of elected Republican leaders and try to legislate the conservative movement out of existence."

Senator Richardson went on to say that he would in no way vote for John McCain, if indeed McCain is the Republican nominee (which he obviously will be).

I wonder how many gun owners and other professing pro-freedom Americans have already fallen victim to McCain's phony conservative campaign? Do they not realize that they are giving a rope to the hangman? And that they--conservatives and gun owners--are the ones who McCain will send to the gallows? What is wrong with the American people these days? Have they not been betrayed enough by these phony conservative Republicans?

For example, President George W. Bush recently nominated Michael Sullivan to be Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Sullivan is one of the nation's most rabid anti-gunners. GOA's Larry Pratt describes Sullivan as being "as anti-gun as Ted Kennedy." Honest gun owners, lawful firearms dealers, and law-abiding gun show operators could have no worse enemy within the federal government than Michael Sullivan. We could expect no worse from Hillary Clinton. And a John McCain Presidency would doubtless give us more of the same.

Regarding the Second Amendment, the American people have no better friend than Ron Paul. He has a 20-year proven track record of fidelity to the right to keep and bear arms. The GOA rates Congressman Paul with a grade of A+. According to GOA Executive Director Larry Pratt, Ron Paul has been a leader in the fight to defend and restore the Second Amendment. He has sponsored legislation to repeal the following: the Brady law; the requirement to lock up your guns; the law permitting the U.S. to be part of the U.N (which, among other attacks on American freedoms, seeks to ban privately transferred firearms); participation in UNESCO; federal prohibitions on any pilot wishing to carry a handgun to and in his cockpit; and the so-called "assault weapons" ban (prior to its sunsetting in 2004).

Ron Paul has also sponsored legislation requiring states to treat the concealed carry permit of one state the same as they do that state's driver's license. Dr. Paul also opposes a national ID card, which would be a tool of government to identify gun ownership.

Gun owners (along with conservatives and Christians of all sorts) should be ashamed of themselves for allowing an angry, gun-grabbing liberal such as John McCain to become the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee, while rejecting the candidacy of one of America's most principled pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, pro-Constitution, and pro-freedom legislators of this generation: Congressman Ron Paul.

I say again, the last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. John McCain may have an "R" behind his name, but he is just another establishment liberal: one America cannot afford.


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Another disturbing facet of McCain's record, and another way in which he will put the screws to conservatives if elected.
1 posted on 02/22/2008 9:44:32 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

I find it difficult to believe that a military man would be against the Second Amendment.


2 posted on 02/22/2008 9:47:56 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: TBP

As anyone who has follwed my postings can tell you, I am not a McBOT, and I will not vote for the man but lets n9ot exaggerate.

He has three areas where he is better than the alternative, that would be the WOT, government spending and the 2A.


3 posted on 02/22/2008 9:50:43 PM PST by Grunthor (John McCain - Leadership for the coming NAU)
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To: Cobra64

Taht’s his record, though.

Of course, being Mr. Stariahgt Talk, he’ll now claim otherwise.


4 posted on 02/22/2008 9:52:47 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

I for one am tired of this newfound and rather churlish tendency to scream “gun-grabber” at any slight deviation from “perfection”.

If McCain is a gun-grabber, what word do we have for Barack Obama, who actually does want to take people’s guns away from them.

It’s a miracle that ANY candidate can get the votes of conservatives, except for a few who are completely unelectable, which for some conservatives seems to be the true measure of being a “conservative”.


5 posted on 02/22/2008 9:56:55 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TBP

This nation is in deep do-do with the available trio of candidates for the POTUS. In the final analysis, vote for one, step in dogsh*t, vote for the other, step in catsh*t.


6 posted on 02/22/2008 9:58:07 PM PST by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: Cobra64
Why? Think of the Fed laws by Johnson, Regan and George H.W. Bush. I’m sure state and local laws have been passed by military vets. The FOP leadership is anti-gun and I assume are vets.
7 posted on 02/22/2008 9:59:40 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: endthematrix
Reagan, lol!
8 posted on 02/22/2008 10:01:00 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: TBP
Let me say it straight out: a John McCain Presidency would be far worse than a Barack Obama Presidency.

B-freaking-S. Baldwin's a loon. Just another of the zealots the Left will use to tar all of us with.

9 posted on 02/22/2008 10:25:06 PM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: TBP

McCain Derangement Sydrome ping.


10 posted on 02/22/2008 10:25:43 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: JennysCool

Baldwin’s argument, which does have some validity, is that if McCain is president, conservtive Republicans in Congress will roll over for any Big Government policy McCain comes up with, whereas if Obama or Hitlery is president, conservatives and Republicans will be opposing the same policies tooth and nail. McCain could actually get more done to advance Big Government than Obama/Clinton.


11 posted on 02/22/2008 10:30:44 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

News flash:

Republicans don’t control Congress.


12 posted on 02/22/2008 10:31:39 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: Cobra64
"I find it difficult to believe that a military man would be against the Second Amendment."

Take a look at his score from GOA.

13 posted on 02/22/2008 10:35:05 PM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVodI85NLMQ)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

After a couple of years of an Obama or Clinton presidency, they probably will.


14 posted on 02/22/2008 10:35:54 PM PST by TBP
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To: incindiary

What is Hillary’s score?

What is Obama’s score?

PERSPECTIVE PLEASE, people.


15 posted on 02/22/2008 10:36:11 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: Cobra64

He sucks on the 2A


16 posted on 02/22/2008 10:37:40 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: TBP

I’ve heard that freaking argument too many times. Here’s the corrolary: If either Hillary! or Obama! gets elected, we’re just plain dead.

I can stand four years of a weak Republican. Four, or maybe eight, years of a blooming Socialist is the end of the trail.


17 posted on 02/22/2008 10:38:42 PM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: TBP

On what, do you base that assertion??

The Chinese Communists lead by Mao Tse Tung first sandbagged the war against Japan(Iraq), then drove the Nationalists (the pro-freedom governing party of China at the time) onto tiny Formosa in 1949.

They’re still there.

So incidentally is Fidel Castro. After 49 years.

NEVER underestimate the danger, of communism.


18 posted on 02/22/2008 10:39:42 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: TBP

A terrible record he has. And as you point out, as a Republican President he would not receive much criticism from other Rs, nor Demorats since his leftist stance suits most of them just fine. He tampered with the lst amndmt w/ McCain-Feingold, and would work to dismantle the 2nd. The appointment of Sullivan is living, stinking proof that Jorge Bush is no conservative and has gone beyond the left if you willl, he only seeks to smash all borders and dissolve our sovereignty to merge us into One World. The writing has been on the wall for a long time and is painfully clear now. Soros, who hates our guts, is McAmnesty’s financier. You may as well vote for the other 2 rats.


19 posted on 02/22/2008 10:40:37 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: luvadavi

Welcome to FR.


20 posted on 02/22/2008 10:41:24 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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