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John McCain Is A Liberal Gun Grabber
Via email | February 22, 2008 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:44:29 PM PST by TBP

If the Presidency of George W. Bush proved anything, it proved the hazard of electing phony Republican conservatives. At least one is able to clearly see a liberal for what he or she is when they have a "D" behind their name. But put an "R" behind the name and suddenly their liberal, Big-Government, anti-freedom agenda is barely recognized, which makes a liberal Republican much more dangerous than a liberal Democrat.

Let me say it straight out: a John McCain Presidency would be far worse than a Barack Obama Presidency. With a Democrat in the White House, conservatives and Christians suddenly find their principles and are able to offer resistance. Put a Republican in the Oval Office, however, and those same people become blind, deaf, and dumb to most any principle they profess.

Nowhere is McCain's chicanery and duplicity more jeopardous than in the area of the right to keep and bear arms. On issues relating to the Second Amendment, John McCain is a disaster! For example, the highly respected Gun Owners of America (GOA) rates McCain with a grade of F-. McCain's failing grade is well deserved.

John McCain sponsored an amendment to S. 1805 on March 2, 2004 that would outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows. According to GOA, the provision would effectively eliminate gun shows, because every member of an organization sponsoring a gun show could be imprisoned if the organization fails to notify each and every "person who attends the special firearms event of the requirements [under the Brady Law]."

John McCain also sponsored an Incumbent Protection provision to the so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" bill, which severely curtails the ability of outside groups (such as GOA) to communicate the actions of incumbent politicians to members and supporters prior to an election.

The GOA report of the 106th Congress reveals that out of 15 votes relating to the right to keep and bear arms, Senator John McCain voted favorably only 4 times. Put that into a percentage and McCain's pro-Second Amendment voting record is a pathetic 27%.

In addition, GOA warns that John McCain supported legislation that would force federal agents to increase efforts in arresting and convicting honest gun owners who may inadvertently violate one of the many federal anti-gun laws, which punish mere technicalities, such as gun possession.

For example, if John McCain's proposed legislation were to become law, a gun owner who travels with a gun through a school zone or who uses one of the family handguns to go target shooting with a 15-year old could be sent to prison. And a person who uses a gun for self-defense could be sent to prison for a mandatory minimum of five years.

But there is so much more to the McCain madness.

Former California State Senator H.L. "Bill" Richardson wrote this about John McCain, "He's [McCain's] proven his dislike for conservatives and would gut us at every opportunity.

"Why do I say that? Because of three decades of experience as a Republican California Senator and a fifty year activist in the conservative movement. I have first hand, in-their-face experience with elitist RINO's (Republican in Name Only) office holders. They are biblically ignorant, power hungry, status seeking egotists who have no difficulty aiding their liberal Democrat colleagues whenever their arms are politely twisted. The one thing they have in common with liberal Democrats is their dislike for all conservatives, especially those who are Bible-believing. McCain, as president, would stifle the voices of elected Republican leaders and try to legislate the conservative movement out of existence."

Senator Richardson went on to say that he would in no way vote for John McCain, if indeed McCain is the Republican nominee (which he obviously will be).

I wonder how many gun owners and other professing pro-freedom Americans have already fallen victim to McCain's phony conservative campaign? Do they not realize that they are giving a rope to the hangman? And that they--conservatives and gun owners--are the ones who McCain will send to the gallows? What is wrong with the American people these days? Have they not been betrayed enough by these phony conservative Republicans?

For example, President George W. Bush recently nominated Michael Sullivan to be Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Sullivan is one of the nation's most rabid anti-gunners. GOA's Larry Pratt describes Sullivan as being "as anti-gun as Ted Kennedy." Honest gun owners, lawful firearms dealers, and law-abiding gun show operators could have no worse enemy within the federal government than Michael Sullivan. We could expect no worse from Hillary Clinton. And a John McCain Presidency would doubtless give us more of the same.

Regarding the Second Amendment, the American people have no better friend than Ron Paul. He has a 20-year proven track record of fidelity to the right to keep and bear arms. The GOA rates Congressman Paul with a grade of A+. According to GOA Executive Director Larry Pratt, Ron Paul has been a leader in the fight to defend and restore the Second Amendment. He has sponsored legislation to repeal the following: the Brady law; the requirement to lock up your guns; the law permitting the U.S. to be part of the U.N (which, among other attacks on American freedoms, seeks to ban privately transferred firearms); participation in UNESCO; federal prohibitions on any pilot wishing to carry a handgun to and in his cockpit; and the so-called "assault weapons" ban (prior to its sunsetting in 2004).

Ron Paul has also sponsored legislation requiring states to treat the concealed carry permit of one state the same as they do that state's driver's license. Dr. Paul also opposes a national ID card, which would be a tool of government to identify gun ownership.

Gun owners (along with conservatives and Christians of all sorts) should be ashamed of themselves for allowing an angry, gun-grabbing liberal such as John McCain to become the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee, while rejecting the candidacy of one of America's most principled pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, pro-Constitution, and pro-freedom legislators of this generation: Congressman Ron Paul.

I say again, the last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. John McCain may have an "R" behind his name, but he is just another establishment liberal: one America cannot afford.


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To: JennysCool
I can stand four years of a weak Republican. Four, or maybe eight, years of a blooming Socialist is the end of the trail.

It's not brain surgery.

21 posted on 02/22/2008 10:43:10 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
All 3 of them are liberal globalist traitors. Voting for him is giving a stamp of approval to the hijacking of the GOP by socialist-globalists.
22 posted on 02/22/2008 10:45:01 PM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVodI85NLMQ)
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To: incindiary

Completely wrong.

(Not) voting for McCain for whatever justifiable reason, hands all three branches of American government to socialists:

Executive.

Legislative.

Supreme Court.

Think about that!! Think about a liberal Supreme Court, a socialist president and democrats controlling Congress.

THINK. Please.

Communism can happen in America.

In fact, it’s pretty close.

STOP IT.


23 posted on 02/22/2008 10:49:30 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: Cobra64

“I find it difficult to believe that a military man would be against the Second Amendment”.


Much of the military officer corps has been indoctrinated to believe that the National Guard is the “militia”, the only militia. The Military Order of World Wars has even published a brochure to make this claim. My father was conservative, and a patriot, 42 years military service, but he bought in to this. He let me read the brochure, but when I voiced my opinion he snatched it away from me. I told him he was wrong, and we never spoke of it again.
Best you go talk with some career officers, you may be surprised by what some of them believe.


24 posted on 02/22/2008 10:55:47 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: TBP
Let me say it straight out: a John McCain Presidency would be far worse than a Barack Obama Presidency.

Obama is on record for handgun confiscation, I doubt that goes for McCain.

a little hyperbole goes a ways

25 posted on 02/22/2008 10:57:50 PM PST by wardaddy (The fact that a radical like Obama can get nominated here makes me ashamed for my nation.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
You still don't get it, do you? I'm tired of repeating myself, so I'll give you this link to a post of mine from last night. Please don't ignore it like you just did to my last post. And also, go to the link in my tagline, and watch the video, because you are being suckered by the very people you are asking others to support!
26 posted on 02/22/2008 10:58:22 PM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVodI85NLMQ)
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To: TBP

I tend to agree with this arguement. Should Obama get the nom the Clintons will let loose on him. He would not get anything done as pres and in 2010 Republicans coud regain both house and senate. But we need Rs with backbone.


27 posted on 02/22/2008 11:00:44 PM PST by rrrod
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To: TBP

How do you propose that we get our guns back after a Hillbama presidency with a democrat congress?


28 posted on 02/22/2008 11:01:40 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Thanks, I’ve been around awhile and it’s a great forum. You think he will drop his quest for an open border with Mexico (and therefore the whole world), join the NRA and fire the likes of Sullivan et al, nominate conservatives to the SC, protect our First Amndmt, quit screaming F@#&**g moron at every colleague who crosses him, send Juan Hernandez back to Mexico? In other words, reverse everything he has been and done, a leapard changing its spots? You want another RINO, on steroids? Wake up and face reality.


29 posted on 02/22/2008 11:02:17 PM PST by luvadavi
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To: incindiary

Thank you for your GOP-bashing post.

With all due respect for the time you took to write all that, I do (not) click on blind links... Unknown websites can contain malicious code, or any number of things.

How about you explain in plain English, your point.

Thanks ever so much. :)


30 posted on 02/22/2008 11:03:01 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: luvadavi

Did you listen to the Dem debate this week?


31 posted on 02/22/2008 11:05:14 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: TBP

This is getting insane. McCain voted against the brady bill and the assault weapons ban. To attack him on this front is stupid squared.


32 posted on 02/22/2008 11:05:16 PM PST by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: TBP
!!!!I'LL NEVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER VOTE FOR MCCANE!!!!!
33 posted on 02/22/2008 11:05:40 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain - Leadership in the face of a resurgent Russia)
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To: luvadavi

You’ve been around for a couple months.

James Carville? Is that you? :)


34 posted on 02/22/2008 11:06:15 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Oh my gosh. It wasn't a "blind link" it was a link to an FR post from last night! You can hold the mouse over the link and see that it's a link to a post on THIS site! And it wasn't "GOP-bashing" it was making the point that BOTH parties have been hijacked by globalist-socialists.
35 posted on 02/22/2008 11:06:18 PM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVodI85NLMQ)
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To: End Times Crusader

Welcome to FR.


36 posted on 02/22/2008 11:06:55 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: End Times Crusader
Glad to see you finally came to your senses.
37 posted on 02/22/2008 11:07:24 PM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVodI85NLMQ)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Not perspective, but context. Hillary and Obama were in the military?
38 posted on 02/22/2008 11:09:58 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: incindiary

Look.

It’s time to face facts.

I was a Duncan Hunter supporter. Probably before you were.

He flopped. I was stunned, depressed, outraged even, that such an obviously brilliant man could be so (equally obviously) undermined by an unholy tag-team of leftwing media, and China-first “conservatives”.

I wanted Bush impeached, for his support of amnesty.

That said, it’s time to fact facts.

If (either) democrat wins, America is screwed.

Bad.


39 posted on 02/22/2008 11:10:33 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: incindiary

You know, that was actually sort of funny the first dozen times you McCain haters used it.


40 posted on 02/22/2008 11:11:44 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain - Leadership in the face of a resurgent Russia)
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