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Why media conservatives hate John McCain
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| 1-30-08
| Florentius
Posted on 01/30/2008 2:22:39 PM PST by Antoninus
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My theory on what's going on with the conservative media, for what it's worth.
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posted on
01/30/2008 2:22:42 PM PST
by
Antoninus
To: Antoninus
What MeCain said to Tx Senator John Cornyn!
I for one will not vote for a President should you and your kind vote MeCain the nomination.
To: Antoninus
Probably because they can read and do not rely on the MSM for their news!
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posted on
01/30/2008 2:29:06 PM PST
by
Red_Devil 232
(VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
To: Antoninus
My reasons I don't trust him. Still has Rudman as a key advisor who architect the Souter nomination and probably advised McCain to attack evangelical Christians in 2000. McCain-Feingold, worst attack on the first Amendment ever. Gang of 14, which helped filibuster consservative court nominees. Amnesty for illegals. Against Bush's tax cuts. And my #1 reason, McCain is gonna sell the US interests out in the name of global warming.
Forget the conspiracies, McCain's dislike by conservatives is well earned.
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posted on
01/30/2008 2:29:38 PM PST
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: Antoninus
>> I don’t recall too many media conservatives holding a similar long-standing grudge against the President for his part in limiting their speech.
Really? You must not have spent much time on FR over the past seven years.
McCain-Feingold, NCLB, and Medicare pt D were the three colossal errors of GWB’s first term.
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posted on
01/30/2008 2:40:08 PM PST
by
oblomov
To: Antoninus
Otherwise, all this vitriol about how awful and liberal McCain is and how conservatives need to rally around an even bigger liberal like Mitt Romney makes no sense... The truth: the choices for presidential nominees are limited in 2008. Yes, Romney has flipped on issues, but he hasn't flopped back. His conversion could be sincere - so there's hope. He seems not to have a tin-ear and who can be persuaded to stay with conservatives agendas. At the very least, he probably will not actively support many of the liberal issues as president. McCain on the other hand has shown for decades his disdain toward conservatives. McCain has proven that he will consistently and actively support liberal issues on the national level. This explanation may clear up some of the confusion for this author.
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posted on
01/30/2008 2:53:01 PM PST
by
Red Steel
To: Antoninus
at least with McCain, you know what you're getting and we can gear up for a serious fight after he gets elected.Yep. He is just like Obama and Hitlery, all right.
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:03:32 PM PST
by
San Jacinto
(John McCain thinks algore in a scientific genius.)
To: Antoninus
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:19:39 PM PST
by
GoLightly
To: San Jacinto
The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides
But there was one subject that was off-limits, a subject the Arizona senator almost never brings up and has never been open about -- his long-time opposition to releasing documents and information about American prisoners of war in Vietnam and the missing in action who have still not been accounted for. Since McCain himself, a downed Navy pilot, was a prisoner in Hanoi for 5 1/2 years, his staunch resistance to laying open the POW/MIA records has baffled colleagues and others who have followed his career. Critics say his anti-disclosure campaign, in close cooperation with the Pentagon and the intelligence community, has been successful. Literally thousands of documents that would otherwise have been declassified long ago have been legislated into secrecy.
Also see:
Vietnam Veterans Against John
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posted on
01/30/2008 3:20:40 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
((Don't forget to say a prayer for our soldiers out there in harm's way. ))
To: Antoninus
Regardless of the motivations of the talking heads, I will support none of the above. My motivation is to promote conservatism. The lesser of two evils days passed me by long ago.
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posted on
01/30/2008 4:07:11 PM PST
by
pissant
(Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
To: Antoninus
We must not only have a free flow of goods and services, but also start working for a free flow of people.
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posted on
01/30/2008 4:13:15 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
To: Antoninus
There’s no conspiracy. McCain is nearly the spitting image of Hillary Clinton on issues. A conservative doesn’t vote to extend amnesty to illegals, suppress free speech and vote against tax cuts.
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posted on
01/30/2008 4:15:25 PM PST
by
mgc1122
To: Antoninus
>Come out and say it publicly and make it clear that you are not simply making a political case for “anyone but McCain” but are also lobbying to preserve your livelihood.<
So what if they’re trying to protect their livelihood?
By doing so, they are also fighting for free speech.
It won’t just stop at talk radio, you know.
Once they get rid of talk radio as an alternative to the mass brainwashing known as MSM they will come after people like us on sites like this.
The only information we get will be what we’re allowed to get, in carefully measured, thoroughly sanitized doses. It won’t be much different than what MSM gives us now, but we will have no other means of obtaining information.
Information is power. They are always holding back on us in order to render us powerless.
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posted on
01/30/2008 4:28:37 PM PST
by
Califreak
(Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus)
To: Antoninus
McCain has an R after his name only to give cover to the Democrats,he caucuses more with Ted Kennedy and Russ Fingold the two biggest liberals in the senate then with any conservatives. He's the spitting image of jump’en Jim Jeffords.Romney is a typical northeastern Rino,and the Huckster is a big nanny stater who wants to decide how you should live your life,all of them want "immigration reform".The Republicans in congress are no better since they want to increase spending and and taxes.I'm tired of the "were your only choice Mr.Conservative take it or leave it where else are you gonna go?"I'm gonna vote for a real conservative and if you're not then I've got a feeling that the 3rd party movement it's going to be a whole lot stronger!
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posted on
01/30/2008 6:38:07 PM PST
by
bonehead4freedom
(Where's the conservative candidate?)
To: Antoninus
I do agree that Hannity looked like a stupid high school cheerleader in his support of Guiliani. The rest is some kind of effort to minimize and marginalize conservatives or try to force us to vote for the “Democrat Nominee for Republican Presidential Candidate”.
To: oblomov
McCain-Feingold, NCLB, and Medicare pt D were the three colossal errors of GWBs first term.
But people would still vote for Bush, and the conservative media still generally support him, whereas they are ferociously against McCain.
There's a certian amount of cognitive dissonance there that must have a source that we're not consdering. This article proposes a source.
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posted on
01/31/2008 10:48:21 AM PST
by
Antoninus
("Make all the promises you have to." --Flip Romney)
To: Califreak
So what if theyre trying to protect their livelihood?
They have every right to do so. But they should be up-front about it and not pretend to do so for other reasons. And that, in effect, would make them just another lobbying group.
By doing so, they are also fighting for free speech.
Not exactly. They conservative media is as much about shaping perceptions as the liberal media. I'm glad they're out there because I think this is needed. But in this election cycle, where so-called conservative hosts were in the tank early and often for liberal losers like Rudy and Romney, it made me wonder if we really have much of a media presence at all that is truly conservative.
The only information we get will be what were allowed to get, in carefully measured, thoroughly sanitized doses.
Exactly--like what we get when Hugh Hewitt talks about any candidate other than Mitt Romney.
As I said above, the conservative media has shown itself to be more media than conservative in this election cycle. Their latest attempt to stampede their audiences into Romney's camp is simply disgraceful--and an insult to our intelligence.
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posted on
01/31/2008 10:55:34 AM PST
by
Antoninus
("Make all the promises you have to." --Flip Romney)
To: bonehead4freedom
I've got a feeling that the 3rd party movement it's going to be a whole lot stronger!
The scary thing is, Ron Paul might actually have a shot if it's Paul vs. Romney/McCain vs. Hillary in the general. And I might actually cast my vote for him....
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posted on
01/31/2008 10:57:22 AM PST
by
Antoninus
("Make all the promises you have to." --Flip Romney)
To: Emmett McCarthy
I do agree that Hannity looked like a stupid high school cheerleader in his support of Guiliani.
He and Hewitt have lost any cred they previously had with me. I find them both unlistenable anymore.
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posted on
01/31/2008 10:58:23 AM PST
by
Antoninus
("Make all the promises you have to." --Flip Romney)
To: Antoninus
>But in this election cycle, where so-called conservative hosts were in the tank early and often for liberal losers like Rudy and Romney, it made me wonder if we really have much of a media presence at all that is truly conservative.<
I still stand by my earlier statement, but am in total agreement with yours above. I was wondering the same thing.
How could they be conservative and push Rudy McRomneybee while Hunter and Thompson are in it?
Maybe they are pushing the “new conservatism” far more subtly than MSM. That would make them part of the problem.
But I am not relying on their statements when making decisions.
The only reason I am thinking of Mitt at this time is simply because I don’t want McCain to get the nomination. I don’t feel like I can go with Huckabee, because he may wind up with McCain. Ron Paul is right about a lot of things, but where he’s wrong, he’s really wrong!
So I feel kind of stuck with Mitt.
If it wasn’t so close, I would probably write in.
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posted on
01/31/2008 11:10:53 AM PST
by
Califreak
(Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus)
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