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Weekly Gardening Thread ----- Tossing Around Ideas
My "pea" brain | 1/24/08 | Gabz and GardenGirl

Posted on 01/24/2008 10:53:49 AM PST by Gabz

Howdy folks!!!

I originally planned to wait until tomorrow (Friday) to get this going, but it is such a damp, dreary, plain old yucky day here on Virginia's Eastern Shore I decided to do it now --dreaming of spring, so to speak!

One of the major topics that seemed to arise last week dealt with "zones" and how even people living in the same "zone" will have different growing conditions based upon location. Also because we are all so spread out the different zones do matter when it comes to planting times and plants.

GardenGirl and Diana in Wisconsin are among our resident experts, but I am sure they are not the only ones and so we would all like to hear from others both amateur and professional, food growers and flower gardeners, folks that deal with trees and shrubs, I hope you get the idea!

Exchanging ideas and getting help on garden problems weere among the reasons for starting this thread, and I would like to expand on that and ask you all to help me come up with ideas of specific topics we can delve into.

Let's have fun --- and wish for spring!!!!!!


TOPICS: Food; Gardening; Outdoors; Weather
KEYWORDS: compost; food; gardening; ideas; winterblahs; yard
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To: Red_Devil 232

Now is good. Usually the earlier in the fall/spring you can plant, the better bushes and shrubs do. They’ll have all winter/spring to get their roots going instead of just being thrwon out there and having good weather for a month or two and then the heat sets in.

Here, anyway. :) We don’t have to worry too much about really cold temps, altho the last week has been miserable—for us.

Many times, even if the fig does die back to the ground—have a little patience. Don’t dig it up just yet. Figs like really warm weather and often don’t show any signs of life until it really warms up.


101 posted on 01/25/2008 7:55:03 AM PST by gardengirl
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To: tubebender

I want to grow raspberries, but I have a LOT of roses (200+) and raspberry cane borers are death on roses.

Most of the cane borers that trouble roses, do the boring on the cut ends of a cane. You can identify the problem easily and cut out the cane below the borer. You can also seal cuts thus eliminating the problem entirely. The raspberry cane borers enter the cane through the sidewall low down. You don’t see the damage and they often kill the bush.

Do you have any experience with this pest? If I thought there was a viable control, I’d start with raspberries this spring.


102 posted on 01/25/2008 8:48:24 AM PST by Roses0508
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To: trisham

Thank you :) The vining zucchini was fun. I was afraid the vines were going to take over my yard.

I had problems with disease with some of my squash and melons too. I think my problem was cucumber beetles. The vining zucchini stayed healthy through most of the summer. However, there were a couple varieties of melons and squash I never was able to taste because the plant died too early. It’s frustrating, isn’t it? I think it’s worth it to give it another shot though.

This summer I’m going to try growing cucuzzi, which is an edible gourd, similar to zucchini. It is supposed to be more disease resistant. I will still give some squash and melons a try. I plan to grow Minnesota midget melons and butternut squash as well.

Cherry tomatoes are really resilient. I was still harvesting cherry tomatoes into November this year, which is pretty rare. I am hoping to grow some yellow pear toms this year, and maybe a couple other varieties. I bet Brandywine tomatoes will be delicious.


103 posted on 01/25/2008 12:27:09 PM PST by chickpundit
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To: chickpundit
Cherry tomatoes are amazing. We planted a few plants five years ago, and they have kept reseeding themselves ever since.

I think we're going to plant in whiskey barrels in the middle of the yard this coming season. We put in a screenhouse, so now I've got to plant around it. Barrels may be an easier way to manage weeding, fertilizing and watering.

We've had a problem in the past with squash borers. They're an ugly bug.

104 posted on 01/25/2008 12:33:25 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Yep. I’d use straw over hay because of the seed problems.


105 posted on 01/25/2008 4:22:11 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: tubebender
"It is wonderful to see a area where there are no 6 foot tall wooden stockade fences."

We are very blessed to have enough property to keep our privacy without blocking the view with fences. We do, of course, have to keep the pastures fenced and the outer perimeter too, mostly to have something to hang 'posted' signs on.

"When we had a summer place I found some cheap rusted 6” X 6” X 5’ concrete reinforcing wire and made tomato cages about 3 feet in diameter. They are a pain to store unless you have some extra space going to waste but you save time not tying up the “maters ..."

I have a roll of that same wire, but have stopped using it around my tomatoes for a couple of reasons. The matter of storing the cages you have already touched on. With the number of tomato plants that I planted in recent years (had 60-70 last year) making cages is a full time job. Lastly, and most importantly, the cages provided great perches for the birds to sit around, socialize and pretty much destroy all of the fruit that had any color whatsoever.

Since I have gone to using a single 7 ft. piece of rebar per plant, the bird problem has become minor ... but I do spend a couple of hours a week tying up the vines with pieces of old pantyhose. Much easier to pull up and store over the winter as well.

106 posted on 01/25/2008 6:19:04 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: gardengirl
Whar do you have that will eat white millet? As far as I can tell, even when we have birds, that’s waht they scratch out on the ground. The little white pea looking seeds, or are we talking about something different?

Here in Eureka our Winter ground feeders are Juncos, White crowned, Song, Fox, other Sparrows and Morning Doves. At the hanging feeders we have Chestnut backed Chickadee, Nut Hatches and a occasional House Finches.

White Millet is a grass seed about the size of Poppy Seed or a little bigger.

107 posted on 01/25/2008 6:24:49 PM PST by tubebender
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To: Quix

Gardening Ping.


108 posted on 01/25/2008 6:24:51 PM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: CIDKauf
Wow! It sounds as though you have a wonderful system going! How many row feet total do you plant in that manner? Do you have photos?

There is nothing like good tomatoes and green beans over the winter months. The fresh taste is a reminder of the summer months, and a real treat after putting in all of the work to can and freeze the products.

We are planning on planting a few acres each of butter beans and purple hull peas, as those are two of our favorite veggie staples. Lost of work shelling, blanching and freezing though.

109 posted on 01/25/2008 6:24:58 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: mountainbunny
Henry Field's Seed & Nursery is one of my favorite sources for seeds. I don't know how good this selection of gourds would seem to you, but I grew the birdhouse ones and they were very prolific.
110 posted on 01/25/2008 6:30:18 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: chickpundit
Sorry for the delay in responding ... I'm trying to catch up. Those are beautiful zucchini vines! Didn't you find that it makes the growing so much more enjoyable when you don't have to battle the weeds?

Have you ever prepared the stuffed and fried squash blossoms?

111 posted on 01/25/2008 6:34:54 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: gardengirl

I sure hope that you are feeling much better today! Sending good thoughts your way. ;-)


112 posted on 01/25/2008 6:42:04 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: gardengirl
Here is what Wackypedia has to say about Millet...

Millet

My first Wife has a question for you. She can no longer grow Flowering Sweet Peas here because the soil has some kind of virus (Mosaic) that attacks the plants. Are there any treatments short of a Nuclear device?

113 posted on 01/25/2008 6:45:44 PM PST by tubebender
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To: Red_Devil 232; gardengirl

RD, thanks very much for posting the pics of the figs with the descriptions. After GG mentioned the different varieties, I was wondering what I had been picking around here. Now I know and now I am also really wishing it was summer again. The only thing I don’t look forward to is the itching from dealing with the figs. ;(


114 posted on 01/25/2008 6:47:15 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Gabz

hey Gabz this is a great thread can you put me on a ping list if you have one thanks


115 posted on 01/25/2008 6:50:22 PM PST by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: ImaTexan

PING — Be sure to check post 39


116 posted on 01/25/2008 6:50:47 PM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: Gabz
"Gee thanks, you must have sent me your weather :)"

I was having coffee this morning (eyes still closed I think) and my husband comes in and says that the local freeway overpass is closed because of ice. I immediately said "Gabz must have sent it here". He looked confused and continued on his way. LOL.

117 posted on 01/25/2008 6:51:53 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Gabz

I have been an avid gardener for years and would love to me added to your ping list.


118 posted on 01/25/2008 6:54:26 PM PST by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: Red_Devil 232; gardengirl
The Celestial Fig Tree is a regional favorite of the Gulf Coast due to its excellent quality, high yields and cold tolerance. This variety has long been grown in areas that dip into the single digits from time to time.

I want I want I want...........now to figure out where to find........

119 posted on 01/25/2008 7:00:18 PM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Joya

I tried to plant a blueberry bush but alas it did not take.


120 posted on 01/25/2008 7:08:06 PM PST by NoCountryForLiberals
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