RINO CHART - Issues and Ratings Update

1/23/08 | dwar

[DWar]

“If Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter don't "make it" and it becomes necessary to vote while holding my nose and puking, I tried to devise a rational way to determine which RINO (Republican In Name Only) would make me the least ill.”

I began another thread with this statement. The following is a promised update to that thread posted on 1/15/08.
That thread is found HERE

In it I posted a chart that included:

• The issues important to most conservatives,
  
• Rating the issues by the most important to the less important and
  
• Rating the candidates on each issue from 0 to 10 (with 10 being the most conservative).

I’ve had a good deal of FReeper input that I’ve taken under advisement. After further research I’ve updated the list of issues, candidates’ ratings and reorganized the data a couple of different ways for perspective. You may find the evaluative basis for the matrix in the chart on the prior thread. I’ll not repost it here.

My biases are:

• I prefer the most conservative candidate and president I can get.
  
• The Republican will be the more conservative in the general election so I will vote Republican regardless of who it is.
  
• There are too many critical issues for me to walk away because I can’t get everything I want.
  
• I believe conservatism is better advanced by staying involved in the process even when my candidate is less conservative than I’d like.

Conservative= 10
Conservative tendencies= 8
Moderate or Unreliable=5
Liberal tendencies= 2
Liberal= 0
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Issue by Category	Giuliani	Huck	Hunter	McCain	Romney	Thompson
SECURITY & DEFENSE
- Illegal Immigration	2	5	10	2	8	10
- War in Iraq	10	10	10	10	10	10
- War on Terror	10	5	10	5	10	10
- Iran	10	5	10	10	10	10
- Border Fence	10	5	10	5	10	10
- ANWAR Drilling	5	10	10	0	10	10
- US Sovereignty (LOST)	5	10	10	5	5	8
- Military Strength	10	10	10	10	10	10
- Guantanamo	10	0	10	0	10	10
- Waterboarding	10	0	10	0	10	10
- Energy Indy	8	8	10	5	10	10
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SECURITY & DEFENSE TOTALS	90	68	110	52	103	108
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FISCAL ISSUES
- Business/infl/rec	10	5	10	5	10	10
- Lower Taxes	10	2	10	2	10	10
- Spending Cuts	8	5	10	10	8	10
- Healthcare- gov run	10	5	10	8	8	10
- Soc Sec	10	10	10	10	10	8
- Internet Neutrality	10	0	10	10	10	10
- Internet Tax	10	0	10	10	10	10
- Kyoto Treaty	10	8	10	0	10	10
- Global Warming	0	0	10	0	10	8
- Tax Reform	10	10	10	8	10	8
- Tort Reform	10	8	10	5	10	5
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FISCAL ISSUES TOTALS	98	53	110	68	106	99
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VALUES ISSUES
- SCOTUS appts	8	8	10	2	8	10
- Guns & 2nd Amend	0	10	10	2	5	10
- Pro-Life	0	10	10	5	5	8
- Gay Rights	0	10	10	5	8	8
- CFR & 1st Amend	0	0	10	0	10	0
- Crime	10	5	10	10	10	10
- Education	5	5	5	5	5	5
- Death Penalty	10	10	10	10	10	10
- School Vouchers	10	10	10	10	10	10
- Federalism	5	8	10	5	8	10
- Affirmative Action	5	8	10	5	8	2
- Property Rights	10	10	10	10	10	10
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VALUES ISSUES TOTALS	63	92	115	69	97	93
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.	Giuliani	Huck	Hunter	McCain	Romney	Thompson
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PERSONAL QUALITIES
- Stability of Personality	8	8	10	5	10	10
- Electablity	8	5	2	10	8	5
- Consistency	8	5	10	8	5	10
- Leadership	10	5	5	8	10	5
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PERSONAL QUALITIES TOTAL	34	23	27	31	33	30

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Conservative= 10
Conservative tendencies= 8
Moderate or Unreliable=5
Liberal tendencies= 2
Liberal= 0
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PERSONAL ISSUES	Giuliani	Huck	Hunter	McCain	Romney	Thompson
1- Stability of Personality	8	8	10	5	10	10
2- Electablity	8	5	2	10	8	5
3- Consistency	8	5	10	8	5	10
4- Leadership	10	5	5	8	10	5
PERSONAL ISSUES TOTAL	34	23	27	31	33	30
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POLITICAL ISSUES	.	.	.	.	.	.
BY PRIORITY	.	.	.	.	.	.
1- Illegal Immigration	2	5	10	2	8	10
2- War in Iraq	10	10	10	10	10	10
3- War on Terror	10	5	10	5	10	10
4- SCOTUS appts	8	8	10	2	8	10
5- Guns & 2nd Amend	0	10	10	2	5	10
6- Business/infl/rec	10	5	10	5	10	10
7- Lower Taxes	10	2	10	2	10	10
8- Iran	10	5	10	10	10	10
9- Pro-Life	0	10	10	5	5	8
10- Spending Cuts	8	5	10	10	8	10
.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Top 10 Total	68	65	100	53	84	98
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11- Healthcare- gov run	10	5	10	8	8	10
12- Soc Sec	10	10	10	10	10	8
13- Border Fence	10	5	10	5	10	10
14- Internet Neutrality	10	0	10	10	10	10
15- Internet Tax	10	0	10	10	10	10
16- Kyoto Treaty	10	8	10	0	10	10
17- Global Warming	0	0	10	0	10	8
18- Energy Indy	8	8	10	5	10	10
19- ANWAR Drilling	5	10	10	0	10	10
20- US Sovereignty (LOST)	5	10	10	5	5	8
.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Top 20 Total	146	121	200	106	177	192
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23- Military Strength	10	10	10	10	10	10
24- Guantanamo	10	0	10	0	10	10
25- Waterboarding	10	0	10	0	10	10
26- Tax Reform	10	10	10	8	10	8
27- Gay Rights	0	10	10	5	8	8
28- CFR & 1st Amend	0	0	10	0	10	0
29- Crime	10	5	10	10	10	10
30- Education	5	5	5	5	5	5
31- Death Penalty	10	10	10	10	10	10
32- Tort Reform	10	8	10	5	10	5
33- School Vouchers	10	10	10	10	10	10
34- Federalism	5	8	10	5	8	10
35- Affirmative Action	5	8	10	5	8	2
36- Property Rights	10	10	10	10	10	10
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POLITICAL ISSUSES TOTAL	267	215	335	189	306	300
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[Badeye]

The tide has turned in Romney’s favor.

[Revelation 911]

your biases “are” you excluded Paul

[Always Right]

I wondered why Keyes was excluded. He IS a conservative and still running, isn’t he?

I don't know, but I do know even if he still is running, I will get as many votes as Allen Keyes.

[bmwcyle]

Click here for a color, more simple chart

[maica]

Nice work!

Have you seen the website that offers a questionnaire for people to find out who is the candidate who best agrees with the reader? My answers concluded that Romney was my candiadate, and I had chosen him last summer as the best to lead our country, and take on her hillariness and the Clinton Machine before he can make it to the White House.

[bluebeak]

Is he even on the ballot in most states? Didn’t see him in the SC results? If he was a serious candidate (and not just trying to get some soapbox time), he would be on the ballot in most contests.

[Revelation 911]

oh, and while Im at it - Im quite confident I never requested to be on your ping list, so please dont spam me, and remove me at your earliest convenience

[jagusafr]

“I don’t like the idea that someone this flawed is the best we have left.”

Amen - it seems folks are trying to make a silk purse out of one of these sow’s ears, and so far I’m not seein’ it.

Colonel, USAFR

[thingumbob]

Saw this yesterday........

[aMorePerfectUnion]

DWar,
Please do not ping me to these ratings.

You ASSUME that when Mitt speaks, he actually
means what he says. He does not. That renders
your numerical rating system meaningless.

The guy will say anything to appear conservative,
even hiring a “conservative image shaping consultant”
on his staff.

All you are rating is what Mitt says to get elected.

best,
ampu

[gruna]

Thank you for posting that. Surely these Romney opponents will be able to see that Romney is a conservative by looking at that chart put out by the Associated Press. If they have any brains at all, they will know that the Associated Press obviously considers Romney and Thompson to be tied for most conservative, and that the Associated Press has no love for conservatism, and that they put this out thinking blue was good, and red was bad.

The best man left for conservatives, now that Thompson quit, is Romney. It’s right there in blue and red.

[GEC]

Thanks again for the chart, and thanks for the PING too!

[kidd]

This is a good basis for discussion. Of course different people will weight their issues differently, so the final total at the end has little meaning.

I only saw one glaring error: On global warming Romney rates a 5, at best. Not a 10. I’ll find a source if you’d like.

[gruna]

Thank you for your hard work in creating and revising your very interesting chart.

Check out the color coded chart created by someone based on an analysis done by the Associated Press recently. It was posted by bmwcycle in this thread, post #24.

[gruna]

I don’t know how he wouldn’t rate a 10, based on his very strong position as stated in the Associated Press analysis of the candidates. See post #24 in this thread for details.

[freekitty]

I agree and Romney does have some warts. I think he will be business as usual and nothing will change. I don’t believe he has any understanding of the military either.

[org.whodat]

Not bad, but any system that results in Romney being ahead

Bingo, the correction should start with dropping Willard to zero in the guns and 2nd support.

[Domandred]

No way in hell would I support Paul because of the least loony things he has said. Don’t even get me started on the most loony.

That being said I would like to see Ron Paul in the list just for comparison sake.

[Domandred]

My choices WERE Thompson, Hunter, Romney

Just out of curiosity I took my top-3 non-negotiable wants (Illegal Immigration, WOT, and 2nd Amendment). I took out your ratings and just calculated them. For WOT I included War on Terror, Iraq, and Iran as I think those are all tied together.

Came up with in order (fourth also showing):

Thompson 50
Hunter 50
Romney 43
Huck 35

Now since I have 3 issues and you had 5 I compiled WOT, Iraq, and Iran into one issue and averaged the scores. Because of this average a candidate (Huck) got rounded up, and one got rounded down (McCain).

Thompson 30
Hunter 30
Romney 23
Huck 22

So based on your scoring compared to my top-3 and gut picking you’re spot on.

And no I am still not voting for the Huckster even though on average top-3 he is only one point behind Romney.

[Domandred]

Bingo, the correction should start with dropping Willard to zero in the guns and 2nd support.

Romney is better than Rudy with guns. Rudy deserves a big fat zero there. Only way Romney deserves a 0 is if Rudy is put negative on guns for fair comparison sake.

Not entirely sure about McCain though. If Romney is in fact better then McCain then Romney deserves the 5. If they are the same then he deserves a 2 just like McCain. McCain turns me off on enough I'm not even gonna bother double checking his 2nd Amendment stance.