Posted on 01/23/2008 2:45:30 PM PST by DWar
If Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter don't "make it" and it becomes necessary to vote while holding my nose and puking, I tried to devise a rational way to determine which RINO (Republican In Name Only) would make me the least ill.
I began another thread with this statement. The following is a promised update to that thread posted on 1/15/08.
That thread is found HERE
In it I posted a chart that included:
Ive had a good deal of FReeper input that Ive taken under advisement. After further research Ive updated the list of issues, candidates ratings and reorganized the data a couple of different ways for perspective. You may find the evaluative basis for the matrix in the chart on the prior thread. Ill not repost it here.
My biases are:
Conservative= 10 | ||||||
Conservative tendencies= 8 | ||||||
Moderate or Unreliable=5 | ||||||
Liberal tendencies= 2 | ||||||
Liberal= 0 | ||||||
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Issue by Category | Giuliani | Huck | Hunter | McCain | Romney | Thompson |
SECURITY & DEFENSE | ||||||
- Illegal Immigration | 2 | 5 | 10 | 2 | 8 | 10 |
- War in Iraq | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
- War on Terror | 10 | 5 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 |
- Iran | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
- Border Fence | 10 | 5 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 |
- ANWAR Drilling | 5 | 10 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 |
- US Sovereignty (LOST) | 5 | 10 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 8 |
- Military Strength | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
- Guantanamo | 10 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 |
- Waterboarding | 10 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 |
- Energy Indy | 8 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 |
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SECURITY & DEFENSE TOTALS | 90 | 68 | 110 | 52 | 103 | 108 |
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FISCAL ISSUES | ||||||
- Business/infl/rec | 10 | 5 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 |
- Lower Taxes | 10 | 2 | 10 | 2 | 10 | 10 |
- Spending Cuts | 8 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 10 |
- Healthcare- gov run | 10 | 5 | 10 | 8 | 8 | 10 |
- Soc Sec | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 8 |
- Internet Neutrality | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
- Internet Tax | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
- Kyoto Treaty | 10 | 8 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 |
- Global Warming | 0 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 8 |
- Tax Reform | 10 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 10 | 8 |
- Tort Reform | 10 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 5 |
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FISCAL ISSUES TOTALS | 98 | 53 | 110 | 68 | 106 | 99 |
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VALUES ISSUES | ||||||
- SCOTUS appts | 8 | 8 | 10 | 2 | 8 | 10 |
- Guns & 2nd Amend | 0 | 10 | 10 | 2 | 5 | 10 |
- Pro-Life | 0 | 10 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 8 |
- Gay Rights | 0 | 10 | 10 | 5 | 8 | 8 |
- CFR & 1st Amend | 0 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 0 |
- Crime | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
- Education | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 |
- Death Penalty | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
- School Vouchers | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
- Federalism | 5 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 8 | 10 |
- Affirmative Action | 5 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 8 | 2 |
- Property Rights | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
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VALUES ISSUES TOTALS | 63 | 92 | 115 | 69 | 97 | 93 |
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. | Giuliani | Huck | Hunter | McCain | Romney | Thompson |
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PERSONAL QUALITIES | ||||||
- Stability of Personality | 8 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 |
- Electablity | 8 | 5 | 2 | 10 | 8 | 5 |
- Consistency | 8 | 5 | 10 | 8 | 5 | 10 |
- Leadership | 10 | 5 | 5 | 8 | 10 | 5 |
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PERSONAL QUALITIES TOTAL | 34 | 23 | 27 | 31 | 33 | 30 |
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Conservative= 10 | ||||||
Conservative tendencies= 8 | ||||||
Moderate or Unreliable=5 | ||||||
Liberal tendencies= 2 | ||||||
Liberal= 0
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PERSONAL ISSUES | Giuliani | Huck | Hunter | McCain | Romney | Thompson |
1- Stability of Personality | 8 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 |
2- Electablity | 8 | 5 | 2 | 10 | 8 | 5 |
3- Consistency | 8 | 5 | 10 | 8 | 5 | 10 |
4- Leadership | 10 | 5 | 5 | 8 | 10 | 5 |
PERSONAL ISSUES TOTAL | 34 | 23 | 27 | 31 | 33 | 30 |
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POLITICAL ISSUES | . | . | . | . | . | . |
BY PRIORITY | . | . | . | . | . | . |
1- Illegal Immigration | 2 | 5 | 10 | 2 | 8 | 10 |
2- War in Iraq | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
3- War on Terror | 10 | 5 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 |
4- SCOTUS appts | 8 | 8 | 10 | 2 | 8 | 10 |
5- Guns & 2nd Amend | 0 | 10 | 10 | 2 | 5 | 10 |
6- Business/infl/rec | 10 | 5 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 |
7- Lower Taxes | 10 | 2 | 10 | 2 | 10 | 10 |
8- Iran | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
9- Pro-Life | 0 | 10 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 8 |
10- Spending Cuts | 8 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 10 |
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Top 10 Total | 68 | 65 | 100 | 53 | 84 | 98 |
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11- Healthcare- gov run | 10 | 5 | 10 | 8 | 8 | 10 |
12- Soc Sec | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 8 |
13- Border Fence | 10 | 5 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 |
14- Internet Neutrality | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
15- Internet Tax | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
16- Kyoto Treaty | 10 | 8 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 |
17- Global Warming | 0 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 8 |
18- Energy Indy | 8 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 |
19- ANWAR Drilling | 5 | 10 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 |
20- US Sovereignty (LOST) | 5 | 10 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 8 |
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Top 20 Total | 146 | 121 | 200 | 106 | 177 | 192 |
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23- Military Strength | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
24- Guantanamo | 10 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 |
25- Waterboarding | 10 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 10 |
26- Tax Reform | 10 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 10 | 8 |
27- Gay Rights | 0 | 10 | 10 | 5 | 8 | 8 |
28- CFR & 1st Amend | 0 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 0 |
29- Crime | 10 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
30- Education | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 |
31- Death Penalty | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
32- Tort Reform | 10 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 10 | 5 |
33- School Vouchers | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
34- Federalism | 5 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 8 | 10 |
35- Affirmative Action | 5 | 8 | 10 | 5 | 8 | 2 |
36- Property Rights | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
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POLITICAL ISSUSES TOTAL | 267 | 215 | 335 | 189 | 306 | 300 |
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I heard that about EVERY remaining candidate. To compensate for that, I rated a candidate down 2 to 5 points when it appeared that he had a history of inconsistency on an issue. In addition I included a consistency rating under Personal Qualities.
Lastly, I have been told by various people that it was obvious whom I supported based on the outcome of the research. This usually by a FReeper who already strongly supported a candidate that came out less conservative on the chart. I will support any of these guys against a possible President Hillary. I did this research in an effort to find out who was really conservative on the issues that mattered to me most.
All I care about is nominating the candidate that has the best combination of conservativism and electability. I didn't do it to prove anything to you. I did the research for myself and created the chart for myself to clarify the situation for myself. If it's helpful to you great. If not, OK, move on.
It looks like your research is based on the premise that Duncan Hunter is perfect, or very nearly so.
You go to war with the Army you have. We have Romney.
Focus on erasing McCain’s fund raising and then holding everything Bush won, and stealing Michigan.
“That candidate is a liar,
That candidate changed his position and can’t be trusted,
That candidate will say anything to get elected.”
How did Myth romney still manage to make it to the top half of your list? Just wondering.
In any case, now that Thompson and Hunter have dropped out of the race, conservatives don’t have much choice between Myth/Juan McCain/Rooty/Huckster. Of these, Myth seems to be have a better chances in winning the general compared to the other three.
Not bad, but any system that results in Romney being ahead of Fred in the Conservative department is clearly flawed.
I wondered why Keyes was excluded. He IS a conservative and still running, isn’t he?
Huckabee, 10/10 on Iraq. First thing. Makes me wonder about the general validity.
In the top 10 issues Fred wins 98 to 84.
In the top 20 issues Fred wins 192 to 177.
I the last 14 issues Fred comes up short mostly because of their positions on tort reform and affirmitive action.
On the most important issues Fred is more conservative and more consistent.
Huck is no the record as supporting the effort in Iraq to victory. Its in the War on terror that he is weaker. Specifically he wants to close Guantanamo and cease waterboarding.
Yes & Yes
Revisionism...
revisionism(rĭ-vĭzh'ə-nĭz'əm)
n.
Advocacy of the revision of an accepted, usually long-standing view, theory, or doctrine, especially a revision of historical events and movements.
Conservatism is dead. Long live conservatism.
Make way for the new heir apparent.
I wish someone would put some Paul numbers up on those issues. I’d like to see where he stands on them.
However, playing fast and loose with a candidate’s history to make him appear more conservative and therefore more palatable to conservatives is revisionism and that’s something that Dems do. It’s beneath us.
Ping!
PING!
If Mitt holds to these positions, he can provide a clear choice over HildeBill. No surprise that McQueeg is bringing up the rear.
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